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Another piece of evidence in favor of potential Russian involvement is the nature of the false narrative, while it's running it seeks to make the still-functioning parts of US politics look less valid and then when it eventually dies it'll invalidate everything else as well.
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OwlFancier posted:That isn't a Russian thing though, the US's political landscape includes plenty of people who want to dismantle people's belief in the ability of the government to do anything. True, and there's also always the potential that whoever's behind this has a payday in mind that they just feel like they need a lot of setup to get to.
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Mar 27, 2018 15:49
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Relevant Tangent posted:Occam's Razor would also argue that it's probably just some dude who is Too Online in Mom's basement rather than a geniuses. It's definitely harder to do this than just writing insane gibberish, though, because you need to both make insane gibberish but ALSO make that insane gibberish full of fragments that can be broadly interpreted by your followers while also trying your best to encourage them when they think you are right and mitigate any time you went a bit too hard into a prediction and nothing happened that could be interpreted as fulfillment.
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WampaLord posted:No, no you don't. Yeah but they're also fickle, and will flit to something new if you're not consistently giving them the good poo poo.
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Mar 30, 2018 18:29
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Fortunately the wayback machine has it: https://web.archive.org/web/20171218082412/www.maga1776.com/rescue.html How to Lie With Statistics is one of my go-to things to read on airplanes and 'literally just use an unrelated number for the last data point' is so brazen as to not even be a method he considered.
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Apr 2, 2018 22:48
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:I took a few minutes to add up all the non-US cases, and got 1,497. So *assuming* the rest of the chart is accurate, that's still a substantial increase. Like it's probably actually true, just not connected to any of this Q nonsense. It's more a consequence of society finally starting to care even slightly about terrible things happening to women. EDIT: Oh lol okay now I saw your edit and just lol.
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Apr 3, 2018 05:48
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Moose-Alini posted:Yay I’m so happy this thread exists, I been craving it. I mean the stronger the disconfirming information becomes the more they'll believe their narrative if history is any teacher.
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Apr 7, 2018 03:43
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Who knew that humanity's overdeveloped ability to detect patterns would be it's equivalent to stupidly oversized antlers.
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Apr 8, 2018 16:55
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That proof is pretty irrefutable, frankly, Rob Schneider (who in this picture Jennifer Aniston is looking at), agent of the Deep State, will attempt to sabotage a Beyonce performance in order to usher in the New World Order but will be thwarted and finally sent to Guantanamo when Q's allies come Over the Rainbow to unseal the indictment against him.
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Apr 16, 2018 01:12
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I mean they do it with their own religion so it's not a surprise they'll do it with some rando poo poo too. They conflate 'demons' who are enemies of god with Satan, who is a dude employed by god to test people's faith.
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May 1, 2018 15:26
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Deathy McDeath posted:They'd probably be posting on dead gay comedy forums Lowtax has to be kicking himself the reregs every time some Q-fan poo poo up the place and got banned would buy him ten cyber-spines.
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May 8, 2018 04:58
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:As usual Q's been really vague about this. On the 19th of May he accidentally typed his password into the subject field and it contained the number 23. Someone pointed out the number might be a message and Q said "I'd watch the news that day." They'll numerology it into Clinton's in Gitmo and any seeming Clinton you see in public is a Crisis Actor.
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Jun 7, 2018 15:51
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paternity suitor posted:Even as Pizzagate type poo poo becomes more mainstream, which horrifies me, the idea that so many people believe a crazy conspiracy theory seems crazy in and of itself to those who aren't aware. I mean when your brain is functioning correctly you don't "see" the connections these people do, so even when it's explained you correctly dismiss it as madness and have trouble understanding how anyone could believe something like that. And the extent of mental illness in the world is depressing enough that people don't really want to think about or believe it.
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Jun 8, 2018 18:22
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It's really amazing that people can be so convinced that this world has meaning and makes sense so everything that happens must have some tie to the overarching 'plot' of things and equally take no comfort in that. They huddle together in the dying light trying desperately to convince each other that the monsters they imagine swirl around them in the darkness will be defeated by some imaginary hero and every morning when they wake and they remain undevoured they take that as evidence that surely that hero did come and protect them as they slept because their entire sense of self is tied up in the idea that monsters are going to consume them at any second.
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quote:The Q phenomenon is ruining my life! I wake up several times at night to see if there are new Q posts or decoding. Most of my thoughts are about everything I've learned and wondering what's going to happen. I'm constantly checking here for updates during my freetime. I'll read updates even while I'm driving. I'm always anxious about when the SHTF finally. I've given up watching movies and reading books. My family is getting annoyed at me. Help! Am I alone? You are schizophrenic seek help.
