The Orville: THE NIGHT IS OURS! Renewed for S3

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bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The tone is a bit uneven, but that's the worst fault honestly. I enjoyed the hell out of it. If they can smooth the transitions between the dramatic stuff and the jokes, this could become amazing.

Every exterior shot and musical cue was Seth pouring out his heart about how much he loves Star Trek. I think I easily spotted a half dozen or so shots that were framed in reference to specific shots in Star Trek.

I appreciate that they setup why the seed would grow without soil prior to doing the tree trick.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 02:38

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 10:01

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The helmsman everyone is hating on is Steve Smith.

Which is to say, I hope they have an episode where an alien possesses them to sing.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 05:53

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

It's the small things. The Orville flyby when they zoom into the bridge is taken right out of "The Cage."

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 06:44

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I'm not sure where people are getting smug from other than projecting on Seth. Everything about the episode was him being thankful for a command and a desire to live up to the responsibility.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 13:40

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Medullah posted:

Time for Fox to do what Fox does best and air the episodes out of order!

Seth has specifically said the show is not serialized and can be viewed in any order.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 16:44

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Forbes has a dissenting opinion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/09/10/the-critics-must-be-crazy-the-orville-is-a-delightful-homage-to-the-original-star-trek/

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 20:52

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he got the tree idea from "Datalore" when Lore suggests beaming a tree out and then destroying it with the phasers as a sign of strength against the crystaline entity.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 06:31

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I'm hoping that transporter tech exists, it's just that they're horrified to use it on sentient life due to the whole killing your twin aspect of it.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 17:26

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I'm happy, but at the same time cautious.

The drop-off for the second episode is what we have to watch out for. High premier is great, but it won't matter for much if people don't want to watch a 2nd episode.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 23:34

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Well, The Orville itself is a physical model, so it's going to look good.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 18:28

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The Bloop posted:

Not while it was Hugging the Donkey. That was CG.

They're doing both.

Not much different than TNG days when there was a 6 foot, 4 foot, and 2 foot Enterprise model depending on what the shot required.

The big thing is even the CGI models would be based off of scans of the physical model rather than just existing as CG. That alone can make a huge difference in the quality of effects.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 19:05

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Rigel posted:

Norm MacDonald is too much of a flake to be given a permenant, regular character.

Mike Tyson seems to be doing ok with him.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 22:05

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/obscene-indecent-and-profane-broadcasts

This about sums it up. There aren't hard and fast (phrasing!) rules. Enforcement is completely subjective on broadcast networks so internal standards and practices have to play it conservative unless they want to engage in a fight.

# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 19:31

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The_Doctor posted:

I watched Hellboy 2 again last night, and I always forget it's Seth doing Johann Krause's voice.

It always thows me because it sounds exactly like Dee Bradley Baker doing Klaus on American Dad.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 13:18

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Fantastic. Football gets the gently caress the show when that's not even the normal time slot.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2017 00:55

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

There were other visual changes since the pilot too. I noticed that the captain and first officer chairs were different on the bridge.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2017 15:56

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I felt like his quip about not joking with Bortus anymore was a nod at the audience.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2017 16:55

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I would love for the first new TV trek in 12 years to be enjoyable, but there's so much working against it.

Grimdark tone
Development issues
Review embargo
Trope reuse (they are apparently going to the mirror universe in this first season already)
loving CBS all access

The last is the largest hurdle. If you expect me to subscribe to a sub par commercial infested streaming service, I need to be really invested in what you are trying to sell me.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2017 18:05

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Yeah like 3/4 of the Babylon 5 cast are dead so I'm always surprised when any are alive I guess.

Farewell
Flounder
G'Kar
Bill Mumy
Probably captain Sinclair
Like, I dunno I bet the security chief after Jerry Doyle went to Mars probably died or something

Dude, Bill Mumy isn't dead.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 18:55

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Davros1 posted:

I remember awaiting Voyager with anticipation, as the premise was intriguing. A Starship, cut off from the Federation, and through crew is made up of Starfleet personnel and of members of a Rebel faction they fighting? There's great drama that could spring from that. But because of the Star Trek legacy, the first ep ends with everyone in Starfleet uniforms, because the Star Trek legacy must rule overall.

