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Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Oxxidation posted:

because it gets them paid

people have this persistent belief that the democratic leadership is just ignorant when in fact they're doing their jobs, i.e., the thing that gets them paid

when pelosi talks about bipartisanship and returning to the status quo she's talking to her employers, not to you

FYI this is why she should not be speaker.

She's great at whipping the Democrats but she's pretty much beholden to the same corporate interests driving the Republican party down the CHUD hole so they can pillage the country. Her being speaker essentially means the house is liable to end up being controlled opposition. Which means that anything to do with Trump/Republican corruption and gerrymandering/voter suppression on the house's end will just be sound and air instead of actually effective.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Nov 7, 2018

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Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Rectal Death Adept posted:

I will unless the Democrats put up the worst candidate possible for a third time. Then me and the DNC will need to have a sit down where I explain that the Clown President is more preferable to me then way they choose to do things.

I mean, just enabling them because of their party name hasn't worked out too great lately.

Speaking as someone who may very well have their access to any healthcare whatsoever denied to them entirely if the Republicans keep the presidency (or failing that will require an executive order to get it back) i'd just like to say gently caress you and please emigrate to somewhere else that will tolerate being burdened by your stupidity and sheltered privilege. If this is really what you plan on doing then your presence in the US is literally helping to contribute to things getting worse for pretty much everyone.

My life and the lives of all the other people out there that are affected by the Republicans and their bigoted, selfish, and often outright childish crap aren't worth your desire to "send a message" that the Third Way wing of the Democrats will never receive, hear, or care about to begin with.

And to be clear, this is not hyperbole. Voting for Trump or the Republicans literally, literally puts blood on your hands through the legislation they craft. If they get their way i'll be legislated straight into the grave in the next five to ten years tops due to not being able to get access to any sort of healthcare when I get sick.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Nov 10, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Chilichimp posted:

Pence is also a loving moron, so I doubt the'd get away with much more... at least the gaslighting would stop.

He doesn't need to get away with more. All he needs to do is sign more executive orders loving over LGBT people and denying them care through it and the trans suicide rate alone will probably shoot up from the current 40% to over 50%.

Dude is a monster that's been working hand in hand with a whole bunch of far right "christian" think thanks and groups dedicated to basically purging the country of anyone not like themselves for years. Stop saying he'd be better because he absolutely wouldn't. Heck, it may be why he was picked. Since it doesn't take a genius to realize that if Trump gets ousted that he'd be next up for power. And relying on Mueller to take him down too is dangerous for a whole lot of people.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Party Plane Jones posted:



ah garrison you are truly the worst

That face with her holding the egg is some serious avatar material.

Also, i'm beginning to see where the Onion got it's parody comics from.


Edit: It's like he was trying to cross Ocasio's face with his depictions of Obama and Michelle. Hell, I swear i've seen Garrison use that same face to depict them in the past. Which is kinda racist as gently caress when you think about it.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Nov 13, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Also, I like how the majority of that Garrison comic is basically making GBS threads on someone who says that they want to save the world but that it's going to cost money to do it.

And then it goes on to equate saving the world with marxism (and by extension being selfish and greedy like the character in the movie that Garrison subbed Ocasio in for. Which...Uh, is exactly the opposite of what Ocasio is about to say the least.) because why the gently caress not when you're that deep down the CHUD hole?

That's kind of a self own on top of all the other problematic poo poo about that comic.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Nov 13, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Ms Adequate posted:

I doubt it too, but she's making an extremely game effort.


It's truly incredible, especially because she has extremely powerful Millennial energy and every single time they take a shot at her, she leaps into loving orbit to slam a Chaos Dunk upon them.

The point isn't that they're obsessed. It's to muddy the waters and taint the things she's for by association down the line. The point is to sling enough poo poo that people treat her the same way that most low information or outright stupid people do when it comes to Hillary, Obama, Bernie, etc, etc after multiple consecutive years of corrupt corporate interests running smear campaigns from behind our politicians and media voices.

This is also why Fox keeps harping on about "radical" things (like Fox consistently claims) like a living wage that lets you not die in the gutter, health care that won't bankrupt the average person, etc, etc. If you've read up on how the ACA was handled PR wise then you'll also note that the ACA went through a similar process (Remember the death panels bullshit?) during the attempts to get put into law and after it went into effect.

It's just that a nation wide policy is harder to gently caress with in terms of disinformation campaigns since everyone can see how it works. Hence why so many Republican politicians were confused at the various town halls full of pissed off geriatrics that didn't want to lose it once they realized what it was. And also why they just stopped showing up and started having right wing media types like Fox and Limbaugh hammer even harder that people shouldn't shouldn't want any sort of healthcare. All while plowing ahead with repeal attempts and sabotaging pieces of it once they realized they couldn't easily con their base on that point.

