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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Also that he was able to kill so many from so far away. Did he have a 240 or something? From the videos it sounds like something bigger than 5.56.

psydude fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Oct 2, 2017

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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hexyflexy posted:

That's a hell of a lot of rounds to let loose in one go, I believe I counted > 40 if my hearing isn't totally broken.

That's what threw me off. Do they make drum magazines for AKs? Seemed like more than a standard 30 round mag.

e: Vegas has like 8 shooting ranges outfitted with fully automatic weapons per square foot, so he probably just stole one.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Slightly related are nat guard armoury's actually filled with weapons like the Sierra Army Depot or is that more a myth? I just remember people stealing tanks from them a few times in the 1990s.

Units have individual arms rooms that are alarmed and locked. Larger installations do have vehicles and weapons in storage at equipment concentration sites. These are usually still on a unit's property book, but are maintained by the installation.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Proud Christian Mom posted:

unironically this is a point people on my facebook are trying to make. like yeah im sure pistols would have worked well against a target atleast 300 vertical feet and who knows how far horizontally away

400 yards.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

hope you all sent your thoughts and prayers

and then shoved them up your rear end immediately after.

The only thing better than thoughts and prayers is not getting shot.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Do they also hand out free tracer rounds and a spotter so you can walk in your rounds at a target engaging you from a quarter mile away?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Proud Christian Mom posted:

lol how much velocity would 9mm have left at that range and height

If my recent failed attempt to kill someone with a VSS at 1km in PUBG is any indication, not enough to keep them from headshotting you with an M24.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I wouldn't trust anything past that distance other than maybe .308/.30-06/7.62 or .50 BMG. Not even the redneck special, 5.56.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

hobbesmaster posted:

Because at that distance it's the sonic boom from the bullet you're hearing

This requires some clarification: you hear the snap of the bullet passing by or impacting around you before you hear the gunshot at that distance. If you watch the video, this is evident. Objectively, suppressed shots are much quieter than unsuppressed shots.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

She isn't running again. She's flat out said so numerous times.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Professor Bling posted:

More like "neo-con and neo-lib policies have been destroying the working class, but especially the rural working class, for decades; voting hasn't helped them no matter who they've chosen so reintroducing rural America to its rich socialist history is a good thing that needs doing, as well as getting out to keep people from joining up with white supremacist orgs."


But keep on singing the same song that does nothing but drive the people you need to reach farther away from you

Aren't you one of those people who freaks out every time someone brings up skills training as a way to help those people.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008


I grew up in a very rural area, too. The edges of the county formed the tax base in the form of commuters to the city, but large numbers of my highschool classmates ended up working in agriculture. As you mention, no amount of tax breaks is going to lure businesses to a rural area with an uneducated and unskilled workforce. Ironically, the white working class population in those areas has deluded itself into the same kind of self-pity and subsistence on welfare that they accuse urban minority populations of engaging in (projection is an interesting thing), while somehow thinking they're entitled to good jobs that require nothing more than a highschool degree. The bottom line is that nobody wants unskilled labor anymore. Right wing politicians can keep making empty promises about how lowering the corporate and top tier tax rates will result in more "good jobs" (it won't), and left wing bernouts can keep calling initiatives to retrain the population elitest. I have yet to see either side (left or right) offer anything helpful other than their usual nonsense.

psydude fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Oct 3, 2017

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

redneck nazgul posted:

Job retraining doesn't fix the problem either.

As long as employers are incentivized to pay workers less and shareholders more, while workers have no protections and an increasingly large portion of their income is forced to go to things that should be goddamn human rights (housing, healthcare), it doesn't matter how much you train people.

I agree with this, yes.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Job retraining would've been good 20 years ago to prevent today, and likely will be helpful to try and moderate whatever shitstorm lies just over the horizon.

What we need is a modern day labor rights movement before automation gets too big but yeah fuckin right

Automation is the only reason American manufacturing is still competitive. If you try to implement a bunch of regulations to stop it, you'll just end up driving companies to offshore it.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hexyflexy posted:

We had this exact problem in the UK before you did in the US, when our mining and heavy industry shut down from about 1970 -> 1980 (roughly). Any of our governments could have pushed some money to those communities for retraining, or better to get some tax breaks in (or whatever is similar) to get some new industry going. We didn't. We still aren't. Those places are still totally hosed up and on life support.

Guess which bits of the UK voted for Brexit!

