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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline?
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The Big3 Tourney 67 22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball 40 13.38%
Where will the Pauls go 54 18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? 41 13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking 97 32.44%
Total: 210 votes
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IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Salvor_Hardin posted:

Haven't had cable in a while. I'll look into those.

Vue owns but their mid-tier package just went up :10bux: (the others probably did too) which kinda sucks

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IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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I'm really interested to see if Philly will throw a max at Embiid before the season starts

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Golden State's first title

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Metapod posted:

as great as kawhi is on the court he will never ever reach the peak that Durant is at right now

I'm sure he eventually will, I doubt he retires before he starts to fall off

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Sheriff posted:

The Timberwolves gave away Jimmy Butler so they could grab future washout Kris Dunn.

:confused:

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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tanglewood1420 posted:

Celtics send picks

realistic trades only please

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Away all Goats posted:

They're trying to win 2004 pistons style

Two top 15 players and a great collection of role players?

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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leftist heap posted:

If LeBron James was a Dragon Ball which would he be??

Well he's not one, not two, not three...

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Dejan someone on the Timberwolves subreddit made this and I thought of you

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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I'm for nuking LA on the condition that after the Lakers franchise is vaporized their history and name are returned to their rightful place in Minnesota

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Wasn't Allen only on the team for like three years? Why would they retire his number?

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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I don't actually understand how someone can miss a dunk this bad. He didn't even get rejected by the rim like old man Wade in the playoffs because he was never high enough. It's like when your 10-year old little brother tries to imitate you and all you can do is laugh.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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I feel like this is a great time to post this video again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwocezhA6cI

trigger warning at the very start for Bulls fans

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Ammanas posted:

its either not a joke or its not funny, vote now to decide

I choose option C: your broke brain can't appreciate it

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Zogo posted:



code:
Tm	2016-17 Bench Cumulative GmSc

WAS	1593.3
MIN	1446

lmfao

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Wolves should trade for Kyrie and run a Teague/Kyrie/Buckets/Wiggins/KAT lineup.

Also get the NBA to allow two balls in play at once

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Salvor_Hardin posted:

They should just trade Teague.

They can't until I think January otherwise that would have been my first option

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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the amount of Wolves fans that won't even entertain the notion of trading Wiggins for Kyrie is staggering

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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This video is incredible

https://twitter.com/Timberwolves/status/889574476395958272

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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TV Zombie posted:

Shouldn't the Mavs be signing Noel by now?

From the few reports I remember reading it sounds like they're lowballing him (I don't think they even offered four years) so he's waiting for someone to offer him a better contract that forces them to match, but nobody else wants him at that price either.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Paul Zuvella posted:

Yeah, he seems like the biggest victim of unrealistic contract expectations this offseason. I don't know you can say the Mavs are "lowballing" him when the market has not offered him the contract that his agent told him he could get. Whoever his agent is should probably be promptly fired after all this.

Good point.

euphronius posted:

Also I love that mavs are low balling Noel after all the happy horseshit they said about him (with the intent to freeze out rfa offers it seems in hindsight ).

I don't remember, but I did find this tweet with a quick googlin'

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/888758896617299968

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Ammanas posted:

The markets nowhere near there for backups, the position has been remarkably denigrated, the top 3 centers in the league are generally not even the most important players on their team

Davis and Towns?

I guess Davis is technically playing more 4 now with Cousins and Towns is going to be behind Jimmy for this year but last year alone this was wrong.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Lockback posted:

Dieng signed a 4/64 contract which I think is a good comparison for Noel. They are both borderline starter/bench bigs who are somewhat one dimensional. Dieng is more of a rim protector while Noel is more rangey defensively, on offense they each have a couple skills but are probably only scoring 10 assisted points. Dieng is a good rebounder on both sides though, so I'd pay him somewhat more, though he is a few years older.

Something in the 12-14 range for Noel seems about right to me.

It's kind of funny that at the time it was seen as a massive discount to get Gorgui on that deal and not even a year later it's considered a bit of an overpay by some of the same people.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Allen Crabbe was theoretically an NBAer at one point, so reclamation project?

He was an NBAer last year too but nobody noticed because his contract is really bad.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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zoux posted:



It's Cleveland, burn it anywhere

if the river isn't on the list they should lose their checkmark

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Doltos posted:

That trade is essentially Wiggins for Kyrie.

Kyrie - Jimmy - someone - Dieng - KAT with Jeff Teague coming off the bench ehh

Teague-Kyrie-Jimmy-Taj-KAT

Probably split the rotations so that Teague and Kyrie are the only PGs through the game though.

Ratzinc posted:

Wiggin's

This always makes me laugh.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Cool Buff Man posted:

I feel like I say it every week but I really don't like Dame Lillard. He's a namesearcher, looking for any chance he can get to feel slighted

Yeah it's really bad.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Space Camp fuckup posted:

LaMelo is going to change the way basketball is played in China

He's already got the dunk perfected for China and he's still in high school so probably.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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https://twitter.com/toddfuhrman/status/890350659480035328

👀

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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This is also a good Timberwolves related tweet

https://twitter.com/Patrick_Fenelon/status/890291517633556481

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Jack's Flow posted:

For some reason I thought he had already signed the extension.

Asking someone if they're worth a max while they're currently negotiating a contract extension is so dumb.

Also Wiggins isn't going to sign the extension until the Kyrie stuff is done because if he signs it he becomes impossible to trade.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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straight up brolic posted:

He's better at other poo poo. .94PPP when he's dramatically better in other areas. Better as a bailout play for him than ISO though!

Isn't ISO being the worst option almost a universal truth?

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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dokmo posted:

Yes but there's some selective sample bias happening here since isos are rarely called and almost all the ones you see are after a busted play or against the shoot clock or a ballhandler hotdogging for reasons known only to him. If you could just measure the efficiency on called isos they would probably look like a better option, but probably not by much but who knows.

Can you tell me the ppp of Andrew Wiggins ISOs in the 4th quarter of a close game? Because almost all of those were called and it felt like he failed way more than he succeeded.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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I know the "ignore the foul rule if something is cool" rule and all but man he was way over the line

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Where are the alternating caps

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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He's done this the last two ir three offseasons iirc, if he doesn't shave it for the season then you can worry.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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E2M2 posted:

It always felt like Terrance Jones was killing the Warriors

I don't think he ever played for them :confused:

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Paul Zuvella posted:

Turns out the best city is *MY CITY* and the worst city is *CITY WITH SPORTS TEAM I HATE*

To be fair, even people from Green Bay think the city is pretty trash.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Papercut posted:

I can't think of a single city I've been to that I didn't like. Cities own.

I went to Buffalo, NY once and never want to go back.

Not a fan of SF either but I don't really hate it. There was still redeeming qualities.

DC and Seattle are probably my favorite cities that I've stayed at.

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IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

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Ammanas posted:

SF would own with 50% less people, much like California

Well when the entire northwest gets obliterated by a tidal wave someone's going to have to repopulate

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