The US will lose WW3

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500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Lostconfused posted:

https://www.airforcemag.com/f-35-program-dumps-alis-for-odin/

My Facebook time hop the other day had pictures of me in an f35 cockpit back in just barely pre.covid 2020 and they're pretty cool even for all their memed-to--death flaws but the f22 is always gonna be my favorite top dog (because I'm not motivated by export sales) but always sell the inferior product abroad imo.

I'm a big fan of jet turbine engines and their technology in general and the cutting edge military designs are insane

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 01:56

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 01:00

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Endman posted:

Why did the logic change from building planes that are too fast/high to shoot down to building flying bricks with 'lol u can't see me xD' paint on them?

After 5 generations on top you end up huffing your own farts and the telephone game owns you hard.

Captains of industry read Marx, said this guy knows his poo poo, used his writing as frame work to refine their operations, and taught every subsequent generation a further removed tale of this antichrist Karl Marx. Now you have 5th generation failsons tweeting about Marxism and it's just a lol

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 03:48

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

The f22 has the radar cross section of a hummingbird

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 04:34

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

I think war thunder is the og version and also started with planes and expanded to tanks and most recently the ships but I don't think I've played since like 2013

# ¿ Mar 28, 2022 14:28

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Rutibex posted:

why was so much stuff left behind? bribing the guys in charge of taking the m16s to the garbage compactor out back? too many weapons to ever destroy them all?

Think of all the poo poo a person accumulates over the course of 20 years in a house and then extrapolate that across a warzone for an army of occupation

# ¿ May 27, 2022 22:46

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

A conventionally constructed suppressor still needs to be machined. Depending on the process and materials, you can print a suppressor that needs almost no machining (chasing the threads pretty much, while leaving all surfaces as produced) and you can create something that is literally impossible to make with reductive machining techniques.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2022 20:54

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Fly Molo posted:

that sounds dumb finicky and expensive

Every component of a conventionally produced suppressor needs to be formed, forged, and/or machined. A printed object could potentially require no or close to zero machining, especially in comparison. The largest cost difference is probably the fact that additive machining doesn't require active participation from a skilled machinist to remove material and develop the commodity.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2022 02:00

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

someone should make an M4 but chambered in 30-06

# ¿ Jun 8, 2022 14:01

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mawarannahr posted:

it would make a lot more sense, humanistically, to redefine the meter to be based on the atomic bomb instead of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 seconds, which is a bit of a ridiculous number.

Make it penis based and call it a meat-er

# ¿ Jul 20, 2022 11:10

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Goast posted:

being an army boat guy is probably the funniest job

Lol if you think the loving marines conducted the largest contested beachhead landing

Just.lol

# ¿ Jul 23, 2022 04:06

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evilpicard posted:

The F22 which is actually good cost $120 million and was cancelled for being too expensive

The f22 is too good to export so there's no customers

# ¿ Jul 29, 2022 02:34

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Also all the production lines for the airframe and engines were shuttered over a decade ago

# ¿ Jul 29, 2022 02:42

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

A few years ago the government was trying to cold start production of parts because they realized they hosed up but I don't think it ever actually happened

# ¿ Jul 29, 2022 02:46

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lobster shirt posted:

why did they scrap everything for the f-22 if its so good, its super expensive so its not like the MIC wasn't wettings its beak. what gives!

The f35 has a bunch of variants and can be exported all around the globe which means big dollars for the MIC.

The f22 cannot be exported to other countries, it is an America only airplane. If America is not buying them, people aren't getting paid for them. The initial contracts were met and it was time to move on to profitable endeavours.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2022 14:04

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

I like the heart on the harness

# ¿ Aug 16, 2022 11:26

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Didn't the Russians not give it the ability to see farther than it can shoot, something like 2km, because you don't need see what you can't shoot

# ¿ Sep 17, 2022 15:32

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Ardennes posted:

I would say the issue is hitting a moving target with them, they whiffed all the time in Syria. Also, in combat, the Bradley is going to have two tries max with them since there isn’t going to be enough time to reload. I would say it is more the game even if the t-55 is going to have obsolete sights will 3-4Km range during the day, and it doesn’t really have to worry about armor penetration since it is firing into aluminum.