Yep, different country, exactly the same poo poo you're going though.

The US is the second biggest exporter of manufactured goods in the world. The manufacturing industry isn't dead here, they just replaced people with machines. For example, I just got done working at a mine that was almost completely autonomous. They had a few operators and maintenance personnel on each shift to oversee everything and that was it.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Crazycryodude posted:

You're completely correct. The jobs are gone and never coming back, and in a few decades human workers are gonna be obsolete. Stopping automation is dumb and bad, but letting the 1% get all the benefits while the useless proles starve is also dumb and bad.

If only there was some kind of system that could resolve this dilemma. A system where the means of production were all held in common and increased productivity meant more resources and leisure time for all, instead of forcing vast tracts of the population into under/unemployment while the tiny fraction of owners reap all the benefits. Maybe call it commonism or something?

Every real world example failed miserably or resulted in effectively the same thing as capitalism. Come back with some fresh ideas.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

bird food bathtub posted:

I'm all for pimp slapping originalist poo poo head judges like the two bit hookers of monied interests they are but at the end of the day that seat was thoroughly and completely stolen.

His votes will be on the record for decades and the hits will just keep coming for the rest of his life span. Pointing out how loving atrocious he is and how wrong everything he stands for might be good for getting your hate boner on but it means zero point gently caress-all unless dems grow a spine and start packing the courts.

WTF are you talking about? The whole reason we're in this mess in the first place is because the Dems went nuclear and confirmed a bunch of circuit and district courts with a simple majority. Now Republicans are doing the same poo poo. Maybe, just maybe, the judiciary shouldn't be partisan?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

bird food bathtub posted:

Sure, it shouldn't be partisan.

drat shame that boat sailed a long rear end time ago.

Don't buy into the "both sides are bad" smoke screen on this particular point. I'll be right there with you on pointing out much of the dumb, bad and wrong bullshit Dems have and will likely continue to do wrong but this is not one of them. You can't blame Democrats for Republicans going bat poo poo insane scorched earth with their approach to governance. Republicans signed this blood oath a long, long time before Democrats confirmed those lower court appointees.

This isn't a "both sides are equally bad" argument. Dems made a short-sighted structural change to the rules that allowed them to score points and ultimately set them up for failure with Gorsuch. Either way, your whole "should have a spine" statement that you repeat 50 times daily in here is completely wrong in this case, because it's exactly what they did.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

the last few pages of ar-15 youtubes leads me to think its the raspberry pi of guns

It's the Honda Civic of guns. Cheap, customizable, and idolized by insufferable fanboys.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hexyflexy posted:

I think you misused the word attempted there. I'm putting my bets on the Catalans. They're the bit of Spain that basically build's and designs, well everything, pissing them off was a terminal error on the part of the government.

It'll probably end with a similar agreement to what the Spanish government gave to the Basques. Member nations of the EU would bar Catalunya from joining, which would turbo gently caress them without financial assistance from Madrid.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I've embraced it as a part of our Ascension to the Singularity. Let the warm glow of the Echo's bezel light take you.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Largest mass shooting at maximum effective range.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

KildarX posted:

Has there been a case where a shooter was stopped after opening fire by civilians? You'd assume there'd be one right? The only times I can remember "good guy with a gun" "working" is when a dude tries to rob a minimart or something with a gun and the owner or some by stander caps them.

Texas A&M shooter. Also, someone in Tennessee maybe? IDK, I'm in Tennessee this week and everyone is talking about how much safer they feel down here because everyone is packing heat and how it stopped some shooter in Tennessee once.

Because obviously nobody at a country music concert was packing heat.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Oh yeah someone recently stopped someone from shooting up the rest of a church after they'd already shot a bunch of people in that same church by shooting them. Mission accomplished.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

So it's literally just a manual transmission that uses a computer to shift? That's neat.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

apparently i should have studied manly poo poo and not nerd poo poo because this was how i assumed automatics worked

Quite the opposite. That's why they're so expensive to repair.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Well it'll certainly give Tillerson an easy out.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Well we found out why the government suddenly and quickly banned Kaspersky. Apparently it was used to steal files that NSA contractor had loaded onto his personal computer.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-10-05/russian-hackers-get-us-cyber-defense-details-from-nsa-wsj

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Mr. Mambold posted:

Do you really believe Kaspersky is compromised and a Kremlin tool? I mean, it's easy enough to connect the dots historically. But then you've got a contractor who was going out of bounds here, right?