Legacy or continuity had nothing to do with that. It was brow beaten writers and the weight of an entire network launch sitting on their shoulders. Serialization was verboten because the audience had to be able to jump in at any time. Continuity and legacy would have made a BETTER show since they wouldn't have to hit the reset button every 42 minutes.

I'm tired of the incorrect argument that continuity is toxic to Star Trek. There is so much stuff unexplored that wouldn't conflict with anything. Continuity only gets brought up because the loving people in charge keep doing prequels and reimaginings. If you keep going back to the same well, you are going to confuse and contradict things.

Do another time jump, make a compelling premise, and just go.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 21:45

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I was actually half expecting the nerve serum to not work on her since she's human and not their species. I was hoping she was just acting at first and was going to say "just kidding, that didn't do anything."

# ¿ Sep 29, 2017 15:43

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Not to be confused with Marc Evan Jackson, Marshall on Mars

Man, now I want them to do a space cowboy planet episode with Marc Evan Jackson guest starring.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2017 03:00

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

It's still matching Gotham's lead in.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2017 17:28

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

You can't take legal action until someone comes forward with charges. You can certainly marginalize and make moves to push someone out who behaves in such a manner.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2017 21:15

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

With the string of successes that Ed had had, I'm betting the end of season cliffhanger will be the brass trying to promote him to a new ship as the war with the Krill heats up.

This is a nice mirror of Riker always turning down promotions.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2017 16:22

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

She just got news that her son was dying from the toxin that wiped out most of the world and the guy gave every sign that he world never let her go.

It was also very obvious she stressed stun to her son to spare him from having to live with the choice she just made.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2017 05:26

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I loved Ed's "We need better people" muttered under his breath.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2017 05:53

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I ending up breaking my older sister's wrist once. It was an accident, but it happened pretty much the way the shuttle crashed. Pretty back and forth sniping made her lose her balance and brace her fall with her hand.

Never lets me forget it either, it was like a week before we went to the beach.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2017 23:34

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I'm calling it now that the blue guy's culture is totally fine with sleeping around so he feels he hasn't harmed Ed and acts accordingly.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2017 00:54

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

bull3964 posted:

I'm calling it now that the blue guy's culture is totally fine with sleeping around so he feels he hasn't harmed Ed and acts accordingly.

AHEM!

"In my culture, it's rude to turn down sex."

# ¿ Nov 10, 2017 14:35

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

WampaLord posted:

And yet, he still did when there was a great threat, and he did seem upset about breaking up their marriage, so don't pat yourself on the back too hard there.

Hey, I need a good back pat this week.

I think it was more he was upset that Ed was upset rather than any genuine remorse at breaking up the marriage.

Basically, he's sorry he made Ed upset, not really about the act that made him upset.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2017 16:23

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

No, there's nothing remotely the same as firefly except that the setting is space.

It's Seth MacFarlane Presents: Star Trek: TNG

# ¿ Nov 17, 2017 14:40

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I'm going to bet that the restraints were programmed to be able to be broken at the right moment.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2017 18:32

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Actually, he's doing a very good Doug Jones impression right now.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2017 21:03

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Geeze guys. Type 2 Phasers incorporating Type 1 is like Star Trek 101 and was the case from TOS up until Star Trek V.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2017 20:45

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Apparently the hand held TNG flashlights were the front of a FirstAlert flashlight slimmed down a bit and then they ran wires up the sleeves and down to a 9v battery strapped to their ankle.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2017 01:37

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

From above, the Orville's aft section looks like a sideways :aaa:

# ¿ Dec 13, 2017 14:32

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

It's easier to list what Fox stuff Disney doesn't own now which I believe is only Fox News and Fox Sports.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2017 14:36

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The simple rating system for movies today is dumb in the information age. Even the TV rating system is more nuanced.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 19:38

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 10:01

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Pakled posted:

Also there was a strong implication in one episode of TOS that the Vulcans were actually conquered by humans

It was one offhand comment by McCoy who's rarely serious when he's needling Spock. I don't know why anyone points to that as a serious indication of the geopolitical landscape of the federation.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2018 02:53

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