The one real advantage is at night, where the Bradley would have a much easier time with its thermal sights.

Maybe on an m2 Bradley but m3 crews are absolutely trained timed and certified reloading tows

# ¿ Sep 17, 2022 20:05

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

One is light amplification and the other is complicated AF and requires ultra cooled liquids and poo poo so that makes a lot of sense to me from the more practically oriented russians

# ¿ Sep 17, 2022 20:28

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gradenko_2000 posted:

my wife and I got into a discussion over both Prince Harry and Prince Andrew getting to wear military uniforms to the Queen's funeral, and I asked if Andrew had ever seen combat, since I knew Harry did, and it turns out Andrew was in the Royal Navy during the Falklands conflict

lol why are they all helicopter pilots? is it to tempt god or just a metaphorical throwback to riding horses

# ¿ Sep 20, 2022 14:39

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Rutibex posted:

the fact they need to call it a "suicide drone" is just pathetic and juvenile. its insulting

It's a cool name and I wish Perfect Dark called their tv missile that

# ¿ Jan 1, 2023 05:30

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LegoMan posted:

isn't a "suicide drone" just a cruise missile

It is actively steered, like video game wire guided missiles

# ¿ Jan 1, 2023 07:07

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Rutibex posted:

or a japanese zero

I don't think Mitsubishi installed explosives specifically for impact effects tho

# ¿ Jan 1, 2023 07:27

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Frosted Flake posted:

Do you not have to go on your Primary Leadership Course + a trade specific course (Machinegun Team Leader, Gun 2IC, Tank Gunner, Infantry Section 2IC etc.) to be an E-4? That's equivalent to a Master Bombardier, Caporal-chef, Stabskorporal etc. etc. and generally entails leading a combat element in battle, not... referring a friend.

Does it just mean you get a slot on the course, or...?

E4 can mean a 'specialist' or a corporal, a corporal would be someone generally on track to be promoted to E5 and eligible for PLDC or WLC or whatever it might be called now. A specialist is just an older lazier PFC.

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/EyesLeftPod/status/1618324621434183684

this has been a thing for decades afaik

# ¿ Jan 27, 2023 17:32

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

BitcoinRockefeller posted:

WTF did they make the ASVAB harder or something? It's got whole sections for shop kids even, my impression was it's designed so everyone can kind of pass some part of it and go somewhere in the army.

All the local Kwik Trips are hiring at $16, $18 for third shift. Go straight from high school to stocking gas station shelves and make more than a newly minted E5, do it at night and it's more than an E6.

Some people are just that dumb

# ¿ Mar 11, 2023 17:43

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The Oldest Man posted:

I'm sorry you have this engine with space for a giant loving drive-shaft for the Marines lift fan garbage right in front of it and you can't run a generator off that to power your onboard systems

Like, you know, a modern passenger airliner

They do run generators for power, the problem is pulling cold air from the engine makes the engine run hotter

# ¿ Apr 1, 2023 11:12

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indigi posted:

it's not pulling "cold" air from the engine it's pulling compressed air that's very hot but can be used to cool some components. it's also used to de-ice wings and stuff, cause it's hot

planes can pull cold air from the atmosphere but it's not done through the engine and idk if it's used on fighter jets. probably is actually to keep the cabin cool

500f is cold as gently caress for a jet engine

# ¿ Apr 2, 2023 07:50

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Weka posted:

Wrong. Most jet engines are colder than that.

Im sure this is a joke but "hot" and "cold" are relative terms and the "cold" section of an engine is still hitting like 1100+ degrees in the final compressor stages before the combustor. Idk what that other dude was on about because the original article talked about all the things he pondered re: cabin air (it is bleed air cooled down)

The whole engine is designed around the bleed air / cooling air, it's a balancing act to get as much power as possible while removing that heat from the components. When you add or remove it in one area, it affects everything else

# ¿ Apr 2, 2023 20:26

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nomad2020 posted:

To the extent to where some of the newer high power turbine rotor sections are being milled from solid blocks of titanium to try and scrape out a couple extra degrees of operating temperature.

Titanium is not in the power turbine, titanium is in the compressors. Power turbine airfoils are single crystal nickel superalloy which is the peak of metals more or less. The future is in ceramic composites to achieve the highest temperatures.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2023 03:05

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skooma512 posted:

lol that the military has less sense than a smol business tyrant running a restaurant. You can't look too hard at who shows up because eventually you're gonna find something you have to act on, so don't drug test anybody.

