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 Uurggh I tried so hard to read this whole thread before the movie came out Anyways I got to page 420 do y'all think I should read the books or watch the Lynch movie before I see DUNC? lol jk I've read all six Dune novels multiple times and I'm currently sitting in an IMAX theater waiting for DUNC to start. Talk to y'all about it soon when I actually finish the thread
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Tree Bucket posted:Mentats can be easily defeated by asking them to divide by zero. It makes their eyes go blank and they fall over twitching. Haha called it!
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Oct 22, 2021 21:19
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Guys I did it. I read this entire thread front to back. From the first string of Arrested Dunevelopment jokes to the first mention of thigh pads to the next set of Arrested Dunevelopment jokes to movie rumors to Simpsons/KotH memes and third set of Arrested Dunevelopment jokes. On through the movie coming out and people seeing it in theaters where it was too dark and missing the point somehow and mostly fanboys geeking out all the way to now. That may sound critical but it was an excellent read and I am so glad to be here at the end. Ranked: 1. Dune 2. GEoD 3. Heretics 4. Messiah 5. CoD 6. Chapterhouse And DUNC is better than Lynch's although I enjoy them both as mostly a SF and Dune fan (rather than cinema fan) Unprocessed spice should be blue/violet and the gas should be orange. *Sexily free climbs a wall out*
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Oct 30, 2021 10:33
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:
Yeah I liked those and honestly all the sitcom title jokes too. At almost every derail, however, someone would mention stillsuit function and "rerail" the thread quickly back to talking about poop. haha I wonder what the seitch smells like haha
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Oct 30, 2021 18:59
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Armauk posted:Congratulations. I'm reading through Messiah now. Is the series worth reading in its entirety, or can one stop after GEoD? I don't understand all this prescriptivist stuff about not reading some of the books. Like, are you curious about what happens next? Keep reading! All of Frank's books are at least good. The correct way to acquire the books is for a dollar or less at a used book store so it's not like there's a barrier to entry. Caveat: If you're still curious at the end of Chapterhouse then you're S.O.L. because no other books exist in the Dune universe
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Oct 30, 2021 19:05
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I can't think of any reason that wouldn't be pseudoscientific. Maybe it lets the furnace-like heat out and it melts sand causing friction? It'd be tough to stand next to a cracked open furnace like that though. Maybe the worms get some sort of infection from sand plankton or an imported species and their genetic memory keeps open wounds above sand. Also, is there a quote of how hard the scales are? Maybe worms just aren't as armored as I remember and they are always portrayed as too dragon-y instead of like earth worms. It's all speculation anyways, although a whale attacked with a harpoon often won't dive, paradoxically. It will pull and stay near the surface. Perhaps there's some Moby Dick influence I've missed? "What is the name of the early Arabic Muslim prophet that lives in the desert?" "Ishmael" "Call me Ishmael" 
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Oct 31, 2021 10:47
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Re: wormriding I know that they keep their open flaps topside, but the irritating part to me is why does sand bother sand worms? They literally move through it and filter it internally! I know the answer is "science fiction" but it just seems wrong.
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Oct 31, 2021 18:39
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Just have them make pearls like oysters and be done with it
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Oct 31, 2021 18:52
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I guess the fact that distances can be measured in thumpers means that there are limits to how irritated a worm can get. They could show a worm going "ya know what? gently caress this" and starting to dive despite the hooks after a time of being ridden. Or, like bull riding, have exceptionally cranky or difficult-to-ride worms. Lynch kinda did something similar with the whole "Usul has called a big one" thing. I'm chuckling to myself imagining D2NC having such a detailed and explanatory wormriding sequence that nerds start simulating it like Quidditch or lightsaber duels.
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Oct 31, 2021 19:10
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I think adding the conservatory would have gone a long way to show water discipline via contrast. It would also have been a nice pop of color saturation contrast to Arrakis shots. Show Jessica audibly gasping at the same time the seals *hiss* open and vapor billows out. Maybe a disapproving servant scowling in the background as she enters and the cloud disperses enough to show hints of what's inside (orchids, birds of paradise, etc)
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Oct 31, 2021 20:10
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Not to mention the persistent drip drip of the cistern water in visions throughout the movie
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Nov 1, 2021 10:11
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Vampire Panties posted:If you had to choose between one lynch thing for new Dunc Lightning surrounding the sand worms
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Nov 1, 2021 17:49
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Na'at posted:I really wanted to like this movie but it was as bland as washing white bread down with water. I get not wanting to go crazy with exposition but unless you go in to this knowing all about the universe there's so much to pick apart in this I can't understand who it's meant to appeal to. Get outta here Brian
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Nov 1, 2021 20:23
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Bubblyblubber posted:Spend less on heart-plugged slaves Never!
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Nov 3, 2021 23:43
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Roko's basilisk is literal 400 meter worms led by a prosthetic interspecies penis murdering billions across the galaxy. Yeah, this tracks actually.
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Nov 3, 2021 23:50
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Literal superhuman calculating abilities shown in real time. When I got home and did the math to confirm it blew my mind
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Nov 14, 2021 02:22
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Next time I go to see a Dennis Villeneuve movie I'm gonna bring my abacus just so I can keep up
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Nov 14, 2021 04:53
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kalel posted:uh if you thought that was easy you should take the Mensa test, you might be in the top .1% of human IQ friendo The kiwsatz haderach!
