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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

BillyBlanks posted:

May I suggest a few more ground rules?

1) bonerconfessor has to take his/her meds
2) calling other ppl nazi should get you laughed at mercilessly, as well as suggesting there is widespread white supremacy in the US
3) stop probating BillyBlanks

No to all of these.

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Visidan posted:

Google should probably pay someone 50k a year to remove channels like these instead of losing billions in ad revenue but what do I know.

People upload 65 years worth of video to YouTube every single day.

There is literally no way to have humans check every video that gets uploaded.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

mojo1701a posted:

Why do these alt-right YouTube personalities never take care of themselves? They all look like the same weird nerds that have to be told to take a shower before they go to a D&D session.

If they were normal hygienic people who had friends and hobbies, they wouldn't be alt-right YouTube personalities.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Midig posted:

Besides, do theologians have any real say in politics? Why get into all the pedantry over a being that does not exist if you can more easily debunk some idiots who's beliefs might actually affect policy.

Are you loving kidding me with this?

Look at the number of abortion clinics closing in red states and come back here and claim that theologians don't have any say in politics.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Carecat posted:

What's some entertaining critical videos apart from Hbomberguy?

I like Joseph Anderson, he's done a lot of really long in depth videos and has a great knack for pointing out flaws in narratives and potential solutions.

Here's a video he did on The Witness, for an example of his style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZokQov_aH0

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Midig posted:

Once I found out that the fuss started with a rant from an angry ex-boyfriend claiming that his previous GF used her vagina to promote her indie game I pretty much tuned out.

Heaven forbid you try to become less ignorant about a topic you seem to care about.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Midig posted:

Why would I invest more time into what was seemingly some conspiracy/drama about gaming? I get it, Who What Now, Boner Confessor, and you have probably invested years into this poo poo. I was too busy being a "rational", cut me some slack.

It really didn't take much reading, like a few minutes at most, to figure out the story. "Years," loving lol.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

boner confessor posted:

the funny thing is that gaming journalism is garbage with tremendous ethics problems but this starts at the top, where big studios collude with "independent" or explicitly publisher owned magazines that are little more than advertisments in the form of reviews. little indie shops are the opposite of this, but because of cultural marxism they're accused of pushing SJW feminist gaming ethics or whatever the gently caress. so much for free speech

Yea it was interesting to see little to no mention of Jeff Gerstmann's firing over a low review score during the whole "ethics in games journalism" period because that was actually a big ethics violation. Funny enough, most Gamergaters hate Giant Bomb for being "too SJW."

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

KomradeX posted:

Unfortunately the two other dude's from Red Letter Media, Rich Evans and the skinny bald dude kind of cross into that area sometimes which is disappointing

Eh, they're hardly alt right for making the occasionally edgy joke. They're definitely not an example of YouTube hatred, except towards the movie Rogue One.

Best Friends Play (aka TheSwi1tcher that was mentioned earlier) is an example of an extremely long running LP channel that has stayed funny and not descended into a bunch of screaming slurs.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Deified Data posted:

Uh...wth is Laci Green doing?

"actually racists and sexists are right about a lot of things if you take the time to engage them and learn from their perspective, here's a cherry picked example of political correctness out of control. So much for the tolerant left... "

She wants that alt right sellout money.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

To me, the thing separating these YouTube alt right types from actual danger is the lack of call to action. Most of them just rant, rant, rant and never propose that their viewers actually do anything, because doing stuff is caring and caring isn't cool.

Like, be thankful for the overwhelming sense of apathy that plagues the younger generation.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

OSI bean dip posted:

Robots are a human construct that do not have the ability to feel things and are at this moment in time incapable of sapience

I don't even see how a sane person could disagree with this. Jesus Christ, Eripsa, can we worry about the actual problems that real people have instead of hypothetical robot rights?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

OSI bean dip posted:

You have to remember that when Eripsa was wanking about the Polytopolis that he pretty much said that he wanted to tell minorities and low-income persons to butt out. He doesn't give a poo poo about social problems but instead his make-believe ones.

At least when he wanking about that it was about actual people, not programmable objects that he thinks deserve some sort of respect.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Eripsa posted:

The invention of cars also demanded an entire legal and political structure to manage. Cars don't have "rights" like people, but they are legally recognized entities with elaborate policy designed around them.

No, Eripsa, we created policy to deal with drivers, not cars. Getting a license is something the human driving the car does, not something we award the car.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Lightning Lord posted:

I read somewhere that it's a handful of rich weirdos bankrolling this stuff :shrug:

That makes way more sense than a sudden increase in desire for incest.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

NikkolasKing posted:

I dunno what happened. Maybe she wants money

Ding ding ding

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Yea, "gamers" will post a ton of dumb poo poo online, but sports fans will actually riot, so which one is actually worse for society?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Midig posted:

They exist. They just tend to be really boring and are reserved for forced interactions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr-ouyT1HhI

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Midig posted:

I think I did this more often then I would have liked to in the gassed thread. My tongue is still operational, interpret that any way you want to.