Hahaha

I can't elaborate on it, but yes, I do believe it was possible based on what I've seen.

More generally, the director of TAO himself admitted during an interview that they've used Steam and other AAA games to deliver malware to targets. It's not hard to imagine this being done somewhere else.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hexyflexy posted:

I've got a large number of friends that work in computer security (more the reverse engineering side than the network side). Nobody is even slightly surprised, though I've not seen any hard evidence yet. I wouldn't blame the contractor, it was dumb to put stuff on an unsecured system, but really the NSA working practises shouldn't have let him be able to do that in the first place.

It looks like this is the same contractor that was arrested for the shadow brokers tools. So he's already going to burn.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Mr. Mambold posted:

U.S. contractors are notoriously not paranoid enough, I could tell you a Boeing horror story I witnessed it's like a national complacency. Every cabinet department was grading D or F annually for cyber hardening- this was 10 years ago when I was studying that stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's still that lax.
Sitting duck syndrome.

psydude C/D?

A lot of the federal contracting workforce, especially in the IC, is hired exclusively for their clearance first and their skills second. As a result, the quality of the average contractor is low. Combined with a bleeding of talent on the fed side due to the inability to pay as well as the private sector, a lot of the federal government has had a brain drain when it comes to IT and infosec.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

CommieGIR posted:

It wasn't just that, his Chief of Staff was basically taking him to court for documented hostile workplace issues. His staff had like a 100% turnover rate due to abuse.


I wish I could tell you about some of my Security work for Banks and Datacenters. Would make you physically ill. I know it did me, but honestly, despite the gut wrenching violations, I've come to expect it.

I just got done a two day workshop with two regional power companies about developing better security for their distribution stations and I left convinced that we are utterly hosed if the Russians or North Koreans wanted to turn off the power to half the country. Like it's one thing to read about it in articles, but it's another thing to have the heads of security of two large power companies admit how massive the gaps are in their coverage.

At one point, one of the OT guys asserted that even though the relays are connected via a fiber ring, and that network terminates on the same RTUs that also connect back to the enterprise network, that it was perfectly safe and didn't need to be monitored because none of the traffic was routed between the two networks. The pen-testing team next to me collectively let out an incredulous laugh.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Laranzu posted:

Really just put that qualifier in there because in no other circumstance have they ever said anything even mildly in favor of additional restrictions on any firearm.

In this case Republicans control all branches of government so it's not like they needed to change their standing.

The only thing I can figure is that they want the Republican legislators to have an easy way out. A way out they might need for some reason

Not true. They were very much against open carry once the Black Panthers started doing it.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

DoktorLoken posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3SVErXz6dY

I mean, it would be sort of fun to build one of these as a range gimmick since there's no way for most people to ever afford a pre-1986 MG.

The bill that's been introduced bans them outright.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

How does AOL even make money? Do people still have it in their monthly credit card bills?

They own a poo poo ton of news websites. At this point they're really more of a holding company for media.

But they also still offer their email and dialup service. My girlfriend's mom still has an AOL email account that she uses.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Capn Beeb posted:

Northam is another rear end in a top hat that thinks Virginia is only Richmond and maybe NoVA depending if the mood strikes him. Wouldn't surprise me to see him lose and then act bewildered as to how ignoring the rest of the state was a bad idea.

Speaking of idiot Virginia representatives, Terry McAuliffe is pushing an assault weapons ban in Virginia citing Virginia Tech as reason enough despite the fact that jackass used handguns with ten round magazines.

Together with the Norfolk area they make up the bulk of the state's population and economic engine, so I mean.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008


A winner take all game of basketball?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

Extremely no.

Yeah the UAE is one of the more progressive countries in the ME. Drinking outside and dressing too casually are still frowned on, but they don't have religious police that will beat you and arrest you for that stuff.

There's still issues with slave labor, though, IIRC.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

lotta people subscribe for GoT, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will watch/enjoy jon oliver. at least hes better than the terrible political lineup comedy central has now

The main segments of the show are released for free on YouTube each week.

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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

bird food bathtub posted:

Eeeeeeh.....

See Also: Fox "News".

Fox News itself is incredibly logical from a business point of view. They spout out dumb talking points that get conservatives fired up and then collect billions in advertising revenue, laughing all the way to the bank. It's similar to the firearms industry using Obama's election to bring in billions from paranoid gun nuts. Is it immoral? Yeah, but it's certainly logical.

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