The idea is that when she has to deal with the next election people will either vote against their own interests because of a multi-year haze of bullshit that has them saying "Huh, but there's something untrustworthy about her!" from a multitude of lies "negative reports" or that she'll be like most of the centrist types and be intimidated into falling in line with the corporate lobbyists. The latter of which basically amounts to supporting strip mining the generational wealth of the US's citizens over time.


Edit: poo poo, this is exactly the same trick the same sort of people would pull on climate change scientists for about 50 years now. In fact, going off climate change's history of fighting a never ending line up of corrupt denialists it isn't even as far as things can escalate.

From what I vaguely recall of my history at one point the Republicans were at one point threatening to lock up some of the most prominent scientists in the field at the time for daring to tell the truth about how bad things were going to get during a congressional investigation. This was then used years down the line by some denialists to justify how crazy and corrupt the climate change scientists trying to fix things were once those events had faded from the public consciousness and progress was starting to be made to hopefully fix the issue in the future.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Nov 24, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Saint Celestine posted:

You know, the heart transplant letter and your comment about the 2nd amendment...

They literally made a movie about this exact situation -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Q.

The film tells the story of John Quincy Archibald (Denzel Washington), a father and husband whose son is diagnosed with an enlarged heart and finds out he is unable to receive a transplant because HMO insurance will not cover it, before he decides to hold up the hospital and force them to do it.

You know your health care system is super hosed when they make movies about people forcing doctors to do operations by gunpoint and its not set in ww2.

I remember prior to the ACA that there were literal death panels. Like, no joke. I'd be surprised if that wasn't where the Republicans got that conspiracy theory from.

Pre-existing condition protections are important since you'd get your granny or other sick person getting a letter where a bunch of suits from your insurance company decided that it was just too expensive to fulfill their obligations despite having been paid to do just that for 20-30 years by that person.

If you'd dig around you could find articles/obituaries to that effect, some of which were posted on SA back then. And were sometimes accompanied by an ending of "And then this person died by trying to drive a truck through the restaurant/house they thought they or people like them were attending. We have no idea why this nice person would do this!". So yeah. It wasn't like it was even that beneficial or safe for those sort of profiteering scumbags too.

Given that letter it seems like those sort of parasites have finally started to adapt to the ACA. :stonk:

Archonex fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Nov 24, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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As a side note, Aetna tried similar poo poo in many states after the ACA was put into law. They'd sign on to be a healthcare/medicare provider and then opt out of paying for just about anything. essentially defrauding the system. Sometimes outright illegally so. All while whining about how it was unfair that they couldn't maintain their profit margins thanks to the ACA and doing everything they could to slander it and any politicians or organizations that caught them in the act.


Incidentally, Aetna was forcibly taken off the market for at least a bit in a few states. Mine included, at the time. So at least the ACA accomplished something.

Of course it's 2018 and they're still doing this poo poo in states where their governments don't care or the laws weren't amended sufficiently in light of the ACA to punish them for their behavior.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/14/17013944/voxcare-aetna-scandal

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/11/health/aetna-california-investigation/index.html

https://www.compassphs.com/blog/health-plan-management/aetna-scandal-illustrates-employers-foot-bill/

https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/10/d-c-fines-aetna-violating-privacy-disclosing-patients-hiv-status/

Archonex fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Nov 24, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Huh. The new Black Mirror episodes are looking pretty good.


Edit: Why do they have what looks like paper mache riot face plates mounted on top of them?

Archonex fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Nov 27, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Condiv posted:

is it not a handmaiden's tale reference? that's what i thought it was

Not sure that's it since they aren't dressed up like they're a century or two in the past. But maybe the look for that sort of thing has changed since the Handmaidens Tale came out?

I for one am quietly horrified impressed that the more the trees get out of the shot the more they look like they've been hosed down in gore.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Help Im Alive posted:

Melania's hell christmases are probably the most likable thing about her

For real. For all the jokes I made about those displays they're legitimately cool looking in that way that'd make you stop and go "What the heck?".

