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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

I wonder why Kanye is multiple millions in debt with winners like these

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

The_Franz posted:

It's from the Wall Street Journal, so it's for fintech people on the coasts who actually think that making mid-six-figures puts them in the middle class because "well, we can't afford a mega yacht".

If your wealth comes from your job, you are at best middle class

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

yeah, looks like there's a road specced there that has never been built. The developer probably FYGM right out of there because someone signed off on it early.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

steinrokkan posted:

The monstrous roof arrangements on McMansions always make me wanna puke, can't the idiots making them at least build something that doesn't look like toddler's first go at building a house in The Sims

I noticed the same thing, it's loving ridiculous

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Bet the teenagers aren't getting duely compensated for their plasma

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Owlbear Camus posted:

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1041797176609914887

Does this count as content?

I feel like this should absolutely count.

people don't end up with a net worth of $45 million buy just helping everyone in their social circles with money problems buddy

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

SplitSoul posted:

Y'all opposed to homeopathy should listen to Dr. Werner. :downs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0c5yClip4o

:psyduck:

just :psyduck:

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
I don't like buying crap that just sits on a shelf or in a drawer

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/17/17989712/facebook-inaccurate-video-metrics-inflation-lawsuit


starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Did you miss the bit where they're not thinking of "releasing a virus"?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
They would also have a lot of data on hand about what happened when they were happily spraying DDT to reduce mosquitos. They didn't stop using DDT because the ecosystem was collapsing.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Larry Parrish posted:

somehow the soviets managed to kill almost every single fascist they came across without committing crimes against humanity. makes you think

:eyepop:

do some reading about the Eastern Front, after the Nazis were so loving abhorrent while powering into Russia the Russians gave back in spades when they pushed west

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
I'm a boring person who has never tried an 'illicit' drug. I would definitely try them if I could trust they'd been made and tested in a certified lab though.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
We've basically got the possibility for unlimited fresh water through desalination if we just have lots of unfucked energy right? Pretty much all of our problems could be mitigated with a huge output of clean energy? We can crack water for hydrogen as a storage method. Come on fusion, baby we need you.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
We're past the point of no return already in my non-scientific opinion. Now any effort is just to mitigate how poo poo hosed it's going to get.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-04/harvey-wiley-us-chemist-who-fought-to-ban-poison-from-food/10427832

Capitalism would happily kill us all without regulation

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
this isn't really the right place for this, but why on earth can such disparate things be amendments to bills? Shouldn't amendments be about the substantial legislation being passed? Not "Should we ban offshore drilling? And oh, that means we can also take you grannies' medication when she has her 70th birthday"

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Moridin920 posted:

Yeah riders are dumb bullshit but lol they're not new nor illegal

but they seems so transparently added to tank bills people don't like

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

bike tory posted:

It's another "only in America" problem so handwaving about "oh what can be done???" is a bit silly.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

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Byzantine posted:

When the Confederates were writing up their Constitution (ie, taking the US Constitution and writing in more SLAVERY R GUD), they actually made bill riders illegal.

"Every law or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title."

I can't see why this isn't enough

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

spacetoaster posted:

It sounds crazy, but there's actually a growing section of people who want to remove gloves from boxing. They say the funny poses you see in old timey photos is because nobody wanted to punch heads because you break your hands, so everybody was more interested in body blows.

I box, but wasn't sure I believed this until somebody asked me if I'd have any issues with punching a table as hard as I could with gloves on vs gloves off. So yeah, maybe pads just make it easier/less painful to hit someone harder. But I'd say headgear should be kept. The science says that (at least boxing headgear) can decrease the force of a punch up to 50%.

Bareknuckle boxing is bloodier, but people get fewer concussions.

https://youtu.be/yFqpWGL_EQE

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

looks delicious, what am I missing?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

other people posted:

its packaged like a drat iphone

Everything possible should use cardboard packaging

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
I think it's illegal to tip in Australian casinos

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
oh, what a worry

https://www.adweek.com/agencies/the-average-american-often-cant-relate-to-influencers-this-omaha-agency-wants-to-fix-that/

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Isn't that how those rich as gently caress people live? Just taking out cash loans against their shares and assets? Probably have no idea what life is life for anybody who lives off their paycheck.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
some people are stinking up Davos

https://twitter.com/MissEllieMae/status/1090217105797074944

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

:yeah:

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
kill 8 billionaires or let billions suffer

what should we do?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

fight! fight! fight! fight!

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
The reason universities are hotbeds of filthy leftism is that the more educated a person is, the more progressive they tend to be. And generally vice versa. I wonder if the staunchly conservative students are also the ones paying assignment mills for their grades.

It's one of the reasons "you get conservative as you get older" is starting to not hold true because while boomers had something like 5% with a tertiary education now it's more like 30%

starkebn has issued a correction as of 01:11 on Apr 15, 2019

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://www.filmsforaction.org/news...be-industrious/

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Zeppelin Insanity posted:

I like the implicit admitting that the only way someone might think Capitalism is a good system is to be indoctrinated as a child. In their own words!

