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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Real deal can be a campaign slogan. It's snappy Yeah, I was thinking Biden could run on that one.
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what's a joint labor-management committee? Are they going to legalize pot or no?
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ex post facho posted:pelosi's lovely platform for all to see So here's the proposal for jobs: double federal support for registered apprenticeship programs a tax credit to hire and train people Create a Network of Thousands of Partnerships between Businesses, Career Technical Programs, Public Schools and Community Colleges (whatever the gently caress this means) http://www.democraticleader.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/A-Better-Deal-on-Jobs.pdf And no legal pot. Donald Trump is going to be a two term President unless the Republicans impeach him. quote:In the days and weeks to come, we will propose more bold ideas to achieve our goal of filling and Bold, lol. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 19:05 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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quote:Beer Industry: As of 2016, five breweries controlled over 50 percent of global beer production http://www.democraticleader.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/A-Better-Deal-on-Competition-and-Costs.pdf Legalize home distilling. quote:Food Prices: The consolidation of six agricultural giants is set to threaten the safety of food and What the voters of this nation are really crying out for is more diversity in corn varietals at the supermarket. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 19:12 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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quote:"Here’s the number one lesson from Georgia Sixth," Schumer said in reference to the Democratic loss in the special election last week in Georgia's Sixth District outside Atlanta. A Better Deal posted:Consumers should be able to choose from multiple types of corn.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:23
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The bottom line here is this: Can anybody say they think this is going to change the perception that Democrats don't stand for anything and are only anti-Trump? This can't possibly do that. There is no game changing headline here. Changing that perception was the point.
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Jul 24, 2017 20:43
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Training isn't the problem. Wages are. There are plenty of low wage jobs out there that do not require much training, they are just hard as hell and don't pay what they should or they are demeaning and don't pay what they should. What industry is facing a labor shortage right now because working class people aren't trained to participate in it?
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Jul 24, 2017 20:49
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Concerned Citizen posted:yes and it is a problem for the construction industry as many people with specialized skills lost their jobs, were unable to find work, and decided to stop working in home construction I guess funding more training would be fine as a short term stimulus, but the industry seems too unstable to be a reliable solution for the working class in the long term. Short term stimulus lacks the vision promised by referencing The New Deal with the A Better Deal slogan, if you ask me. Concerned Citizen posted:well 1. it would be a surprise if construction hit parity with "all industries" given it's a blue collar job  
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Jul 24, 2017 21:11
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loquacius posted:I'm actually kind of shocked no one in my Facebook feed has said a single word about the new platform, either for or against from either direction I'm not convinced a single person who doesn't read this thread is aware it exists.
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Jul 24, 2017 21:16
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Construction is one of the most dangerous jobs there is in regards to accidents and just general health impact because it is outdoors and physically taxing, requires high levels of skill, and doesn't pay as well as it should because it's "blue collar." Is the problem here really lack of access to training? It still sounds to me like the problem is the wages, even if they are rising.
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Jul 24, 2017 21:27
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The best idea would probably be to have some sort of taxpayer funded training system to prepare young people before they enter the workforce. It could teach them the skills they need to hold a job when they become an adult at 18. We could even make attendance at a training program like this mandatory for kids so nobody is left in the dust before they even begin. The only question is how we separate out the "blue collar" kids and the "white collar" kids so we can get them in the right training programs.
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Jul 24, 2017 21:47
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Concerned Citizen posted:i would prefer a complete price control board that covers all medical procedures, but calling it "lower drug prices with a questionnaire" is just a lie just say "medicare for all."
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Jul 24, 2017 22:04
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Concerned Citizen posted:yes it would be pretty silly to rely on their word, which is why the agency is proposed to have investigative powers medicare for all
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quote:Tough New Enforcement of Drug Price Gouging: Prescription drugs that meet a test for an NO, MEDICARE FOR ALL, OKAY?
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Those are blue collar countries.
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I missed the section in the new platform where we solve racism.
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If they fear the generals so much why can't they win them?
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he's with us on everything but the war
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zegermans posted:there's always some reason leftists fail other than themselves Well yeah. The enemies of the left work against it constantly.
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Jul 25, 2017 18:35
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Biden is basically identical to Hillary when it comes to politics. He should be pretty aggressively pushed out of any plans for the Democrats for 2020. I mean, he could actually win the election where Hillary's total incompetence on every level failed, but then we are still left with the status quo of politics for the most part. And that status quo is monstrous and horrible.
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Taintrunner posted:the secret to these sorts of articles is to immediately scroll to the end and see what the closing paragraph starts with Tax the rich and free college/healthcare aren't planks of the idpol left. The idpol left is mostly rich and already has access to college and healthcare. The plank of the idpol left is, "But will it solve racism?"
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Taintrunner posted:Well then that's not left at all, that's just liberalism I think you might be right!
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got any sevens posted:i agree. libs should stop demanding everyone be as centrist as them, they should embrace Bernie as a compromise candidate yeah but in the centrist mind: pragmatic compromise candidate: Liked only by democrats, disliked by independents. Republicans hate. Purity candidate: Has appeal among democrats and independents. Republicans hate.