The idea that the first lady is setting up nightmarish trees in the White House that look like someone shaped congealed gore/meat is uh...Not so much comforting. But yeah. Props for the kick rear end goth christmas decorations.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Typo posted:

Poland doesn't have good enough of an army to beat Russia

If russian tanks start crossing the polish border then yeah 100% Germany will intervene unilaterally even if rest of NATO doesn't, but is Merkel gonna go to war over dead Polish soldiers in Estonia if the whole thing is over in like 4 weeks? And then Putin says Estonia is now part of Russia and he's gonna defend it just like he defends Moscow (aka threatening to use nukes if he loses)

idk of Merkel is gonna risk berlin getting nuked over a few thousand dead Poles in Estonia

Not to be a dick, but I kind of doubt any of that would happen. If Putin tried the "It's ours now, we'll nuke you if you try to take back the territory we unlawfully invaded." trick he'd basically be starting a second cold war. Pretty much all of Russia's neighbors and rivals would conspire to gently caress them economically and maybe even militarily in that scenario. Barring the US at the moment, that is.

China in particular would probably lose it's poo poo barring some sort of backroom deal. Since they're the other big global competitor that'd possibly stand to lose something from a militarily expansionist Russia basically saying "gently caress the rules. It's time to risk starting WW3.".


Keep in mind that Obama's administration supposedly caused Putin and the oligarchs that run Russia to lose their poo poo just by economically sanctioning them for a few years. That sort of situation could very well end up cratering their economy again. Especially once we don't have what's effectively a manchurian candidate dedicated to loving over the populace in office.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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nine-gear crow posted:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1069777303729786882

2018 whipping out the AR-15 and screaming "YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE, FUCKERS!" in its final weeks :psyduck:

Wait. Is Tumblr really going to go through with committing business suicide over them not wanting to actually police for child porn like Reddit ended up being forced to do? The porn and adult communities are the only thing left keeping Tumblr going at this point. Just about anyone that actually wanted to use Tumblr for non porn activities moved off to Facebook or Twitter years ago.


Also something i've read that's only rarely getting mentioned in all of this is that LGBT supportive content is apparently being reclassified as "adult". So anyone that comes out as gay or trans has to risk getting banned on the service. Which is pretty frigging awful all around and makes it seem like the CEO or whoever made this decision is just a hilariously awful conservative shithead that would rather burn the business to the ground rather than go after child porn.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Dec 4, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Serfer posted:

If you remove porn and lgbtq content from tumblr... what's left?

Nazi and extreme right wing content I guess?

Though even they won't touch it for the most part since Tumblr is synonymous with the concept of SJW's. Hell, "Tumblr SJW" used to be an insult for those sort of people.


Edit: I still can't stop laughing about how loving stupid this is. Apparently this whole thing is due to them not policing for child porn and Apple throwing a poo poo fit about it (And also adult content in general since Apple is apparently super draconian about that.). So instead of actually hiring someone to handle reviews and the banning of that content like they should have in the first place they're just going to commit social media suicide on a grandiose level by annihilating what communities they have left.

Which means that whoever runs Tumblr at the moment would literally rather burn the business to the ground rather than meet the bare minimum half-assed policing and banning standards that Reddit was forced to adhere too after their lovely chud-esque kiddy porn subgroups got caught out in the light of the press. What's more, they're using this an excuse to go after LGBT community members. What an incredibly lovely business.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Dec 4, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Mr Interweb posted:

Please don't criticize me too harshly for living under quite the large rock all this time, but tumblr was used primarily for...porn? I was only familiar with its rep as ground zero for SJW-ism (hence the term "tumblrinas").

Not just porn. Tumblr had a huge LGBTQ community as well. Ditto for a pro-feminist community and a pro-sex community that was pretty firmly against any sort of bigotry. That being what helped piss off the chud types into co-opting the word SJW into an insult way back when.

Interestingly enough after digging around it seems like this ban is mistargeting those groups as well. However, i'm kinda doubtful it's a mistake given that there's apparently a history of Tumblr not wanting the progressive and minority non-porn groups around. I recall hearing about how transgender issues and blogs were automatically flagged as "adult content" quite awhile ago. Meaning that you literally could not see them at all without a direct link. Ditto for some feminist stuff.

Also, this means that anyone who is LGBTQ is at risk of and/or concerned about getting summarily banned since they're ditching the adult content section they were shunted off too.
Which is monumentally lovely.

Basically, TL;DR: It seems like someone high up in Tumblr puts Jack on Twitter to shame when it comes to being a regressive shithead.


As for what precipitated this: My understanding is that much like Reddit Tumblr actively ignored child porn propagating on it's platform for years (The aforementioned hiding of adult content didn't get rid of it. It just hid it so that no one could see just how much was going on and demand that they put a stop to it. Which is also immensely lovely and highly suspect. Basically, they managed to out-Reddit Reddit in being creepy and scummy about that stuff on their platform.) until it propagated so much that even their slap-dash filtering system lead to it spilling out into the public far in advance of any other pornographic content out there.

