USPOL Winter: barely-literate frogman powered by kitsch and bad intentions is POTUS

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Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Wilhelm posted:

and mobility was way less of a thing, if the EU declared 100% open borders and free citizenship tens of millions of people would wave in and lead to chaos unless ~perfect socialist government~ somehow gives all the newcomers well paying jobs and residences and not bad ghettos of unemployed people stealing copper and killing each other

Citation needed

# ¿ Nov 22, 2018 16:40

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 04:18

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

That�s pretty much a fascist take on immigration

# ¿ Nov 22, 2018 16:40

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

# ¿ Nov 22, 2018 16:44

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

pmchem posted:

Universal absolutely open borders results in China taking over any small, strategic location it desires by state-sponsored (forced) immigration. Iceland, Monaco, Guam, Cyprus, Panama, Denmark, random countries in Africa, the list goes on. It�s a ridiculous idea if taken at face value.

Lmfao

# ¿ Nov 22, 2018 17:25

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Skex posted:

In politics it's the people who show up who get their way.

Yeah, the people who show up with money

# ¿ Nov 23, 2018 02:31

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Every Skex post is remarkably confident considering they never have any idea what the gently caress they�re talking about

# ¿ Nov 24, 2018 17:33

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

It�s almost Hoarse Whisperer levels of smug self-aggrandizing about absolute bullshit that nobody cares about

# ¿ Nov 24, 2018 17:34

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Nurge posted:

I understand that the US system is the literal worst. I just wanted to point out that there's always going to be some cutoffs on what services are available since with modern breakthroughs there are possible insanely expensive treatments for super rare things. Nationally funded healthcare is still obviously a billion times better. I didn't want to argue against that at all.

KingNastidon posted:

Because discussing the obvious issues of US healthcare policy with generally like-minded folks is boring and repetitive and it's more interesting/challenging to talk about various implementations and their limitations. It's not like those limitations won't be front-and-center in the future and it's probably more helpful to think about effective ways to counter those arguments other then calling people racist neoliberal capitalist fascists or whatever.

When you bring it up every single time someone mentions UHC it comes across as concern trolling at best

# ¿ Nov 24, 2018 21:02

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Remember Orly Taitz? Lol.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2018 16:41

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

haveblue posted:

I remember thinking that "Birther Queen" sounded like something I should find at the end of a Resident Evil game.

Or like in a shmup like Darius or something

WARNING: BIRTHER QUEEN ORLY TAITZ APPROACHING

# ¿ Nov 26, 2018 17:12

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Dapper_Swindler posted:

god, i love our pissbrained delusional president. nothing will come of this. nothing ever does.

This already exists and it's called Voice of America

# ¿ Nov 26, 2018 21:01

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Skex posted:

Then shouldn't you actually be pushing for trade policies that encourage businesses to pay a living wage for where they are rather than a living wage for the United States?

The problem with trying to discuss, well anything with you is that when anyone tries to engage on substance and have any sort of discussion beyond "capitalism bad full socialism now" is that there are a faction of posters including yourself who automatically go to "the system is monstrous and anyone who doesn't call for it to be immediately torn down are monsters too" and that any progress towards an improved situation is meaningless unless as long as anyone anywhere is still suffering and that anyone who recognizes that having a 100 people dying from a thing is better than having a million dying from that same thing is just as awful and unfeeling as the person who thinks that a million dying isn't quite enough suffering.

I mean what the gently caress do you think that the world was some sort of tolerant utopia before capitalism, where no one suffered and everyone had plenty of food and shelter? And no that's not a defense of capitalism it's simply an observation that was came before was objectively worse. Also full socialism now isn't a particularly good argument either given that it's not like full socialist nations have a particularly awesome track record on these matters either. I mean if we're talking about sweatshops in China last time I checked they had their socialist revolution and this is where it lead them, so why is it the fault of American business that they don't have reasonable wages, environmental and workforce safety already through the amazing power of socialism?

If you want to have a productive discussion about these issues you have to be willing to set your personal feelings aside enough to objectively evaluate the different options, what worked, what failed, what unintended consequences manifested , where those net positive or net negative. Until we have unlimited free energy, reaction mass and a loving replicator ala Star Trek there are going to be some who benefit more from any particular change and some who are harmed by it. and yes by necessity that's going to sound cold and clinical. But consider this, would you rather be going into surgery with a surgeon who tells you the truth about the potential consequences or one who tells you not to worry everything is going to be fine and your prognosis is that you will not only survive but will be even better than you are now?

Being able to compartmentalize personal feelings in these cases is a useful skill because explanations that can fit on a bumper sticker are usually wrong.

Oh my god

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

# ¿ Nov 26, 2018 21:55

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Cru Jones posted:

I don't want fop godammit! I'm a tariff man!

Nice

# ¿ Dec 4, 2018 16:43

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

PhazonLink posted:

lol righhhhtttt.

lol thats not how laws work, but gently caress what do I know, I'm just an Ace Attonety lawyer.

(note I only have experience with murder cases, seriously has Nick have had a non murder?)

I�ve only played AA1-3 and part of AJ but so far it�s all murders

# ¿ Dec 4, 2018 19:46

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

DandyLion posted:

I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbhSoCRUZIM

Hey

Benny

Screw you

# ¿ Jan 22, 2019 17:04

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

exploded mummy posted:

you should read the Venezuela thread

Yeah the C-SPAM one, the D&D thread is godawful

# ¿ Jan 24, 2019 20:00

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

GreyjoyBastard posted:

only when a bunch of idiots swarm in to posture about imperialism and apologize for Maduro

Oh word?

# ¿ Jan 24, 2019 20:07

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Meanwhile an article came out today about the mental health toll that reviewing social media for content violations inflicts on moderators

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1100017658102251520

# ¿ Feb 25, 2019 18:16

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Party Plane Jones posted:

Q is Valerie Shen, the chief national security counsel for Ranking Member Cummings on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

Finally, the secret is out.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2019 04:31

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Caros posted:

You know there is a vaccine for that, right?

This. I never had it but I was vaccinated

# ¿ Mar 20, 2019 18:54

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Kerning Chameleon posted:

Mankind is physically incapable of collectively redeeming itself of its fundamental sinful nature, and unfortunately no actual benevolent diety or aliens exist to externally save it.

Tell that to the Posadists

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Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

GreyjoyBastard posted:

iunno, "revelations was about the decline of the Roman Empire, which is ultimately a cyclical process due to the moral failures of humanity" sounds about right

Hmm yes, just like Dark Souls

# ¿ Mar 22, 2019 01:07

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