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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

And as per usual, our thread motto and how we're all going to feel on the morning of June 9th


I am holding onto this because hope is too heart-breaking and brexit and the last GE and Trump nearly broke me.

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Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

dispatch_async posted:

I'd push the button if it meant an end to nukechat.
Agreed. It's worse than boatchat.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Raeg posted:

I kept getting a "Ruth Davidson: Queen of Scots" ad on Facebook that I assumed was an attack ad until I noticed it was from the Conservatives. That's... a bold stance.

I'm also getting Ruth Davidson ads on facebook, I've no idea why they think that'd appeal to me.

On the other hand, facebook's algorithm also regularly advertises nutella at me when I'm allergic to hazelnuts so maybe facebook just hates me.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011


Jesus Christ, the man is a toddler.

I'm moving to live in that country with that gigantic baby in charge.

gently caress me.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

kustomkarkommando posted:

Did he burst those yokes. Jesus Tim can't you do anything right

Now Gordon Ramsay needs to turn up and berate him for his lovely eggs.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

Sorry lads, but we have to temper this out and remember our beloved motto:



We're going to wake up on Friday morning to a 50 seat Tory majority

lol my hope is that it's just a 50 seat majority. We're gonna wake up to 400+ tory seats total and we're all going to weep

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Just had a tory oval office on facebook on the defunding of the NHS saying that it's a strong government that makes hard but necessary decisions.

You know, the hard but necessary decision to move money from public services into their offshore bank accounts.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Zoran posted:

Guys, I have hope

hope is a lie

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Two more votes for SNP in Dumfriesshire. Even if everything else was poo poo, if we managed to kick out Mundell I would be deliriously happy. It'll never happen though.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Regarde Aduck posted:

If you SNP dumb shits must contribute to the chances of May winning at least get it right this time. Don't gently caress it up again and end up with even more Tories. I don't think you'll get a third chance.

I live in an SNP/Tory marginal, you dumb gently caress. The tories won this seat by a mere 800 loving votes in 2015 over the SNP.

Maybe stop hating on Scotland and took a good hard look at the fact that they're polling 26% in Scotland and 40% minimum in England and decide who is really to blame for the poo poo we're in.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

I'm sunk in a deep depression today, and it's been building all week. I think it's because I genuinely have no hope of a good outcome. For Brexit and Trump and 2015 I had hope. False hope, but hope nonetheless. Now I have nothing. The tories are getting their landslide and Britain is gonna get completely hosed because the tories have proof that no matter what they put in their manifesto, no matter how blatantly evil they are, they will win.

So prepare for policies that gently caress us over harder and faster than before because why both with a pretense anymore?

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

namesake posted:

Extra-parliamentary activism isn't impossible and it doesn't (necessarily) involve violent or criminal acts, don't be afraid of it. Resistance has been poor up until now but Corbyn and Labour aren't the final culmination of that, they're just the furthest we've managed to push the movement and giving up now is insane when they have honestly come this close to power.

If you're an activist, be encouraged.

If you're a voter/supporter, become an activist.

I'm trying to move to the US sometime in the next year to be with my fiance. I can't afford to rock any boats either here or there.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

So I'm catching up on the thread and i just want to say to all the English morons making GBS threads on Scotland: Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales saved your asses. England alone is 296/533. A significant majority. We only gave them 13/59 (which, yes, is 13 too many but it's also not even close to a majority of Scottish seats), and we even gave some labour seats back which no one was expecting before the exit poll.

England would have a majority Tory government without us smaller countries. For once, Scotland did actually have an effect on the outcome of the general election (which I'm super happy about). You're loving welcome.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

I think you guys are forgetting that this is going to be a coalition/deal with a Northern Irish party. Certain subsections of English voters (especially tories) will be incredibly unhappy with the idea of Northern Ireland dictating their policies, just like they hated the idea of Scotland doing the same with an SNP/Labour deal. They pretended it's about independence but for those kinds of people it absolutely is not, it's all about EVEL and they will not like a minority country having huge sway over England.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

The DPRK posted:

My hope is in flux.

While I understand a DUPCON coalition will be bad, I'm still not confident that 6 months in the political limelight will be kind to the Jam Man. The press will be out to get him and will be looking to invent even more stories about his love for terrorism and bombings.

Can anyone sure me up with some fresh hope?
After being 20 points down, in 2 months where he faced vile, concentrated and outright lying attacks from the Tories and the media, he managed to get nearly 30 more seats, improved his personal popularity immensely and got the young to turn out in droves to vote. When the spotlight turned on him, he shone like the brightest diamond in a sea of muck.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Baron Corbyn posted:

why do you guys keep saying Tories/DUP would be a majority of 1? They have 328 seats combined compared to 322 for everyone else. That's a majority of 6 and it's really a working pmajority of 13 because of Sinn Fein.

Because it's based on rebelling rather than abstaining. If a single tory backbencher voted against the party line, it'd go to 327 - 323, if 3 do then it'll be 325 - 325, a stalemate.

