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skasion posted:I allowed the subjects of my divine empire to think that I had a weird hosed up dick and perverse sexual practices when in fact, I did not. This was because I am very smart and all the choirs of history sing within me. 
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I gotta say, from what I remember God Emperor is painfully tell-don't-show. We're constantly told that Hwi is the loveliest human that ever existed and Malky is the most evil human that ever existed. (Why, because he wants to overthrow Emperor Worm Turbohitler?)
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Characters also refer to tleilaxu as 'filthy' but Herbert does not describe what kind of filth, if they roll in poop like a dog, if they are stinky, what kind if stinky they are, etc etc
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The Tleilaxu transed their genders, which is the most evil thing you can do besides artificial insemination or lesbian foreplay.
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Okay…how does Leto II Turbohitler turn into a worm?
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Gatts posted:Okay…how does Leto II Turbohitler turn into a worm? sticking sandtrout on his body. these are the larval stages of the worm. he had enough spice in his body that the worms just thought it was water and encysted it like they do with other water
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Gatts posted:Okay…how does Leto II Turbohitler turn into a worm? He covers his body in a bunch of the larval form of the sandworm, the "sand trout", which instinctively are drawn to water and form a barrier against it. In the short term they effectively give him super powers like speed and strength and form a living stillsuit. Over centuries and millennia they meld with his body and he becomes a sandworm-man that lives thousands of years and is nearly indestructible (further spoilers below.) At the time of God Emperor of Dune, he is the only living sandworm. He's killed when anti-God emperor terrorists set explosive charges on a bridge he's crossing that dumps him into the river. Water kills sandworms. All the sandtrout components of his body separate and begin the sandworm lifecycle anew, but this time each with a fragment of Leto's consciousness within, which was ultimately a part of his plan, the Golden Path. ChairmanMauzer fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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Actually, shouldn't the Fremen then have started suffering from massive withdrawl when they left Arrakis and started on the galactic Jihad?
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Deptfordx posted:Actually, shouldn't the Fremen then have started suffering from massive withdrawl when they left Arrakis and started on the galactic Jihad? they still had control over the spice, so you just take some with you. everyone knows it's addictive
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Deptfordx posted:Actually, shouldn't the Fremen then have started suffering from massive withdrawl when they left Arrakis and started on the galactic Jihad? I'm sure Paul would have prioritized their rations as he personally allotted spice deliveries to those in the galaxy who end up cooperating with him. That being said, a LOT of the Fremen veterans end up coming back from the Jihad with some pretty serious PTSD from the violence they perpetrated and the shock of leaving the desert world their society/culture developed on.
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Is there a backstory (maybe in failson territory) that explains how and when Arrakis and the spice were found, and how the spice was discovered to be vital to space-folding prescience? Obviously they arrived at the planet back when thinking machines were still handling space travel. The Butlerian Jihad happens, and that all changes, but were people using spice by that time and how did they put two and two together that they could do the calculations by tripping on it really hard?
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You know we joke about him not having a penis but the dude is a worm and in some ways he is a massive dick himself.
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ChairmanMauzer posted:He covers his body in a bunch of the larval form of the sandworm, the "sand trout", which instinctively are drawn to water and form a barrier against it. In the short term they effectively give him super powers like speed and strength and form a living stillsuit. Over centuries and millennia they meld with his body and he becomes a sandworm-man that lives thousands of years and is nearly indestructible (further spoilers below.) At the time of God Emperor of Dune, he is the only living sandworm. Herbert used prescience to steal this plot from Triple X Vin Diesel for Leto 2
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Gatts posted:You know we joke about him not having a penis but the dude is a worm and in some ways he is a massive dick himself. Hwi. Don't do it. When you want to go through it.
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Mister Speaker posted:Is there a backstory (maybe in failson territory) that explains how and when Arrakis and the spice were found, and how the spice was discovered to be vital to space-folding prescience? it's stated in the original Dune book that there were other lesser forms of drug that could be used for truthsaying and guild travel but none were as effective as Melange and once it was taken it rendered all those other forms useless. It isn't that Spice is the only one, it is that it is by far the most effective and ruins all other types for you
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ChairmanMauzer posted:He covers his body in a bunch of the larval form of the sandworm, the "sand trout", which instinctively are drawn to water and form a barrier against it. In the short term they effectively give him super powers like speed and strength and form a living stillsuit. Over centuries and millennia they meld with his body and he becomes a sandworm-man that lives thousands of years and is nearly indestructible (further spoilers below.) At the time of God Emperor of Dune, he is the only living sandworm.