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gradenko_2000 posted:it means not being Hitler, apparently Wait, does that mean the party is going to start litmus testing people to make sure they aren't too hawkish?
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Jul 31, 2017 16:59
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A bad dem after all.
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Thug Lessons posted:My main problem right now isn't that they're not leftist or even social democrats, but that they're exploiting the opportunity provided by Trump to lurch hard to the right and reneging long-term promises like protecting abortion rights (which people are somehow blaming on Bernie? what?) How are people acting like this is something new though? The Democratic Senator from PA is pro-life and the party supports him. If promises have been reneged, this isn't a new thing that just happened. It's business as usual. Hell, when he and Specter were both in office we had a pro-choice Republican and a pro-life Dem representing us. When Bernie said it was okay to support a pro-lifer, he was just repeating the Democratic party line. quote:Casey attempted to follow in his father's footsteps by running for Pennsylvania Governor. Casey faced former Philadelphia mayor Ed Rendell in the Democratic primary election. The Pennsylvania Democratic Party threw their support behind Casey, whom they saw as a more electable candidate than Rendell. In a bitter primary, Rendell won the nomination by winning only 10 out of 67 counties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Casey_Jr. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 20:38 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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zegermans posted:Tell me more about how Bernie would have won PA and OH. With his much greater than Hillary appeal with independent voters and his laser like focus on an economic message. I mean, unless centrist Democrats defected to the other side. But they wouldn't do that because they are just pragmatic progressives, not actually opposed to progressive policy so we don't need to worry about that.
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Concerned Citizen posted:didn't bloomberg say he would have run if bernie had won the nomination? wouldn't be surprised if he bled off enough centrists to prevent bernie from winning. i don't think progressives have a monopoly on voting against a nominee they don't like. 
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Concerned Citizen posted:john roberts actually voted against it, but anyway the key to the ruling was the sea change in public support that happened very rapidly. and politically, there was also a lot of movement in the states on the issue. Maybe it would have happened faster if popular Democratic leaders tried to persuade people it should happen instead of opposing it? Sometimes I think Democratic leaders have the definitions of "leader" and "follower" reversed in their heads.
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Concerned Citizen posted:10 states plus california took legislative action on gay marriage quote:Same-sex marriage is legal in the U.S. state of California, and first became so on June 16, 2008, when the state began issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples as the result of the Supreme Court of California ruling in In re Marriage Cases, which found that barring same-sex couples from marriage violated the state's constitution. The issuance of those licenses was halted during the period of November 5, 2008 through June 27, 2013 (though existing same-sex marriages continued to be valid) due to the passage of Proposition 8—a state constitutional amendment barring same-sex marriages.[1] The granting of same-sex marriages recommenced following the United States Supreme Court decision in Hollingsworth v. Perry, which restored the effect of a federal district court ruling that overturned Proposition 8 as unconstitutional. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_California How many of those other ten were also courts, dude?
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etalian posted:Also don't have the lovely super delegate system for their presidential primary process. Haha, they might next time around.
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Concerned Citizen posted:the legislature passed same sex marriage multiple times, and it was veto'ed by schwarzenegger. the other 10 were legislative without court action. Ahh, so legislative action in the sense of Republicans voting to repeal Obamacare 100 times, got it. This site claims there were only eight that legalized with legislative action. 26 that legalized through courts. And 3 by popular vote. http://gaymarriage.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004857
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Scent of Worf posted:https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/892133418653417474 "don't damage the rising stars, only damage the guy who is already our only actual star."
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heh. https://twitter.com/mostly_chimp/status/892354728298000384
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loquacius posted:He really isn't That actually sounds like a good plan to me, just because every time I point out federal legalization needs to happen and is important I hear people telling me (mostly completely full of poo poo people who don't really care about the issue but whatever) that federal legalization doesn't matter if the states aren't also forced to come on board. Offering funds is a good way to get them to, while still allowing them not to if they want which is their right. If he is the only Dem running on legalization I will vote for him in the primary. Hopefully that won't be the case though and there will be a better option.
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loquacius posted:I don't trust the Alabama GOP to suddenly #LegalizeIt because they could get some money for it. These same states turned down Medicare money to try to make healthcare reform look bad. That's fine. States should have the right not to legalize pot if they want. There are many dry counties in the United States to this day, it didn't make the end of alcohol prohibition a failure. Federal funding has gotten states to move in the past though, on things like drinking age for example. I don't personally think Republicans would want to give up funding over this issue. It doesn't hit them to the core like the dread socialism of Obamacare does. They might just on "this pisses off liberals" grounds, but the problems would be much greater if the federal government way overstepped their bounds and tried to force them to legalize. It would go the to Supreme Court, the bill forcing them to would be slapped down, and then they never would for 100 years out of spite. So, if you care about Alabama legalizing, I haven't heard a better plan to get them to.
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Vox Nihili posted:Cory Booker is: Oh, he's anti-gmo? poo poo, that's bad. Legal pot still outweighs it though. Vegan is good!
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deadgoon posted:never trust a man who doesn't enjoy flesh I mean, plenty of vegans enjoy flesh. They just choose not to eat it anyway.
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