Keep in mind the aforementioned spillage of horrifying kiddie porn occurred in full view of anyone that owned the Apple Store version of Tumblr's app. Meaning that Apple promptly lost it's poo poo and proceeded to ban the Tumblr app from their platform. Since who the gently caress wants the stigma of that on their platform? Heck, part of the agreement that Apple has with software developers is that if you have a social media element in your app that sort of thing cannot be permitted on your platform. So Tumblr had to of known they were ignoring a fairly huge issue and were just gambling that no one would ever call them on their behavior.

Instead of dealing with this in a rational and sane way by taking responsibility for their gently caress ups and getting the kiddie porn off of the platform once and for all the company executives at Tumblr are pretty much burning the entire platform to the ground in favor of...Well, I don't even know. Maybe they're hoping it becomes the next Gab? It seems like someone is throwing the business equivalent of a suicidal tantrum in the hopes that they get back on the IOS store and don't die of severe depopulation in the next few years. Notably male nudity isn't mentioned in the banned content. So maybe they're hoping for some wholesome gay soft core porn? Who the gently caress even knows at this point.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Dec 4, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Crabtree posted:

I don't think there is a fetish yet for being atomized by lasers so strike while the irony's not there.

My friend, perhaps you should google a little something called Rule 34...

You should absolutely not google a little something called Rule 34.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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STAC Goat posted:

D&D is intent to end 2018 by getting me to understand what the gently caress a SonicFox vs "ant man" twitter gamer feud is.

SonicFox is ridiculously good at video games and is gay, black, and apparently a furry. This enrages conservatives since between being LGBT, being black, being a furry, and being better at them than their hobby (and profession in the case of the ant man) he's basically their personal nightmare made manifest. After all, it's not so fun to punch down when the other guy is demonstrably better than you at the thing you value so much.

SonicFox goes on to get an award for being ridiculously good at video games (Literally an award saying he's the best that year) and points out during the awards speech that his continued existence/not being wiped from existence by that sort of conservative/Republican infuriates them. CHUD Gamers and Gamergaters lead by an equally repugnant guy (Who didn't win the award.) who thinks it's acceptable to live in an ant infested dump (that was literally so nasty they lived in the bed he slept in) take deep offense to being casually called out on what lovely people they are and desperately try to concoct a reason why they aren't poo poo stains while trying to bully the gay, black, furry into submission. SonicFox then proceeds to troll the hell out of them as they get angrier and angrier and are increasingly desperate to justify their lovely life choices.

That's about what I gathered so far. Dehumanize yourself and face to 2018.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Dec 9, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

The dragon of budapest

Where does this joke come from?

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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How much did Beto lose by anyways? Because there's some really hinky poo poo going on with Texas's voting machines.

Not that I don't think he wasn't astroturfed as heck. But him losing to Cruz when the voting machines will literally reassign your vote to Republican if you vote straight Democrat probably caught more than a few people in the year when there was a huge D turnout. The issues with their voting machines are basically built to foil surprise D turnouts like that since a good chunk of the state reliably votes R but not always straight ticket.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Dec 14, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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theflyingorc posted:

There was very little evidence of widespread vote manipulation in Texas. He probably wins without voter suppression, though.

Acting like his swing in Texas wasn't because he was a very good candidate is crazy. Ted shouldn't have had to even worry.

Actually, from what I recall there's a long-acknowledged issue with the machines in some parts of the state where if you vote straight party your votes count for the opposite party.

The state Republicans have no intention of fixing this despite knowing and even admitting it exists because the glitch favors their party when it comes to them potentially being pushed out of office. Since any surprise turnout like that is more likely to vote straight party and the Republican base are fairly consistent in their turnout this means that it fucks with the Democrats first and foremost by having votes for Democrats go to Republicans instead.

It's not vote manipulation in the standard sense, but it's definitely an issue. There were posts on twitter from people enraged that their votes were being changed back during the election. Given that and the close margin it's not too hard to think that he might have won (or pulled even closer) had the state had proper means to account for votes.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Dec 14, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Lightning Knight posted:

Nah that's actually really fuckin' arguable and also Russia and China flatly aren't in a position to execute empire on the scale we do nor will they be for decades at minimum. They can't just wish upon a star for a dozen aircraft carriers and trillions of dollars of advanced equipment.

Russia and China are literally existent walking, talking, humanitarian crises in the form of semi-functioning nation states.