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Everyone at Adventure Island was so pissed when I fell into the water and my body dispersed into component worms with a pearl of my thousands-year consciousness.
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bridge-destroying is deffo a hot news topic, anyways
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Soul Dentist posted:
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That worm scene was indeed amazing. What I couldn't help but thinking. How does everyone else get on? Especially let's say pregnant Reverend Mothers who aren't trained in this. Also how the gently caress do you manage the dismount?
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They can probably get them to stop, although why that wasn't really shown in the film beats me. I did find it pretty funny that it's this huge deal for Paul to ride his first one and then a little later in the movie they're treated as basically a train ride, public transportation for the Fremen.
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Halloween Jack posted:I gotta say, from what I remember God Emperor is painfully tell-don't-show. We're constantly told that Hwi is the loveliest human that ever existed and Malky is the most evil human that ever existed. (Why, because he wants to overthrow Emperor Worm Turbohitler?) Leto can’t stop thinking about how much he would like to do Hwi if only he had bits, not because she’s objectively the most virtuous or anything but because she was created through ixian super science to be the ultimate doormat, as a joke. Duncan can’t stop thinking about how much he wants to do Hwi because she’s the only woman he knows who doesn’t passively emasculate his sorry 11th-millennium rear end by being able to beat him to death effortlessly any time she pleases. Moneo sees Leto slobbering over Hwi and warns him people are going to think he’s a creep. Leto tells him he doesn’t care. Moneo sighs philosophically. Siona refers to Hwi exclusively as “the Ixian woman” and pays absolutely no attention to her at any time because she’s the only person in the book with her head screwed on straight. When Hwi dies and Duncan has a murderous screaming meltdown about it, she says pretty much “he’ll get over it”.
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Deptfordx posted:That worm scene was indeed amazing.
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Mister Speaker posted:They can probably get them to stop, although why that wasn't really shown in the film beats me. i mean, it's a huge deal for peeps to get driver's licenses, too, in driving countries
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Deptfordx posted:Also how the gently caress do you manage the dismount? They mention in the book you ride the worm until it tires, then it slows down and you can just roll it sideways and hop off.
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Mister Speaker posted:Right, thanks. I think that was a wise change for the new films, IIRC it's never really mentioned that the Landsraad or space witches or human computers are dosing all the time too - I might be wrong but I think they even cut out the health effects of spice and left it as just "vital to space travel" for the Guild. Simplifies things and really drives home the oil allegory. Am I right about this? Paul's little educational hologram doesn't even mention that the Navigators use it to help them fold space? they definitely say the spice has enormous health benefits including long life
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Mister Speaker posted:They can probably get them to stop, although why that wasn't really shown in the film beats me. It's easier and safer when you’re not doing it alone. In the book Stilgar reprimands Paul for not asking for assistance when he almost hosed it up.
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Mister Speaker posted:They can probably get them to stop, although why that wasn't really shown in the film beats me. it's more that fremen learn to conquer the worm as an adolescent rite of passage, paul is learning it much later than normal and as an outsider calling a big one was a pro move, though
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Riding a sandworm is like driving a car to the Freman. It's a method of transportation that is safe if done properly and loving kills you if you do it badly. Paul was trained and knew everything there was to know but he still was 'driving' for the first time without an assistant. (He'd ridden makers before, just never called and mounted one himself.)
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Mister Speaker posted:They can probably get them to stop, although why that wasn't really shown in the film beats me. They showed that one worm stop to take a gander at Paul near the end of the first movie.
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ruddiger posted:They showed that one worm stop to take a gander at Paul near the end of the first movie. Yeah I know, I meant like, under Fremen control. Do we even see it for a moment at the last battle?
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Very carefully, OP. This is canon. Was said earlier in this thread or one of the other ones, it's mentioned in the books that you've got to keep riding the worm until it's exhausted, so it doesn't have the energy to turn around and eat you. Fremen use how many worms it takes to reach a destination as an informal measure of distance. Probably passengers hop off at their destination while the rider may sometimes have to circle their destination until the worm is tired enough to dismount.
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OPAONI posted:This bothers me so much. They named the third
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I am extremely serious that one of the most satisfying gently caress Yous in science fiction was properly adapted to the big screen when the completely eradicated Atreides house were seen with flags atop terrifying leviathans the size of skyscrapers and being ridden in like horses. soooo gooooood
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the whole worm is a dick if u try hard enough
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Hell yes Huck’dib riding Lowly-Hulud
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Look at this guy (gal?) I met on the Funeral Plain this morning. He has the Eyes of Ibad!
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