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Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


The Dennis System posted:

World wide, the average life span, quality of life, education, and million other things have dramatically improved thanks to capitalism.

*from on top of palanquin to starving serf*

I think you will find that the average life span and quality of life has improved! All thanks to feudalism

*claps hands to be hauled off*

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Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Len posted:

Mines in the same boat. I make an almost living wage and she makes sub $9/hr. We crunched the numbers on just getting courthouse married to get her insurance but if we did my insurance cost goes from 109/pay to something ridiculous like $350

She makes too much to qualify for Medicaid though so she's hosed either way.

Jesus.

Can you or her do a physical labor job? USPS is always hiring and it's my defacto suggestion for those crushed under capitalism.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Hellblazer187 posted:

Yeah? Not the OP but an awesome thing to know while physically healthy.

15-17ish bucks an hour starting depending on which craft. Some of the few remaining unions with any teeth.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012



*Black woman calmly disagrees*

*shakes uncontrollably*

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


MageMage posted:

"Sorry hunny, I won't pay $350 for you, youre hosed."

Starving to death so you don't die of treatable illness is the ultimate capitalist experience.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012



wubalubadubdub

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Nihilism is laziness and cowardice masquerading as an aloof intellectual.

The most pathetic byproduct of the internet.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Screaming Idiot posted:

Hold on, it can also come from abject despair or unbridled optimism, because if nothing has meaning, we are free to add meaning to anything we wish. The kind of nihilism you're referring to is the same kind of laziness that breeds centrists. "Lol, both sides are bad, I am very smart for not caring, also how come I don't have health insurance anymore and why didn't I get my overtime pay"

The hopelessness borne from depression isn't really what I'm referring to. I don't think you'd shurg your shoulders at other people's suffering whether or not you currently value your own life. At least when my depression is at it's most crippling I still hope for other people to succeed even if I just want to stop breathing.

Feeling nihilistic and being a proud nihilist are very different I feel.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Nurge posted:

Person A donates to charities and helps the people they can. They also follow the world news religiously and cry over every war and atrocity that happens somewhere they can't ever hope to anything about. They're causing themselves real and serious mental damage doing this.

Person B also donates to charities and helps the people they can. They don't give a gently caress about what happens in the world.

Both of these people have the exact same impact on the world, but person A is much more likely to have crippling depression.

And no, yelling on the internet has no impact on anything.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but helping something is entirely contingent on caring about the world my dude.

Rick and morty is some effective brain poison and it's directly making fun of the dorks that identify with it.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Blast of Confetti posted:

do you think maybe you could add some yaas queen and dabs so i can better understand

Rich *clap* people *clap * want *clap* all *clap* the *clap* power *clap*

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Nurge posted:

It's not.

It is.

Nurge posted:

And what does some cartoon for children have to do with it?


It's pretty much your entire world view in a 30 minute cartoon for children.

Wait it's for children?

:thunk:

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Many pages of cowardly Finnish bootlicker being owned.

Socialism wins again

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


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Crosspost.

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Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Screaming Idiot posted:

gently caress WHY DO I KEEP READING THIS THREAD

quote:

7 p.m. — I spend the rest of my afternoon packing for my Hamptons trip this weekend! My awesome friend always hosts my entire girl squad for weekends out there.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Fleetwood Crack posted:

peep that $1,000 sundae



That's Serendipity isn't it?

Who am I kidding of course it is.

Ever wanted to wait 45 minutes for a 17 dollar burg? Have a mom who saw the movie Serendipity on your trip to NYC.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Burt Sexual posted:

Incorrect, countering that it wasn’t their fault.

I dunno, a larger entity suing people to prevent them from being able to exercise legal rights is pretty capitalist.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


PostNouveau posted:

Imagine how loving hard it would be to get public libraries off the ground today. Like if we didn't have any and you wanted to start one.

Blood red communism.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Fleetwood Crack posted:



Big Island, Hawaii. $200.00

“For rent is just the bus”

“Its out the road so must be willing to drive.”

“Mahalo aloha and be blessd.”

I'd like to believe you could rent this bus and sue the owner for it not being livable

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Tetracube posted:

[mickey mouse voice] did you know that 99.8% of "poors" own a refrigerator? sounds to me like they're just lazy!

There's quite clearly a war on police Tucker. They're America's most embattled minority! *mickey giggle*

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Len posted:

She plans to but first she wants to work this job long enough to have her student loans go away and then she's going to "go to the private sector where the real money is"

She seems p dumb tbh

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Zzulu posted:

come to sweden, we are very accepting

Not so much of unskilled labor immigrants friend.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Spatial posted:

It is though. There are no other first world countries with no paid paternity leave, or no legally required holidays etc.

You guys are getting hosed and told it's normal and happening everywhere. It isn't.

It's really not. Europe will be fine as long as capitalism can exploit the third world. The US is just a really wealthy third world country but if we ever become a social democracy or economically collapse instead of destroying capitalism world wide you're going to be seeing the same creeping self immolation the US experiences.