China is supposedly bringing back the old Mao era forced labor camps that function to essentially genocide unwanted parts of the populace for fucks sakes. And Russia's such a dysfunctional authoritarian kleptocracy that the leaders of it think nothing of helping to bring back the nazis (despite the fact that they'd declare war on them in a heartbeat if they managed to get real power) so long as it means they can gently caress over their neighbors and rivals just a little bit more. And that's not getting into their human rights abuses when it comes to their minority population.

I don't know what you think the world would look like under them but I gotta tell you that it'd be a hell of a lot worse than the US's intermittent bouts of "Well, let's go gently caress around in the Middle East for a bit to drum up the base and keep our jobs!" dumbassery.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Dec 21, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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not a cult posted:

A forever war without and end in sight is a "bout of dumbassery".

We've interfered more than just in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Given the choice of the current lovely geopolitical situation or the far worse situation of Russia succeeding in doing their damnedest to get people into power all over the world that would put minorities both racial and LGBT in literal loving genocide camps (And in the case of some countries have parties literally wanting to do just that atm.) i'll go with the lesser evil for the time being. Both are remarkably lovely, but one is far worse of an evil than the other.

I mean, what do you think the world's gonna look like if a nation like Russia has it's way and becomes the next global hegemony? Right now they're doing everything they can to destabilize the EU and US by helping far right authoritarian types get into power. It's not just going to be an empty "if/or" binary where one side wins and nothing else happens. There's going to be consequences, and the current policy is going to affect things going forwards. And that's not even getting into what it'd do for the rights of people all across the world to have either of those two powers calling the shots in the background.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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archangelwar posted:

Russia is an unstoppable turbo-monster while simultaneously crippled into inaction by sanctions. China is capable of conquering the world which is why the most they have done the last couple of decades is grab a fake island.

Hell, China would not even possess as much economic power over southeast asia if it weren't for the US loving up TPP.

No one is saying that. The point is that they're using non-military means of intervening in other countries affairs. Which is a far more insidious sort of means of control given how the people in charge of those two countries look at their own population. Not that it justifies the US's means of pursuing a global hegemony, but you're out of your goddamn mind if you think that their means of control doesn't have a lot of loving horror behind it too. They're both terrible in some pretty nasty ways.

It's a different sort of global hegemony, but one the world is evidently quite susceptible too at the moment. The cost of it is that when successful it puts people into power that are often anti human rights at best and outright genocidal at worst.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Lightning Knight posted:

Do you like, know the kind of people we liked to put into power in other countries? There's an entire political party in the US that is dedicated to eliminating LGBT people which until recently controlled every level of government lol, it's not like we have a better track record here. You can't sit here and go on about the evil people Russia puts into power and just sweep Pinochet under the rug, for example.

Last I checked, we didn't recently try to put our muslim population into literal re-education through labor death camps. Or straight up have progressives assassinated in the modern era if they dare to speak out against the government in the case of Russia. Or even exist at all, in the case of Chechnya and the purges that happened over there. Likewise, even with the Republicans in power and being their lovely selves there's been a tremendous outcry against their bullshit. Over there? They just get disappeared half the time.

Personally, speaking, i'd rather not live in a world where i'm at risk of being murdered for the dire crime of being born different. And that looks a hell of a lot more likely if those two nations get to have an uncontested say when it comes to the policies of other nations on a global scale.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Dec 21, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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Lightning Knight posted:

I don't think they're the two options either and I support using soft power and multilateral solutions to move the world towards global wealth equality and environmental sustainability. I simply am increasingly more anti-interventionist the older I get.

The Syria thing is really lovely and ZePollack was right when they said the operative lesson to learn is that other people should never trust America because we can't guarantee we won't derp out and elect a Trump.


Considering that American hegemony props up such delightful luminaries as Saudi Arabia and Israel, I think you're being silly here. American empire isn't the lesser of two evils, it's just evil. Military bases and interventions abroad don't spread civil rights for LGBT people.

Not what i'm saying. The "soft touch" policies that Russia pursues to try and obtain their own control of the world are responsible for the very same issues you and I are both talking about.

I tried explaining this before. Like I said, there is no case where Russia or China run things in a vacuum. Russia's current strategy of destabilizing and pushing far right wing types to power is a perfect example of what I mean when I say that many people would have to fear for their lives. They also have absolutely no problem with the sort of military interventionism you're talking about when it comes to the US. It's weird that you say these things and overlook how they've treated their nearby nation-states. I mean, holy poo poo, just look at Ukraine or Syria.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Dec 21, 2018

Archonex
May 2, 2012

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ZypherIM posted:

Wait are you saying that the US is responsible for all the genocides? Like its our fault that China is wiping out the uighur? Is the US responsible for Russia murdering journalists that talk poo poo about Putin? Is the US responsible for Russia annexing Crimea?

