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Covok posted:We won! They lost! For gently caress sake, be happy you covoking broke brains. SOME OF US LIVE IN FLORIDA and really don't like being told "Be happy!" after what happened last night.
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Covok posted:Okay, that's fair. "Why is everyone upset, you had expectations WAY too high!" is some goddamn bullshit after we saw the positive polling numbers for Gillum/Nelson get demolished. Florida going full chud was NOT expected and I have a right to be loving angry about it.
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Nov 7, 2018 15:56
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big boi posted:I can confirm that these suck and you should stop Seriously, just make a Twitter account that does the PPJ tweetdump and link anyone who's interested in it to that instead, they clog up the thread and actively disrupt discussion. If you want nothing but Tweets, go on Twitter, this shouldn't be a controversial thing to say.
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Nov 7, 2018 16:35
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CuddleCryptid posted:Man, can you drowsy ducks be happy for five minutes Can you not tell me how I'm allowed to feel? Like, not only do I live in Florida, all of my family does, I'm allowed to be sad and gently caress off with everyone who's trying to force me to smile about this bullshit.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:22
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Solkanar512 posted:You’re not allowed to generalize that doom and gloom to everything else at large. I'm not? I'm just telling the "Why is everyone not happy?" people a major reason why I am not happy Also stop trying to police people's emotions, it's really rude and hosed up.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:41
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Solkanar512 posted:What’s rude and hosed up is you shouting down all the hard work that was done and the successful results of that hard work. You come in here and take a massive poo poo on all of that and it serves no purpose. Please quote me where I did anything of the sort, you are reading poo poo into my posts that simply is not there. You're being a real loving rear end in a top hat right now, you know that? It's not enough that I vote for Dems, now I have to be happy when the Dems lose my state?
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Nov 7, 2018 17:45
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evilweasel posted:Almost certainly (unless Florida governors serve a 2 year term, which I doubt but also don't know for certain It's a 4 year term. Also no one is bringing up that Gillum had an extremely stupid own goal with accepting a free Hamilton ticket and trip that got him involved in an FBI investigation. Probably explains the lack of votes when compared to Nelson, who is a known if boring quantity.
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Nov 8, 2018 18:31
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mcmagic posted:What about Desantis' own goal of being an open white nationalist and Trumpist bootlicker? Yes, obviously the GOP candidate was loving godawful but as recent history has shown us, GOP voters do not care one iota about how terrible their candidates are as long as they trigger the libs. Dem voters might care more about things like having integrity and not accepting free tickets/trips from rich campaign donors.
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Nov 8, 2018 18:35
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Lightning Knight posted:Was this heavily publicized in Florida, enough to swing the race at the last second? Yes, DeSantis ran many many ads highlighting it. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article220729745.html quote:After Gillum won the primary, his campaign held focus groups to test just how damaging the coming attacks on the FBI investigation would be. His Democratic opponents never raised the issue, so Gillum’s team gathered voters to hear about details of the probe and then watch recorded interviews of Gillum defending himself. The outcome: voters had questions, but felt reassured when they heard Gillum’s explanations.
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Nov 8, 2018 18:37
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think racism is more of a factor than the FBI stuff. I think when an election is this close, you have to look at every factor and a candidate creating his own scandal is definitely something that could swing a close election. Florida voted for Obama both times, I don't think it's as irredeemably racist as you think it is.
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Nov 8, 2018 18:40
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plogo posted:I don't know that AOC's views on ubi are that relevant. Whether its a federal jobs guarantee, ubi, whatever, the dems don't even control the senate much less a super majority. In another 4 to 6 years aoc can discuss the details, but why bother now? Signaling she is on the right team is enough. Because to get ideas accepted by the public you have to start talking about them way before you're ready to implement them.
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Nov 10, 2018 17:16
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plogo posted:We are talking about them, but why does she have to pin down the details? When the time comes for a bill I don't think it matters at all whether she was for UBI or a jobs guarantee now in 2018. It's not about "juice" it's about shifting the Overton Window. Before people were talking about Medicare For All, the only possibly option for expanding healthcare was fixing the ACA, now suddenly M4A is in the conversation. This is how you get UBI into the national conversation, you have politicians talk about it. Then normal people, not political nerds like us who follow all this poo poo on a daily basis, can go "Oh hey I heard about this UBI thing in the news, sounds neat!" and that's how you shift opinion on things.
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Nov 10, 2018 17:39
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plogo posted:No it wasn't. There were always many dem proposals to healthcare going back to the days of ted kennedy fighting with jimmy carter. Oh, word? They must have worked out great, because of all that awesome healthcare we have. You're discounting my argument to make a cheap technicality own. I'm trying to explain why it's important to talk about stuff like UBI now, and you're saying "well we've been talking about healthcare for a long time" yes thank you for proving my point.