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Jun 9, 2018 00:10
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The similar scene from Black Dynamite is also really good for 'starting at something entirely innocuous and ending up at the evidence of a horrible conspiracy'. Not REMOTELY work safe for several reasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D97gwGlMFE
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Jun 10, 2018 16:20
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Mantis42 posted:Somehow disgracing the name of Goku offends me more than when they invoke religion. Yeah Goku's is a good-natured incompetence.
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selec posted:I got one in my life who is a pretty successful tech consultant. Really into shamanic drugs and consciousness-raising festivals. Was extremely pissed about the way the Democratic primary went in '16, got fully convinced on Pizzagate, then moved on to QAnon. He thinks of himself as pretty far left; supports universal health care, gay rights, policies to decrease wealth disparities, and accepts that we have a pretty racialized police system. But man he's got a bug up his rear end about what The Elites are doing. I mean you can even pretty reasonably note that the actual people who 'run the world' are indeed really lovely people who do really awful things on the aggregate, because having that kind of wealth and unaccountable power brings out the absolute worst in people. So yeah a bunch of them are pedos or what have you, and as has been noted earlier in the thread they don't even particularly feel the need to hide whatever poo poo they're up to if you scratch the surface at all. EDIT: So Jesse Ventura used to have a goofy conspiracy show (where he amusingly decided that David Icke was a scam artist) and of course most of it was exactly what you'd expect. On the other hand, there was an episode where he pretty much looked at exactly the sort of thing you're talking about and spent an hour making GBS threads on huge douchewagon T. Boone Pickens for trying to acquire the water rights to as much of Texas as possible Bond Villain style. Feinne fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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SBJ posted:Both can be true if your country is predominantly muslim Theresa May-hommed and her Taqiyya Tories coddling Muslims instead of implementing Brexit by literally phasing the UK into a reality where only white people exist.
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Jun 15, 2018 14:44
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Spiderman has appeared in comics with the xmen and the xmen have appeared in comics with star trek so spiderman totally at least knows people that know spock. I mean poo poo there was an episode of the animated series (which is confirmed canon) where literally satan shows up and he's a cool guy who just wants to party with them and teaches spock how to do magic but then space puritans show up and gently caress everything up as space puritans are wont to do. Spiderman showing up in an episode would be no stranger than that. But yeah as with all fiction conspiracy theories don't give a gently caress about 'actual' mythological characters, they just mash together half-remembered bullshit about them to fit whatever their narrative is and call it a day.
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Jun 29, 2018 03:45
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:I don't even know what is being discussed any more, this IS the qanon thread, right? The only things off-topic when discussing Q are reality, so spocks and spidermen seem perfectly fine.
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Jun 29, 2018 18:36
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hitchensgoespop posted:Wait a minute...tobleronetriangular was fake???? Yes he was a piece of elaborate forums performance art, it was truly amazing.
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Jul 9, 2018 23:05
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Everyone on earth didn't just start counting years from zero the day jesus was born. But why would you need some terrifying conspiracy to cover up something like that? If anything you'd need to make sure there were good records that it had happened so whatever ledgers you were keeping made any sense. And again it wouldn't impact China.
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Aug 31, 2018 14:07
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Endorph posted:You should have asked him to explain basketball. Go with baseball these sorts of people would probably dismiss basketball and football as faked by the nefarious Jew and his black minions.
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Sep 20, 2018 14:51
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Right. The Titans were the founding fathers, Trump and the white hats are Azeroth, Q is Magni Bronzebeard, the Q drops are Azerite, Nancy Pelosi is Sylvanas, Bernie Sanders is Saurfang, John Podesta is Nathanos Blightcaller, Kim Jong Un is Anduin, the gig economy is the poorly thought out non-raid endgame content in BfA, and black people are orcs. It even works well the other way, Trump's G'huun (the resemblance is uncanny really), Q is Zul, and Trump supporters are the Blood Trolls.
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svenkatesh posted:Seen on voat - which executive order are they referring to? A fake one that only exists in their minds.
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VitalSigns posted:That's part of the shifting cultural mores. poo poo who doesn't?
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Don't let the Nazis take away our ability to enjoy really dumb fightman shows.
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Cactus posted:Arrow season 1 had a lot of this. And to be fair a lot of people rightly pointing out he was a murderous fucker.