It is a bit confusing to see that at the same time as you lambasting someone for being dishonest in how they're framing an argument.

There's a reason I didn't even bother replying to that. It's some tankie level distortion of reality.


not a cult posted:

you're framing his argument by putting words in his mouth ("wait are you saying" weasel wording) right now

You literally said the US was complicit in China and Russia doing the "bad things" (Like genociding the Uighur and Russia murdering anyone that tries to fix their broken political system.) they've done of their own accord and are in many cases actively still doing. Unless you mistyped that that sure as hell sounds like you're saying the US is responsible.

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China doing "bad things" is not a convincing rebuttal to the host of completely unrelated US imperial actions. The US is not serving as a counter to China, if anything it is complicit.

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not a cult posted:

No I didn't, that was archangelwar. Which is why I was referring to him as "him" and not "me" or "myself" in the post you're quoting.

Yeah, I got you guys mixed up. My internet keeps crapping out and the thread is moving pretty fast so I had to hurry up and post before I lost my connection again. My mistake.

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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

Yes, the perfidious, semi-functioning chinese, who are a failed state and definitely not designing and building the subway cars for the chicago and boston. I bet they even poo poo in the streets still!

In case you aren't aware, they've got a massive construction and housing bubble that's simultaneously driving a good chunk of their economy while also perpetually being on the verge of collapsing. Barring some miracle it's highly likely that it's basically going to nuke their economy when it pops.

This is on top of massive civil and human rights issues that are just waiting for the opportunity to bubble back to the surface when the government has to choose between keeping the police state apparatus for things like those labor camps and the social credit system going or keeping the economy in the shape it's at right now. On top of all of that a fair amount of the early housing was basically given to people free or at extremely low equity early on to artificially prop their economy up only for them to trade up to even more expensive housing. So when the bubble goes that's going to cause all sorts of issues for the average citizen as well.

A big chunk of their global influence comes from the fact that they were (and to a degree still are, though a number of developing countries in the past decade have taken a chunk out of their share) a huge exporter of goods. Which means that if they wanted they could cause all sorts of issues by issuing some form of economic sanction. Not that i'm sure they ever actually did, interestingly enough. I'd have to look that up.



Also lol at the attempt to make it seem like i'm some sort of racist strawman with the "perfidious" poo poo. gently caress off with that nonsense. I'll come back to this thread when I don't have to deal with two faced bullshit like that.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Dec 21, 2018

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OctaMurk posted:

Lmao. You know resume gaps are a real thing right? People who got hosed by the recession ended up not having a job for months or years, which then leads to them not getting new opportunities because now they don't have experience.

I still can't find a steady job in my field years after graduating in a STEM field due to the location having gone to poo poo and the local hiring process being corrupt as heck on the contractor end. I've had to do independent work where I could get it and save up for a bigger opportunity.

Then a fire wiped everything out and I lost all the money and supplies I had been saving up for years to open a business with. So i'm basically back at square 1. Which means i'm flat out hosed when it comes to long term prospects.

All this however originates back to the economy and hiring field being awful when I originally graduated. If things had been different i'd probably be in a much better position and wouldn't be looking at the prospect of the ruination of any prospects I had in life.

So yeah. gently caress anyone who wants another recession to score political points. That poo poo ruins lives.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Dec 24, 2018

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Tevery Best posted:

You mean this one?







Because it's a great idea

I'm pretty sure that's actually just Trump with long hair.

Kinda ironic that Garrison draws Trump like He-Man and Hillary like Trump though.

Edit: Like, for real. The more I stare at this the more I realize that it's literally Trump with hair sporting weird triangle/illuminati-esque earrings. Heck, if this was a UK political comic if it wasn't for the hair you could be forgiven for thinking that was someone's amped up deliberately-uglified version of Trump.

Garrison's got issues, man.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Dec 31, 2018

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Enigma89 posted:

JONATHAN HAIDT & SCOTT GALLOWAY were on a really interesting podcast yesterday. Would recommend you guys to hear. Haidt is the author of the Codling of the American Mind which was an amazing book, it started from this article which some may find interesting here.