Sinn Fein are always 7 abstains. So it's 328 - 315, so if 7 tories rebel then it's 321-322.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Baron Corbyn posted:

they will have 328 MPs in the house and everyone else will have 315 and that includes the speaker. I don't get how that's not a majority of 13

Because if an MP rebels, it counts double as the tories lose a vote and the chaos coalition gains one.

If 13 tory MPs voted against the party with the rest, it would be a 315 - 328 vote.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Night10194 posted:

Didn't the Tories lose a shitload of marginal seats where she actually came to talk to the voters?

She never once talked to the voters, everyone she talked to was preapproved and most often wearing a blue rosette.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Macarius Wrench posted:

Every human being gets burnt out or fed up with life. Some people just get on with it.

gently caress off.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

gently caress off. It's not a goddamn holiday, you stupid piece of garbage. Get the gently caress out.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Sargon's whole deal is he is very very good at researching and collating information
Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there because Sargon doesn't do this. As someone in scientific research, I can tell you with certainty that Sargon absolutely 100% does not do proper research at all. At most, he reads the abstract and/or opening paragraph of a paper and he twists whatever it says to fit whatever narrative he wants, he cherrypicks to an insane degree and often deliberately skips paragraphs, sentences or even the end of the literal sentence he is reading. I've seen him do this over and over again and it's something incredibly prevalent in lovely scientific papers written by asshats who don't know what they're doing but manage to sound like it enough that they get away with it.

So, no, he is not "very good at researching", he's good at bullshitting.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011


That you think this is research is pretty telling. It's no wonder you buy Sargon as a good researcher.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

There are 1399 empty houses in Kensington according to the news. We have loving homeless people in this country and a single loving borough in London has nearly 1400 empty loving homes.

gently caress this country.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Watching the May interview and it struck me as the same as most politician interviews, especially tory ones, lately where they are incapable of actually saying anything other than meaningless soundbites and catchphrases. They're all robots caught in a loop, especially over the election and over this fire. And while that obviously worked at some point, it is clearly failing right now.

How on earth did we get to this point? It really seems like Corbyn and a handful of labour MPs are the only politicians capable of being actual human beings anymore, everyone else is a trained parrot.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

DancingShade posted:

Soundbytes worked great in the era before everything was being recorded and uploaded to YouTube for wide critique and analysis.

Now if all you have are empty slogans and phrases you repeat every 30 seconds you maymight as well be a Microsoft Xbox launch conference.

I would argue that soundbites worked at the start of the youtube era just fine. Pigfucker Cameron was a soundbite machine and that seemed to work well for him until he shat the bed with the referendums.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

communism bitch posted:

Soundbites can work fine when everything is going basically okay and you just need to deal with day-to-day press questions.
Things falls apart slightly when you've got a literal towering inferno burning hundreds of paups, and you still can't switch the soundbites off.

Doesn't help that a lot of politicians are incredibly micro-managed with regard to all their public statements (partly because of the rise of smartphones and social media meaning they can't let anything slip that might haunt them) so they're almost congenitally incapable of switching that poo poo off and just being human.

It's a lifetime of trying to be the slick, wily, media-savvy politician that fucks them.

I do agree with this, but I think it's not just that it's a crisis now, but that we've been at crisis for years that's causing it. Because Cameron and the tories got away with sound bites during the global recession (national credit card ugggggh). It's only now after years of "common sense" cuts and things not getting better for anyone other than the rich and then a massive incident caused pretty much directly by that poo poo that even people getting their news through the daily mail are realising it's all bullshit with no substance.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:

Guys do you think the US would be better off it had single payer or a NHS like health care system?

I responded to your stupid poo poo in the other thread already, but yes, of loving course America would be better off. There would be be far more people getting help and fewer people in untold amounts of medical debt.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

jabby posted:

drat. BBC News just cut away from a representative of Grenfell action group to show a statement by the Northern Ireland Secretary. When they cut back, with an apology, he said the people of Grenfell are currently wondering if they'd get more attention from Theresa May if they joined the DUP, and how shameful it was that she was willing to spend a billion pounds to stay in her home but couldn't find five thousand to prevent theirs burning down.

Brutal. I really don't know why May wants to stay on as PM, she's getting battered at every turn.

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Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

I'm a "hard remainer", and I think it's a loving travesty that the only party that thought about the 48% who voted remain was the loving lib dems and we all know you can't trust them and they just did it to try and become relevant again.

Brexit is going to gently caress this country in the arse, and you're all loving lemmings. What happened to "him being electable is not the point, it's about getting the right narrative out there"? Oh well, guess we better all jump off that cliff because it's Corbyn leading us there. And if you think he wouldn't bring us out of the single market/freedom of movement then you're delusional too. This is going to gently caress all my EU friends over at minimum, and I care more about them than the loving principle of democracy that got us into this mess.

And before you start, yes I understand that it's the politic move. Doesn't mean I have to loving like it, and it doesn't mean I don't feel betrayed by there being absolutely no voice for those of us who would really, really, really like not to jump off the Brexit cliff.

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