Capitalism requires infinite growth and if the fattest cow dies from its bloated parasite it won't just shrug and call it quits.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


spacetoaster posted:

I've got a house, and bank account, in europe just in case.

But honestly life in merica is pretty sweet if you've got money.

lmao once things get bad for the rich in America they'll be bad world wide dummy.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


fdjkbnadjnbkjldaf posted:

'
It's not a quote. It is my own self. How do i defeat the neolibs who point out how loving horrible eastern europe was compared to western europe. And how do I get these people as well as eastern and western european people on my side when they hate the gently caress out of the eastern european "communist" governments.

Authoritarianism is bad?

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


EvilJoven posted:

You underestimate the motivational power of pure unadulterated spite.

And automated systems designed to apocalypse the world in case everyone on one side is dead.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


HCFJ posted:

Maybe boycotting is ineffective if you only do it for one day?

So I take it you think a strike day is when thwy put up the bumpers at the bowling alley?

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


qkkl posted:

The reason minimum wage workers have to work so hard is because they should actually be making much less than minimum wage. Since the government doesn't allow employers to pay employees the minimum amount they would actually work for, they have to make the workers work as hard as they are willing to instead.

For example if I am willing to work for $1/hr in McDonald's at a stress-free pace, and tell that to my boss, but the government forces McDonald's to pay me $7/hr, then my boss knows that he can make me work very hard in a very stressful environment because that $7/hr would make me very happy compared to $1/hr, so that happiness can be counter-balanced by harder work and more stress without me quitting.

I work for 32 dollars an hour at a stress free pace.

Coincidentally its a union job.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


ok sorry

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Azathoth posted:

*Rich person sees readout showing there's only enough food for a quarter of the colonists to make it to the next supply drop*

*Thinks for a moment, puts on environment suit, opens external hatches, killing everyone else. Reseals and repressurizes outpost, takes off helmet. *

"I did what I had to do to survive, I'm a hero."

Well tbf if all the other colonists were rich people it was a heroic act.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


You can immediately see the fair weather socialist because they are white and immediately take their ball and go home (back to Europe) the second any resistance is met.

If we can somehow personify capitalism as a native people with fertile land we'll have a revolution in ten years max.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Though I do delight in the idea that Norway (or anywhere) will be a bastion of safety and serenity during the death throes of capital due to severe global climate change. It's like you all have forgotten that capitalism is fan loving tastic at subjugation of far away peoples in the quest for self preservation.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Hmm America is a sea of corpses and the crops are failing globally. Time to go to Scandinavia where there are certainly no rich people!

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Until we stop looking at what places we can flee to in and instead look at how we can help the communities we actually live in things will never get better.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Moridin920 posted:

It's funny to see this thread going "if you leave instead of fighting to death against the fascist hordes you're a bourgie poo poo licker" but then in the cop thread its "lol you can't fight the fascist hordes you fantasizing dumbass"

lol

The ability to pack up and move to a different country without having to deal with a Coyotaje or equivalent human trafficker is pretty bourgie in and of itself.

Shame Boy posted:

Yep my asian wife who grew up dirt poor definitely caused all the problems of capitalism by being a rich white man, can't argue with that

lol dog you literally called it white flight

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


babypolis posted:

you know what else is bougie as gently caress? using a computer to post on the internet in a forum for making fun of weirdos who spent too much on a videogame but here you are

98% of American homes have fridges new survey says.

And I'm doing the most working class thing of all posting at work.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Shame Boy posted:

Yes? I'm not denying it's privileged as gently caress to even be able to consider it in the first place, it absolutely is, that's why I said that. My point is claiming we're running away from a problem "of [our] own creation" is hella bullshit.

Your wife might not have a hand in its creation but if you're white and privileged yeah you hella do.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


MizPiz posted:

Everyone who wants to post about what is or isn't bougie has to include a photo of their most recent bank statement and everything inside their wallet

Wallet includes one credit card my hralth insurance card my time card my driver's license and my union card to remind new people of their Weingarten rights.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


The Skeleton King posted:

Suck my dick then, pal. You can play crabs in a bucket all you want. I have no obligation to stay here in America, I have no power to fight the fascists and the rich or un-gently caress this country. Soon I’ll be able to start saving money and after a few years I'll have a chance to go somewhere that has healthcare and poo poo, I’m loving taking it.

Lol if you are a working stiff there will be no jobs for you in norway or canada.

Doesn't matter how much you save.

As in all things does not apply to computer touchers.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


SIGSEGV posted:

I agree, the jews that tried to leave nazi germany were cowards, repulsing the saint louis was the right choice as it punished those lazy, selfish bastards for not fighting




i call this one "profit motive"



Yeah Trumpism is literally identical to holocaust era Nazism.

Spoiler alert the people who should have stood up and fought were the Germans not the disenfranchised targeted minority.

If you think the majority of people in this thread talking about fleeing the US are disenfranchised minorities lol.

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Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Hey if you have to flee then flee but kindly stop the "im just gonna go live in Norway while the browns die :smuggo:" jerk off fic.

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