In the name of emotional well-being, college students are increasingly demanding protection from words and ideas they don’t like. Here’s why that’s disastrous for education—and mental health.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

Here is the Spotify link to the podcast.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/00htzHZ9SqlTvyAGCQamMO?si=kRMLcoplRnWDCYfjsSUpIg


e:

Here is an article that explains:
https://www.recode.net/podcasts/2019/1/11/18178800/jonathan-haidt-coddling-american-mind-book-nyu-scott-galloway-pivot-podcast

If I was to go off of this excerpt i'd have to say that this was loving stupid. There's a difference between "coddling someone" and saying "Get the gently caress out, you bigoted bastard." to someone who discriminates on the basis of orientation, birth, skin color, etc, etc. There's nothing coddled about that.

Calling it coddling is just a new way of claiming the whole logical fallacy of "Well, maybe your intolerance of my intolerance makes you the bad guy, hm?" thing that bigots foolishly try to hide behind when they get called on their poo poo. Unless you're going to a place like Liberty U you aren't going to get in trouble for pointing out issues of discrimination. You will however get called out for being an rear end in a top hat to someone based on them being a minority or disadvantaged in some way.

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Like seriously. This poo poo is actually kind of offensive:

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Some recent campus actions border on the surreal. In April, at Brandeis University, the Asian American student association sought to raise awareness of microaggressions against Asians through an installation on the steps of an academic hall. The installation gave examples of microaggressions such as “Aren’t you supposed to be good at math?” and “I’m colorblind! I don’t see race.”

But a backlash arose among other Asian American students, who felt that the display itself was a microaggression. The association removed the installation, and its president wrote an e-mail to the entire student body apologizing to anyone who was “triggered or hurt by the content of the microaggressions.”

Yet the writer pretends that someone assuming that all people with visible asian features are secretly humanoid calculators in disguise isn't that big of a deal. And never mind the old standby of "Oh, I can't be racist. I don't see race.".

Those are things (The latter thing especially, if you replace race with bigotry as a whole.) minorities see and pretty much everyone inside and outside a given minority knows is a thing that some particularly dickish people think and occasionally even say. I can't blame someone for not wanting to see a display explaining it. Barring an in depth tutorial on how not to be a prejudiced rear end accompanying the display it's just acting as a tutorial to be an rear end itself while making affected people roll their eyes at anyone who suddenly wants to pretend to be woke by the whole thing.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Jan 12, 2019

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Mineaiki posted:

Ah, this old yarn. I thought it was the millennials who were conditioned to be snowflakes in college. Now it's zoomers? When they start talking about how the next generation is doing the same thing, can we all just admit that these people are gross old bigots?

Someone else noted that this is basically "you're being intolerant of my intolerance!" But this is dumber than that. Using words like "coddling," they attack their opponents for having emotional attachment to their arguments. This is the same old conservative schtick: launch a million offensive "arguments" at you that question your very humanity and that of your loved ones, and then imply that you're not a rational person because you have an emotional response. U MAD, BRO?

The kids take things a bit far, sometimes. I'm sure they'll cringe when looking back on some of it. But when you're in college and you're just learning about this stuff, it's normal for young people to test the boundaries.

That was me. I edited it out since I didn't want to risk getting off track. But yeah. This is basically a new (slightly stupider) take on the whole "You're intolerant of my intolerance! Perhaps you are the bad guy in this argument? :smug:" logical fallacy.

It's funny because I saw a very similar variant of the same argument this guy is making about a year ago from Greg Gutfeld and the rest of The Five on Fox News hemming and hawing about how college professors had it so bad due to "PC culture" (Read, people not tolerating assholes treating people badly while they were working on the campus.). This, after they spent all that time harping on colleges for daring to tell literal nazis and concern trolls to gently caress off and leave their students alone. It's why I called the author a "Fox News tier reactionary conservative".

So depending on the release date I guess he's trying to cash in on that conservative fad a bit late?


Edit: As a side-note, I also sometimes wonder if Juan Williams (The token "democrat", who is also the only real minority/the only african american of the Five.) has moments when he realized he's basically become the Uncle Tom of Fox News. Around that time I vaguely recall him trying to tell the other four to gently caress off with their lying disingenuous bullshit before he suddenly remembered just what sort of organization it was he was taking a paycheck from. At which point he reverted back to lame deflections and quietly agreeing with his fellow hosts.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jan 12, 2019

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Mineaiki posted:

I think we'll probably keep hearing about it for another generation at least, since we're already crossing into another one apparently. Especially if we make some big move for affordable college. I can hear the classist dogwhistling now about how in the age of expanded college access, professors are afraid to speak.

Tbh that's basically how it already is.

Yeah. I think organizations like Fox News and right wing think tanks at large are probably going to make an attempt to simply shift things forwards from being about/for the Boomers to Gen X and such. Or just try and hook in vulnerable millenials as they get older so they can stay solvent at the continued expense of the perception or validity of the news and national discourse.