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Goon Danton posted:Hbomb's whole thing with Measured Response was to just ruthlessly mock the people we're told to Engage in Debate with in the Marketplace of Ideas, so it makes sense he'd do the exact reverse and be overly generous to the people everyone is okay with mocking and dismissing. He's nothing if not a contrarian. I think he went into the research hoping there'd be more to their bullshit than there was, but then it turned out all their 'proofs' were such transparent denial of reality that there wasn't much interesting to dissect about them. And I definitely agree that just spending the whole video on a safari for crazy dipshits would feel like punching down.
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I mean at some level I wish we lived in the crazy world those people imagine because if it were so straightforward to just change gender that every powerful person is secretly trans but nobody can tell I'd be a woman.
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They're not getting the true message of the hands, they're stopping early: Trump's hands are out, signifying five by five. "Five by five" is used in the movie Aliens by the dropship pilot. Aliens features actor Lance Henrikson as an android. As we all know, Lance Henrikson was also in the movie Pumpkinhead, about an old man who summons a terrifying monster to wreak vengeance on the people who killed his daughter. Trump is telling us that terrible vengeance is about to be unleashed upon his foes.
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The real biggest problem with conspiracy theories in general is that not only are they bullshit, but even if they were true knowing the truth would not meaningfully impact your life. We already know the world is largely run by uncaring sociopath criminals, is it somehow worse if they are doing cartoonishly evil fake Satanist poo poo at the same time? Or if they're lizard people or what the gently caress ever?
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:They would say, and I would agree, that you are better able to fight or resist an enemy you more fully understand, and besides that, there is some intrinsic value to be found in the truth. Beyond the aspect where they identify the lovely people they think run the world specifically though their theory doesn't actually have any added value, because the lovely people who run the world aren't even remotely secretive about how lovely they are. Them being secret reptiloid satanic whatever the gently caress doesn't matter because they are also openly super lovely in entirely prosaic ways. End of the day your theory has just added some pizzazz to something you'd still feel if you'd never heard about it. In that better understanding of the physical world allows scientific advances that impact our lives for better and worse yes it does. It's also often relevant to my work when my consulting is more on the technical than regulatory side. So it would matter quite a bit if an alien appeared in my hotel room right now and revealed to me proof that atoms are bullshit. And to be clear I'm not saying this is an inherent aspect of all conspiracy theories. Q might not even be a great example, in that it does accuse a whole bunch of people who are not obviously awful of being satanic pedomurderers. If that were true, that would be of actual import.
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James Woods posted:Dude wound up being pretty chill. Is he crazy? Hell yes. Most certainly. Maybe we've been doing this wrong. Maybe we should get crazy on our side instead of insisting that everyone else is wrong. Im not calling for an end to reason. Im calling for a start of espousing logic rather than conjecture. It's easier to dismiss these people rather than to do the work and bring them into the fold. Please do not get murdered by your LSD friend after he decides you're part of the lizard cabal because his fillings told him.
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Sucrose posted:Replace "lizard people" with "Jews" and it becomes clear that the existence of the conspiracy theory can very much negatively impact the targets, even if it doesn't change the believer's life much. Oh for sure, the targets are harmed which makes the overall theory even more malignant.
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Ziv Zulander posted:If only... I mean I guess if lovely cis people become convinced we're everywhere maybe they won't feel quite so bold in being lovely. Lol no couldn't even finish that without crying.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It really says something about a person if their response to having their worst fears confirmed is relief. I can almost see it with some of these believers in these ultra-crazy conspiracies. If it's really all true then there really is a sense of relief, because obviously you couldn't really be expected to make a difference against people who effortlessly control the world so you can just drop an 'I told you so' to people and then continue your life as it was before you fell into conspiracy land.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Yet that’s not at all how I respond to capitalism. But maybe I haven’t had my spirit crushed enough. Plus you care more about making the world a better place than being able to say you were right and other people were wrong. You can tell almost all of these people really only care about the latter because if they actually earnestly believed there was a world-spanning conspiracy of child cannibals that controls all countries then violent opposition to that is not merely justified, it's the only moral choice you can make. Trusting some anonymous grifter on the internet that he and Donald Trump are totally dealing with it is just signaling that they know it's a LARP.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I kind of have to wonder, WRT to the whole trans conspiracy nonsense, if these people recognize women as existing at all, or if the entire concept of women is a Jewish plot. Because I'm pretty sure literally every single woman in the public sphere at this point has had at least one of these bigoted loons accusing them of being secretly trans. I mean this poo poo probably dovetails alot with being an MRA and boy do they have, um, interesting opinions.
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