It's worked for religion for thousands of years

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/study-trump-tax-cuts-failed-growth-investment.html

quote:

The biggest effect of the Trump tax cuts is obvious: People who own businesses and other sources of concentrated wealth will have a lot more money, and the federal budget will have less.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAB4RAITPY

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-204657048.html

quote:

Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers

(Bloomberg) -- It remains the mystery at the heart of Boeing Co.’s 737 Max crisis: how a company renowned for meticulous design made seemingly basic software mistakes leading to a pair of deadly crashes. Longtime Boeing engineers say the effort was complicated by a push to outsource work to lower-paid contractors.

The Max software -- plagued by issues that could keep the planes grounded months longer after U.S. regulators this week revealed a new flaw -- was developed at a time Boeing was laying off experienced engineers and pressing suppliers to cut costs.

Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace -- notably India.

In offices across from Seattle’s Boeing Field, recent college graduates employed by the Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. occupied several rows of desks, said Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer who worked in a flight-test group that supported the Max.

The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set by Boeing. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” Rabin said. Frequently, he recalled, “it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.”

Boeing’s cultivation of Indian companies appeared to pay other dividends. In recent years, it has won several orders for Indian military and commercial aircraft, such as a $22 billion one in January 2017 to supply SpiceJet Ltd. That order included 100 737-Max 8 jets and represented Boeing’s largest order ever from an Indian airline, a coup in a country dominated by Airbus.

Based on resumes posted on social media, HCL engineers helped develop and test the Max’s flight-display software, while employees from another Indian company, Cyient Ltd., handled software for flight-test equipment.


Costly Delay

In one post, an HCL employee summarized his duties with a reference to the now-infamous model, which started flight tests in January 2016: “Provided quick workaround to resolve production issue which resulted in not delaying flight test of 737-Max (delay in each flight test will cost very big amount for Boeing).”

Boeing said the company did not rely on engineers from HCL and Cyient for the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, which has been linked to the Lion Air crash last October and the Ethiopian Airlines disaster in March. The Chicago-based planemaker also said it didn’t rely on either firm for another software issue disclosed after the crashes: a cockpit warning light that wasn’t working for most buyers.

“Boeing has many decades of experience working with supplier/partners around the world,” a company spokesman said. “Our primary focus is on always ensuring that our products and services are safe, of the highest quality and comply with all applicable regulations.”

In a statement, HCL said it “has a strong and long-standing business relationship with The Boeing Company, and we take pride in the work we do for all our customers. However, HCL does not comment on specific work we do for our customers. HCL is not associated with any ongoing issues with 737 Max.”

Story continues
Recent simulator tests by the Federal Aviation Administration suggest the software issues on Boeing’s best-selling model run deeper. The company’s shares fell this week after the regulator found a further problem with a computer chip that experienced a lag in emergency response when it was overwhelmed with data.

Engineers who worked on the Max, which Boeing began developing eight years ago to match a rival Airbus SE plane, have complained of pressure from managers to limit changes that might introduce extra time or cost.

“Boeing was doing all kinds of things, everything you can imagine, to reduce cost, including moving work from Puget Sound, because we’d become very expensive here,” said Rick Ludtke, a former Boeing flight controls engineer laid off in 2017. “All that’s very understandable if you think of it from a business perspective. Slowly over time it appears that’s eroded the ability for Puget Sound designers to design.”

Rabin, the former software engineer, recalled one manager saying at an all-hands meeting that Boeing didn’t need senior engineers because its products were mature. “I was shocked that in a room full of a couple hundred mostly senior engineers we were being told that we weren’t needed,” said Rabin, who was laid off in 2015.

The typical jetliner has millions of parts -- and millions of lines of code -- and Boeing has long turned over large portions of the work to suppliers who follow its detailed design blueprints.

Starting with the 787 Dreamliner, launched in 2004, it sought to increase profits by instead providing high-level specifications and then asking suppliers to design more parts themselves. The thinking was “they’re the experts, you see, and they will take care of all of this stuff for us,” said Frank McCormick, a former Boeing flight-controls software engineer who later worked as a consultant to regulators and manufacturers. “This was just nonsense.”

Sales are another reason to send the work overseas. In exchange for an $11 billion order in 2005 from Air India, Boeing promised to invest $1.7 billion in Indian companies. That was a boon for HCL and other software developers from India, such as Cyient, whose engineers were widely used in computer-services industries but not yet prominent in aerospace.

Rockwell Collins, which makes cockpit electronics, had been among the first aerospace companies to source significant work in India in 2000, when HCL began testing software there for the Cedar Rapids, Iowa-based company. By 2010, HCL employed more than 400 people at design, development and verification centers for Rockwell Collins in Chennai and Bangalore.