If you admit you were wrong, but then go back to defending these shitheels at any chance you get, it seems like maybe you didn't really internalize why you were wrong.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

To play Devil's Advocate, the "Who's On First" routine's humor is derived from making fun of Asian names, so it's not exactly an example of innocent humor.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Eh, fair enough, it was a bit of a reach, and like I said, I was playing Devil's Advocate, I don't actually think it's a hurtful routine.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

aware of dog posted:

Speaking of which, I'm a bit surprised no ones made a game of Harrison Bergeron yet, it seems like a perfect fit for how these people see themselves.

It's called Bioshock.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

rkajdi posted:

I though Bioshock was just a dev making GBS threads on Ayn Rand for 20 hours?

Sure but unsurprisingly many nerds took away the idea that the Rand stand in had awesome ideas.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Zikan posted:

Pretty much.

Then it turned into Ken Levine going "socialism is just as bad as libertarianism" followed by "what if minorities are the real racists"

God I really hate the Vox plot in Infinite. :argh:

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

boner confessor posted:

alt right neo nazis freaking out as they discover that shooting nazis is a first person shooter staple

Particularly with the Wolfenstein series, which has literally been about nothing but shooting nazis since the first one.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Midig posted:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=seAl1fm0iDE

Rationals might move onto vidme. So now we can watch them without letting it affect our feed on YouTube.

Folding Ideas has a great video breaking down Vidme's flaws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Quinn,,, reading her various blogs/tweets/social media even the long eron thing. she strikes me as kinda of a lovely person who uses people and throws them away. i know people like her personally, my ex was one. they are toxic as gently caress people who make you feel like poo poo constantly. it sadly wouldn't surprise me if half the stuff the ex said was true. that being said, it should never have gone public and she didn't deserve that level of poo poo.

Do we need poo poo like this? This is gross and basically the same poo poo a "rational" would say, in fact, the whole tone of the thread is getting a little "rational-esque"

You basically are saying that her ex is right here, gently caress you.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Thread, turn left.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Here's a great short vid from Dan Olsen about why "Is movie feminist?" is a dumb question to even ask:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb3U6f_qxZ8

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Groovelord Neato posted:

when someone says "fury road is feminist" they mean "it has feminist themes" language isn't usually used extremely literally. the only feminist bit in wonder woman is the main character is a woman but she's still highly sexualized.

So wonder woman has no feminist themes?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Mr Interweb posted:

What a whiny, little bitch.

And yet, it will work, because Anita isn't allowed to have that cathartic moment without consequences.

Well "work" meaning to his tired little insane corner of YouTuber.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

business hammocks posted:

It doesn't matter what she does or doesn't do. He would have just made a different video that still used his presence in the front row of her panel as an excuse to talk at a camera for two hours. As long as she doesn't do anything a normal human would object to (a line she's unlikely to cross, as she is the rare normal human to end up across the internet line), she's not the one deserving of close attention here.

No, you're totally right, it's just frustrating.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Lightning Lord posted:

I'm sad about how hard Laci Green is being used

She's loving that exposure though. She knows what she's doing.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

business hammocks posted:

She really does seem like a genuine naif, even when mixing her personal life with her business in a way that increases revenue. She's not faking anything, just choosing to do it in public as if she were just a private citizen with a twitter and a facebook. She won't deserve what's bound to happen.

I dunno, I think this is all very calculated on her and Chris' part. I think he convinced her how the pepes are the best type of YouTube audience, as they "engage" more by posting comments and liking/sharing/subscribing. Hell a few of them will probably starting throwing her some money too.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Trying to say which movie is "more" feminist is pointless. No movie will ever be "truly" feminist, short of a movie where a woman (preferably a black woman) just stands there and preaches feminist theory for 2 hours. And we would rightly identify that as propaganda, because it doesn't tell any story, it's just pure ideology.

Any movie that is "the most feminist" would be a lovely movie, just like any movie that's "the most fascist" or "the most progressive" or what have you.

If you want to talk about specific feminist themes and images, great, and I'm by no means trying to shut down discussion, some of the longer posts have been interesting as hell, but there's no point in defining an entire movie as feminist or not.

WampaLord fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jun 25, 2017

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

MiddleOne posted:

Lets be honest here, we'd just dogpile them for even more non-sequitur reasons like we have done in the past. Being a popular content creator and being open about it on SA sucks.

Quite a few of them post regularly in the Internet Critic thread in RGD. Hbomb, Dan Olson, the girl who does Baywatching, etc.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

jfood posted:

Making a play for the absolute largest amount of those sweet patreon dollars is, by far, the most woke and intellectually honest action someone like Green could accomplish. Pay for university, or remain pure in an ideological slapfight with the rest of the retards on the back of the short bus until you become a soulless husk incapable of feeling joy, like the Chapo crew?

The Chapo crew is pulling in like $50k a month, though, so....

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Really the true solution is just to ignore Twitter.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

When I said "The real solution is to ignore Twitter" there was an unspoken "and also YouTube comments" in there.

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


The poster in question poised it as "You have to sell out (to the alt right) to get paid" but the Chapo crew is a case of proving that's not the case?

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