Company and battalion commanders absolutely understand this concept lol can't find what you don't look for, problem solved

# ¿ Apr 12, 2023 01:07

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Frosted Flake posted:

lol that rules.

Doesn't the USAF have a HSLD team that is... airfield gate guards?

No theyre not HSLD, they're just called Security Forces and abbreviated at SF which purposely makes them sound cooler than what they actually are (gate guards)

# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 20:06

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Lostconfused posted:

I think I like the angled smoke launchers, are they usually supposed to be like that?

Usually yeah

# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 17:29

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Frosted Flake posted:

In the US you can see how SF has warped every branch of service, because the Coast Guard has four special operations teams. I don't know which is Tier One and Tier Two, but:

TACLET

MSRT

MSST

PSU

and that's the loving Coast Guard. So far as I know, it's not like any of the people assigned to the SF units do useful things like assist boaters in distress, either. They're not rescue swimmers, they're not maintaining navigational aids, or performing safety inspections. It's complete organizational deadweight to the mission of the Coast Guard.

i bet the coasties are just happy to be allowed to have beards again

# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 01:13

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skooma512 posted:

I wonder when folks are going to get the hint about "Dropping light infantry way ahead of a main force" being kind of a bad idea unless you can ensure the main force can arrive more or less on time (you can't ensure anything in a war).

uhh never? scouts gotta scout

# ¿ Aug 15, 2023 19:35

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Slavvy posted:

The gently caress is a semi submersible

It's like an iceberg but cooler

# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 01:21

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Cerebral Bore posted:

boeotia is the region and thebes was the dominant city, but i suppose back in the day you didn't make that much of a distinction between the people living in the city proper and the people living in the countryside that was part of the same polis

People from Boston vs massholes

# ¿ Sep 4, 2023 17:46

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The Oldest Man posted:

Attack helicopters are actually the mislabeled successors to the US tank destroyer doctrine, prove me wrong

its labeled correctly, tank destroyers were cav, cav started on horses, now ride birds

# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 22:35

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

my only opinion on gun systems on tracked vehicle platforms is that they require a lot of training and infrastructure to facilitate that training, from combat simulators to actually shooting gunnery tables. There is a lot of tradoc inertia to deal with on top of any design and manufacturing. It doesn't matter how many guns the vehicle has if you cannot train the crew to effectively use those systems because your existing facilities are already at capacity from all the other tanks and bradleys etc

# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 22:57

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The Oldest Man posted:

Well also they can't even keep the cafeterias open at some of these bases so rip

ironic because cook is like the second oldest job in the military

# ¿ Sep 10, 2023 01:48

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Frosted Flake posted:

I can explain this if I have time this afternoon, but there were a bunch of decisions in the early 60's that led to this as they did not want to rotate actual combat units to Vietnam for "the duration", so they used the individual tours of duty. This ties into my earlier point because it's an absolutely garbage system from a military effectiveness, unit cohesion or soldier morale perspective, but politically bore the least cost. The rationale being that padding out troop numbers with a heterogeneous mix of draftees rotating home at irregular times would allow units to be in Vietnam for years, with only the headquarters staff actually having any sort of continuity, and so whole combat units from Germany would not have to be redeployed.

It led to there being, in a very real sense two US Armies in the 60's and 70's, as even the personal equipment, organization and weapons of troops in Germany differed from those in Vietnam, as well as personnel.

e: You can sort of compare this to the British Army in the 70's and 80's which had one army in Ireland and the BAOR, which were not mutually interchangeable.

ee: Or the French Army in Europe in the 50's and 60's which had entirely different equipment and organization, as well as personnel composition, than the one in Algeria and Indochina.

To date it has not worked for anyone but people keep attempting it.

eee: Or the Dutch KNIL, which went further and was officially different from the Royal Netherlands Army.

Seems to work for the french foreign legion

# ¿ Sep 17, 2023 00:15

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 01:00

500excf type r: Mar 7, 2013; I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

They should do the arctic ice breaker's maintenance in the summer imo

# ¿ Sep 18, 2023 01:40

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