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Nov 14, 2021 05:44
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Also well fed and equipped soldiers fight better, sure, but also steppe folk have invaded stable cultures successfully so it's absolutely possible. I'm conclusion Dune is a land of contrasts
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Nov 15, 2021 21:04
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Yeah, 62k solarii/gram is for your pure grade-a artisanal poo poo. Most people just pick up a tub of Navigator's Choice™ Processed Melange Substance at the local CHOAM's Club and call it good enough. PBUC(HOAMCo)
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Nov 16, 2021 07:45
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Woah what if spice extends life BY inducing limited prescience? Like the tiny amount of foresight helps avoid small household accidents and slip-and-falls thus statistically extending average lifespan like a claims adjuster.
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Nov 16, 2021 14:59
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Rereading again and when Paul meets the Shadout and saves her from the hunter-seeker: "He paused for the mnemonic blink that would store the pattern of her face in his memory -- prune-wrinkled gestures darkly browned, blue-on-blue eyes without any white in them. He attached the label: The Shadout Mapes" So the mentat blink is in the book too, which I can't tell makes it cooler or less so. Also it would be nice to see Muad'dib do it in part two. I think it would be enough to show he has mentat capabilities without saying "oh by the way he's also THIS kind of super human"
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Nov 17, 2021 20:41
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Can someone with knowledge of Greek roots tell me what "Ampoliros" is emulating? I can only see the in-book explanation from Orthodox sources and some grey fuzzy stuff about KJA that my mind won't obliterate fully
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Nov 19, 2021 07:14
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Yeah I love the implications of the reference itself but was wondering about the actual linguistic roots? E: my best guess is like an ampoule or amphora full of music (from lyra or lyre). Maybe a container of song or Pandora's box? Funny answer: So an iPod Soul Dentist fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Nov 19, 2021 07:49
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I love the NFL but those arena pads are pretty cool
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Nov 20, 2021 01:39
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I definitely read 'pumping' as 'pumpkin' on multiple rereads. Might be a little grosser but not much
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Nov 21, 2021 00:35
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Mozi posted:what if SNL did a sketch where it's dune except the the spice is pumpkin spice There's something that would be too long and boring to watch for sure
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Nov 21, 2021 00:58
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I can't believe I had to learn that this existed from the RIP lowtax thread: https://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/
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Nov 21, 2021 04:54
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Earwicker posted:re: world building i recommend gene wolfe. book of the new sun and and book of the long sun are both fascinating series' and i think any fan of the world building in the dune books would enjoy what he does Particularly the natural by-the-wayside nature of letting the reader in verrrry slowly but through awesome AHA moments. Like the currency in the Book of the Long Sun being these golden cards with intricate patterns on them that turn out to be circuit boards cannibalized from the generation ship the entire story is set on E: I think Gene Wolfe matches Herbert's tone and pacing well too. Also that's a serious spoiler so don't click if you haven't read them yet and plan to
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Nov 21, 2021 08:20
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Hey look six hundred plus pages of enthusiastic discussion of a book and the movie adaptations. Let me skip to the end to deliver my completely baseless and uneducated opinion and then*faaaart* call someone a nerd. That'll start the morning off right *shits on the floor*
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Nov 23, 2021 16:42
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Peggy Edson posted:dUnE Is bAd 
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Nov 23, 2021 17:07
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It's actually canon that the water world failson wrote about is the same one depicted in the SpongeBob Cinematic Universe
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Nov 23, 2021 19:47
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The Bloop posted:WHOOOOOOOO lives on a planet where there is no sea Making sure this gets on another page for beautiful posterity
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Nov 23, 2021 23:57
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Lmao that Harah's first husband -- before Jamis -- is just named Geoff. What an ex-husband name.
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Nov 25, 2021 06:56
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Mozi posted:it refers to the sandy twin-sunned desert planet of Tatooine That's actually Dune's monster, not the Dr. Dune of the tile
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Nov 27, 2021 00:17
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Man that's the joke format that gets me every time. I love it!
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Nov 27, 2021 00:22
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This is extremely reading between the lines but I always assumed the Harkonnen peasants lived pretty unremarkable lives, if a little shittier than under the Atreides. It always seemed like the closer to the Baron or na-Baron someone got the more likely they'd be swept up in plots within plots. This applies to spice production, so anybody on Arrakis was gonna have a hard time while If you were on the other side of the planet that is. If Feyd saw your
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The point that Feyd was beloved by the masses while dueling slaves was really good. It definitely shows that Geidi Prime isn't some sort of Hell World and real people live on it. Ruled by sadists in a feudal fiefdom, but they're real people and their needs are at least mostly being met
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Dec 3, 2021 17:56
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In literary terms, it would be as a foil to the Atreides to emphasize their positive leadership qualities. But just the offhand stuff the reader gets about the Harkonnens is enough and any more would add to the bloat
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I think Lynch's most exciting and most buffoonish choices were in portraying the Harkonnen as cartoonishly, mustache-twirlingly evil. It makes sense in a movie to show why the baddies are bad, but his portrayal violates Herbert's weird magical ability to make the reader take things at face value and rationalize them. It makes for excellent watching and raises the right emotions in the immediate sense, but loses the sinister meaningfulness of the Baron in the middle of (SUCCESSFULLY) plotting to retake Arrakis and murder the Duke.
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