Really, the big problem is that there's no real legal constraints preventing straight up deceptive bullshit like what that guy was cribbing off of. Hell, despite claiming to be a news agency (never mind fair and balanced) Fox News in particular won the right to be able to lie and slander in court back around the Bush years. Behavior like that isn't likely to go away any time soon.


Edit: Yeah. Climate change is...Uh. Well, just read the two threads on here and in c-spam. The Mad Max stuff is nihlistic doom saying from a bunch of sad brains. But it's liable to be rough. We really need to get the current Democrats and Republicans to make changes now. Because the time to do it without at least suffering some consequences was yesterday. The longer we wait to actually put some real constraints on the producers of carbon the more our generation and future generations are going to suffer for the greed of others.

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Der Waffle Mous posted:

utah ciswomen got ovipositors huh?

Nah. Nothing that extreme. They can prolapse their wombs when sufficiently threatened or aroused.

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Y'know, the funny thing is that he might actually believe there's a ton of illegal immigrants (Though it's obvious he and the Republicans are going after legal immigrants too given past actions.) flooding the country.

Fox News periodically ranted about it among a bunch of other made up conspiracy theories before the election and his excuse for losing the popular vote was that 3 million illegal immigrants voted. I think he even started a rant on it on Twitter or something after Fox News did another segment on immigration.

It's possible the reason he won't drop the wall (because let's face it. He doesn't give a poo poo about his constituency beyond what they can do for him.) is because of all that Fox News binging convincing him that the only reason he didn't get the majority of the vote is because of all those south americans he thinks are flooding the border.

It's the sort of thing his ego would absolutely not let go. Because admitting that people actually loving loathe him would be a blow to the narcissistic blowhard's ego.


Edit: Also, Larry Hogan is loving terrible. He refused to sign any bills regarding LGBT health or rights even after they were voted in by the legislature and basically is trying to act like he's Republican-lite by avoiding doing anything at all to piss off the Democrats that would vote him out if they had an excuse to be outraged at him.

The end result is that he won't do the typically horrifically Republican things to gently caress over the populace and won't do anything to help the populace. So all we get is yet another lovely Republican/Republican masquerading as a Democrat quietly doing whatever he can to pillage the state so they can blame it on the Democrats down the line to try and take control of the state.

Basically everyone I know is apathetic about him except when he does something stupid that'll gently caress the state down the line like considering lowering our taxes again. At which point he suddenly gets a popularity boost as Boomers magically forget that all of his negative points.

And, as mentioned he's kind of a loving bigot. He just knows that he can't openly say that poo poo out loud in Maryland until he manages to demolish the infrastructure further and people get desperate for someone to blame for things going down the drain.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jan 26, 2019

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pokie posted:

"Every non-Aryan immigrant is illegal!" is a likely trumpism. I think it's more likely he recognizes that his base demands the wall, and he will lose them if he lets it go.

I honestly don't think he cares outside of his ego. Back before he won it turned out he was planning on trying to get a competitor to Fox News going. It was always about grifting off dumb bigots. Then he won thanks to all the slander going around against the Dems, the establishment Democrats being stupid enough to let Hillary Clinton run, and all the foreign collusion he and his campaign got up too. Meaning all that poo poo got thrown off track.

If anything, him being voted out of office lets him pretend to his base that he got screwed out of a victory like he originally planned while justifying going ahead with his plan to do "Fox News 2: This Time Its Even More Bigoted".

It's not like that same group of assholes won't turn on a dime and support someone they should ideologically hate if their hosed up beliefs are pandered too, after all.

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Ratoslov posted:

What's with that horse painting? Looks kinda weird in that setting.

For real, it looks like something from those hilarious/hosed up "Data Paints" Star Trek edits that that one goon did.

No way that wasn't intentional either way.

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Any more info on this? Because seeing CNN pull a Fox News with the party changing on the cyron to align with his views is pretty hilarious.

I mean, it's disingenous as heck. But just lol if you look at Steve King, Kavanaugh, Trump, that one pedophile the GOP moved heaven and earth to try and defend, etc, etc, and think they aren't the party of full balls to the walls naked corruption, grift, and blatant racism at this point in time.

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Jack2142 posted:

This probably got posted already, but this was to batshit not to post up

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-parade-float-italy_us_5c611a4ae4b0eec79b254486


Someone made a float of Trump as the God Emperor of Mankind.



Oh my loving god. You weren't kidding.



Literally the God Emperor of Mankind from WH40K except he has a mutated monster claw on one arm. And he's Trump. Though both probably have the same level of narcissism so :shrug:.

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