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Nov 10, 2018 17:48
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plogo posted:So why should AOC care about the distinction between UBI and a Federal Jobs Guarantee, right now? It doesn't matter so why pick a policy position between two broadly similar policies that aren't gonna happen? I already explained why and you blew past my answer to attempt a cheap dunk, so I think you're never going to accept my premise about talking about things being important to shaping national opinion on said things. Also, as is frequently said in this thread, we can do more than one thing at a time. She can talk about these issues while also talking about others and doing her actual job in Congress as well.
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Nov 10, 2018 18:03
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Doctor Butts posted:I think parts of ICE should exist, such as customs, but their immigration poo poo is out of control and is probably best to scrap altogether. You realize we had customs enforcement before ICE ever existed, right?
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Nov 14, 2018 18:09
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Tibalt posted:I dunno man, when you've got people calling for the death of pharma executives because a drug is too expensive to keep in production, I suspect that people have a bad read on this simple situation. "I suspect that people have a bad read on this simple situation" I say as I advocate for Hitler (D) and assure others that Better Things Are Not Possible. I'm the sensible adult in the room. Shut the gently caress up, you worthless loving bootlicker piece of poo poo
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Nov 20, 2018 17:06
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Condiv posted:https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/ I think it's fairly telling that the people who were arguing against Condiv haven't responded to this post at all.
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Nov 24, 2018 03:04
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Skex posted:Get some loving therapy because injustice has been a part of the human condition for as long as humans have been and the way that it is looking it will be that way for short amount of time we have left. And in the end we are all loving dead forgotten either way. What a shock, the ur-centrist is a huge believer in the Just World fallacy. "Injustice is just a rule of nature, loving deal with it" is not an inspiring message to those who are being treated unjustly.
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Nov 24, 2018 16:32
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Cerebral Bore posted:What is it with the hardcore centrist fanboy brigade members constantly outing themselves as defenders of literal loving sweatshops? Sweatshops reduced poverty, poverty bad, therefore, sweatshops good! And if something is good, it clearly must the best possible way to accomplish anything. There's no way we could have reduced poverty without sweatshops, otherwise we wouldn't live in this, the best possible of all worlds! Words can't express how loving gross someone like Fulchrum is, full of bile and spite for everyone an inch to the left of him because he thinks they're the reason for all the ills in the world, while lacking all empathy for anyone actually suffering because all the facts and figures agree that net suffering is down, so what are you complaining about, peasant? You would prefer LESS gruel, that's what you're saying? I'm thankful for the amount of gruel I get! E: VVV Maybe we "rehash the same poo poo constantly" because some posters can't help but unload nuclear hot takes about how the status quo is amazing and deserved to be challenged instead of just existing in an echo chamber. WampaLord fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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Nov 25, 2018 23:39
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GreyjoyBastard posted:eg if we take Lightning Knight's posts in the last couple pages at face value, he thinks we should shut down the government until and unless McConnell blows up the filibuster rather than provide any amount of money for any form of border security This is a really loving lovely thing to do, I just want to say for the record. Framing being anti-wall as "he doesn't want to provide any money for border security" is some seriously hosed up logic, it is not an "internally consistent position" it is a strawman argument so you can knock it down and appear to be the reasonable one. "Gee, how do I keep earning these corn cob avs?" asks the person disingenuous enough to pull this poo poo.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:16
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eke out posted:except he straightup said we should shut down the government rather than vote for additional 'border security'? That still doesn't say what GreyjoyBastard said LK said. Christ, gently caress all of you centrist fucktards, more concerned about being technically correct than having any morality or empathy.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:24
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean truth be told this is effectively what I was arguing. I will admit to having been misled by the reporter tweet and also being really angry about what I understood the reporter to mean. I stand by the idea that Democrats voting for border security at this point is anathema to what we should stand for, and if the Republicans wanted more border security to keep the government open, they control both chambers and the presidency until next year, gently caress 'em. Why do they need Democratic votes to keep the government open? Fair enough, I apologize for mistaking the conversation luxury handset posted:lol Go gently caress yourself, boner confessor. You loving sold out and you know it, so you act lovely towards leftists who still believe what you used to believe because they make you realize you're a sellout. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 28, 2018 00:27
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eviltastic posted:And as near as I can tell, it's a third of the campaigns on gofundme that are medical, not a third of their revenue, although there's obviously going to be a relationship there. But this is presented as though they're taking a cut, when that's not how it works. How do you think GoFundMe makes money?
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Ogmius815 posted:Now, it’s nuts that we’re still talking about it now , and that’s thanks to the Dem leadership. And they certainly deserve some criticism. But there’s no need to turn on good people going a good job like AOC and Pelosi so viciously over this. It only hurts the party. Some mean posts on Something Awful do not "hurt the party" you lunatic. Criticising politicians is good, it's how they get better. Ogmius815 posted:It may indeed be true that AIPAC uses money and political influence to support a pro-Israel political interest (it is true, and as you point out they would agree that is the point of their organization) but loving lmao
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