That same year, Boeing opened what it called a “center of excellence” with HCL in Chennai, saying the companies would partner “to create software critical for flight test.” In 2011, Boeing named Cyient, then known as Infotech, to a list of its “suppliers of the year” for design, stress analysis and software engineering on the 787 and the 747-8 at another center in Hyderabad.

The Boeing rival also relies in part on offshore engineers. In addition to supporting sales, the planemakers say global design teams add efficiency as they work around the clock. But outsourcing has long been a sore point for some Boeing engineers, who, in addition to fearing job losses say it has led to communications issues and mistakes.

Moscow Mistakes

Boeing has also expanded a design center in Moscow. At a meeting with a chief 787 engineer in 2008, one staffer complained about sending drawings back to a team in Russia 18 times before they understood that the smoke detectors needed to be connected to the electrical system, said Cynthia Cole, a former Boeing engineer who headed the engineers’ union from 2006 to 2010.

“Engineering started becoming a commodity,” said Vance Hilderman, who co-founded a company called TekSci that supplied aerospace contract engineers and began losing work to overseas competitors in the early 2000s.

U.S.-based avionics companies in particular moved aggressively, shifting more than 30% of their software engineering offshore versus 10% for European-based firms in recent years, said Hilderman, an avionics safety consultant with three decades of experience whose recent clients include most of the major Boeing suppliers.

With a strong dollar, a big part of the attraction was price. Engineers in India made around $5 an hour; it’s now $9 or $10, compared with $35 to $40 for those in the U.S. on an H1B visa, he said. But he’d tell clients the cheaper hourly wage equated to more like $80 because of the need for supervision, and he said his firm won back some business to fix mistakes.

HCL, once known as Hindustan Computers, was founded in 1976 by billionaire Shiv Nadar and now has more than $8.6 billion in annual sales. With 18,000 employees in the U.S. and 15,000 in Europe, HCL is a global company and has deep expertise in computing, said Sukamal Banerjee, a vice president. It has won business from Boeing on that basis, not on price, he said: “We came from a strong R&D background.”

Still, for the 787, HCL gave Boeing a remarkable price – free, according to Sam Swaro, an associate vice president who pitched HCL’s services at a San Diego conference sponsored by Avionics International magazine in June. He said the company took no up-front payments on the 787 and only started collecting payments based on sales years later, an “innovative business model” he offered to extend to others in the industry.

The 787 entered service three years late and billions of dollars over budget in 2011, in part because of confusion introduced by the outsourcing strategy. Under Dennis Muilenburg, a longtime Boeing engineer who became chief executive in 2015, the company has said that it planned to bring more work back in-house for its newest planes.

Engineer Backwater

The Max became Boeing’s top seller soon after it was offered in 2011. But for ambitious engineers, it was something of a “backwater,” said Peter Lemme, who designed the 767’s automated flight controls and is now a consultant. The Max was an update of a 50-year-old design, and the changes needed to be limited enough that Boeing could produce the new planes like cookie cutters, with few changes for either the assembly line or airlines. “As an engineer that’s not the greatest job,” he said.

Rockwell Collins, now a unit of United Technologies Corp., won the Max contract for cockpit displays, and it has relied in part on HCL engineers in India, Iowa and the Seattle area. A United Technologies spokeswoman didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Contract engineers from Cyient helped test flight test equipment. Charles LoveJoy, a former flight-test instrumentation design engineer at the company, said engineers in the U.S. would review drawings done overnight in India every morning at 7:30 a.m. “We did have our challenges with the India team,” he said. “They met the requirements, per se, but you could do it better.”

Multiple investigations – including a Justice Department criminal probe – are trying to unravel how and when critical decisions were made about the Max’s software. During the crashes of Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines planes that killed 346 people, investigators suspect, the MCAS system pushed the planes into uncontrollable dives because of bad data from a single sensor.

That design violated basic principles of redundancy for generations of Boeing engineers, and the company apparently never tested to see how the software would respond, Lemme said. “It was a stunning fail,” he said. “A lot of people should have thought of this problem – not one person – and asked about it.”

Boeing also has disclosed that it learned soon after Max deliveries began in 2017 that a warning light that might have alerted crews to the issue with the sensor wasn’t installed correctly in the flight-display software. A Boeing statement in May, explaining why the company didn’t inform regulators at the time, said engineers had determined it wasn’t a safety issue.

“Senior company leadership,” the statement added, “was not involved in the review.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Peter Robison in Seattle at robison@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Flynn McRoberts at fmcroberts1@bloomberg.net, Susan Warren

For more articles like this, please visit us at bloomberg.com

©2019 Bloomberg L.P.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Shame Boy posted:

Here it is adjusted for inflation:



When it started it was the equivalent of just four dollars an hour in 2018 dollars

Oooh look at that, it was the best in the late 60s early 70s, what a surprise

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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://i.imgur.com/QS7pS57.mp4

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