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people are doing the thing and I'm stuck at werk
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2018 14:05 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 00:20 |
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yeah the main themes here seem overwhelmingly to concern issues with separation. You've got Kris-Asriel, Toriel-Asgore, Undyne-Alphys, King-Son, potentially Sans-Papyrus, and various others like the cat and gator ladies — not to mention kris's soul and body. Hell, having an odd number of characters all having partners in the classroom feels off, and none of these separations really make sense other than they're just this way. That poo poo being painful is gonna probably be our core motif. Good on the gay knight bros hanging out in front of the lake not having this problem
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2018 07:35 |
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oh no apparently there are minor differences between the save state slots regardless of the state of your save. Only confirmed that the drawer in Kris' room on Asriel's side has a different item in it, but the item is dependent on which save slot you use and not the actual state of your save. It changes if you copy your save to a different slot. the items aren't really super relevant; slots 1 2 and 3 are "A torn cross country shirt", "A school photo ID with an embarrassing haircut", and "A coupon book for pizza (all expired)" if I were toby I'd throw that in just to piss people off, but we've got some time before we could call this a red herring or chekhov's gun
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 02:12 |
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toby wrote the basis of the hidden boss fight text script in may 2012 with susie art files from jul-aug 2013. There's probably a good bit of stuff completed or being finalized, with some potentially having being worked on alongside undertale's original release. The kickstarter for undertale was started jun 2013, with its official release Sep 2015.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 03:50 |
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man this whole alternate route thing really puts a spin on all the ICE-E poo poo you see everywhere
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2021 06:35 |
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one thing that's funny with all the dialog choices is the scenes with susie's choices never change anything. The different choices don't even have minor effects on the following dialogue.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 05:42 |
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Flesnolk posted:I think you're only an outright villain in Side B I figure it's like undertale in that it's a different entity that drives different playthroughs i do prefer this side b greatly to genocide; a lovely person here could say they're not corrupting or manipulating an innocent, they're just helping their friend be more assertive
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 19:17 |
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Roobanguy posted:i have a feeling Toby really hated people saying that “chara” was controlling frisk in the genocide ending. There’s a reason why in this one you name the vessel, and then it asks you to input your real name while also telling you to accept all responsibilities for what happens afterwards. There’s no one else to put the blame on for choices you the player make. "Your hands are clean"
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 19:46 |
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Two Inch Bee posted:Presuming that the bead represents Berdly, this sort of echoes the end of the Spamton NEO fight, where Spamton "dies" when all his strings are cut. The course of a character's life is predetermined and not under their control, and death is the only way we see characters "break free" from that. Grim stuff! Of course, we're only two chapters in, so we may see that theme evolve further over time. we're gonna be visiting death pretty closely; the nature of heaven, the church, and angels —lots of stuff to look forward to on that end. kaleedity fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Sep 21, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 21:09 |
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that immune to mice message is no joke. Noelle can 1 turn 100% them for free afterwards. I do think you have to dodge all the cheese and backtrack after the immunity puzzle to see that, though.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2021 06:32 |
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I interpreted the prophecy as you're saving Ralsei's dark world and bringing it into balance. The "earth" dies, but we're not saving that; we're saving the "world"
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2021 19:23 |
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comedy option is ralsei seeking to cover the world in darkness as the earth is destroyed re: his prophecy but this is literally what all affected or involved want anyway so it remains unironically good. The only tricks are to ensure the darkness is his so that others don't mess it up
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2021 22:11 |
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Larryb posted:So during the Susie and Noelle scene it seems telling her she’s in the Dark World makes Noelle think the whole thing is a dream for the entire rest of the chapter. How does she react if you tell her she’s in Queen’s castle? giving susie a direction in a susie scene never changes any outcome iirc
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2021 02:14 |
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i don't think gaster's the angel. he doesn't seem angel-y.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2021 06:07 |
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wellp, I was looking for something unrelated and found something new. The weird thing is this doesn't exist in my current end-game saves. I had to load a save before the last queen fight and to defeat her, at least after this recent patch. Now in the "real" world I have a third item, glass. When you INFO it, you get "There is a small shard of something in your pocket \\ It feels like glass, but..." I'm not sure if this is referencing beating all of the bosses, but I already had a save in the end game after beating them and I don't have it there. You can use the glass and you get a few different messages; when you're alone in the library after waking up : You looked through the glass. For some strange reason, for just a brief moment. . . You thought you saw through your hand. Afterwards, you get a different message if you're with Susie: You looked through the glass. For some strange reason, for just a brief moment. . . You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly. . . But when you moved the glass away, You see her looking at you, smiling and making a rude gesture. I thought it might have been referencing the stuff you bundled up in the library, but no, it's still there after you drop queen off. It's not in any of my prior saves with the same completion! (full recruit, safe Berdly, 2 defeated secret bosses)
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 20:11 |
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dyzzy posted:It's the shadow crystal from beating spamton, I think it was patched in that would make sense but it's just weird it's not in the save with the same state, saved later.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 20:24 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:Did you talk to Seam in that save? He takes them if you talk to him. yep that's what it is. That's a strange interaction. hmmmmm.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 21:08 |
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Blaziken386 posted:interestingly, if you examine it in the dark world (it's the shadow crystal), you instead get a description of the computer lab. either way, seems like you can only see through it once...? i wonder of there's an alternative reward for collecting all of them but NOT giving them to seam? want to work toward uber optional boss collection but also want to read all these weird descriptions of items in the overworld. dammit toby i need more saves
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2021 04:31 |
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ralsei is the prince of darkness; he is trying his best
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2021 05:48 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:"But Kris drugs are illegal." notably this is how you progress into LV. 3 Dank Prince
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2021 15:22 |
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2021 19:55 |
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so if you're the skeletal younger brother of a skeleton, does that mean that your former human (were you human before?) was born first, or that you were raised/created first? very important questions that I don't see being asked
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2021 01:06 |
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I'm just waiting for the game to call Noelle's memory condition a whiteout.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2021 18:28 |
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Capfalcon posted:Amazing. it's neat that the darkner-lightner "purpose" is probably tied to the same reason why monsters are buried with specific items
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2021 18:48 |
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One tiny detail that almost certainly means nothing that's loving with me: When Kris goes heartless there's this repeated clacking noise when he moves. The same sound is made once right when Noelle snaps and stands up to queen to tell her off post final battle.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2021 02:01 |
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Nebalebadingdong posted:i really liked asgore in undertale and felt like he gets a raw deal at the end no matter what path you're on it's gonna be weird watching a bunch of old darkner flowerpeople compete for the attention of the most divorced video game character
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2021 21:52 |
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I'm just excited to get some monster-human relations exposition through the conflicts or interactions between anthropomorphized cookie cutters
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 20:10 |
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jevil is the best dadjoke pun on "freecell"
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2021 21:14 |
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2021 23:51 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 00:20 |
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the answer is inside me
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2022 02:15 |