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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Unless you've literally been in a coma for the past four years this debate won't be your first impression of Bernie Sanders, so I dunno what the hell you're on about. I didn't see the debates yesterday unfortunately so I'm just speaking in generalities here.
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VH4Ever posted:I allow for this possibility but I just have no loving patience for it. Folks ITT already know I had no patience for the stupid Gravel thing either. No. Joke. Candidates.
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Jun 28, 2019 15:42
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Punk da Bundo posted:Funny how the “joke “ candidates are the only ones saying anything worth listening to . Marianne the ONLY one calling out American imperialism in South America , while the others stood silent .
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Jun 28, 2019 16:03
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Jun 28, 2019 17:59
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Pre-debate I would've never guessed she'd be getting this much attention (here and elsewhere) while Yang and Pete* are barely an afterthought.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:27
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Typo posted:it's cuz they gave yang like 2 questons and williamson like 5
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Jun 28, 2019 19:29
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1144655011839991809
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Jun 28, 2019 20:01
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this will not end well for biden
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Jun 28, 2019 21:06
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Gripweed posted:Here's a big thread about why Buttigieg is bad, mostly stuff we knew about him doing everything he can to protect a racist, murderous police department. But this one was a surprise Lol I thought maybe this was an old quote from long ago and a position he might’ve changed or something. But this was a question they asked all the candidates.
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Jul 3, 2019 01:26
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Armack posted:Show me where I said we have to give up. I am a Bernie donor and text volunteer for Bernie, which I have also indicated in my posts. Honestly I get your pessimism and don't think you were acting in bad faith or whatever, as much as I want Bernie to win and I thought Biden was inevitable when he had that huge of a lead, most voters don't really pay close attention to politics, and the whole part about the voters only caring about electability/beating Trump. Even after his initial bump faded he had some serious lasting power in the polls for a while and I didn't think one debate was going to see him fall this much (and even then he still has a lead in most polls).
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Jul 3, 2019 18:35
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Montalvo posted:as I was merely pointing out that the pushback to women and minorities that dislike Bernie comes from people who are not women and minorities
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Jul 10, 2019 17:26
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I actually met a girl who I believe is now a paid Buttigieg staffer. I think it was New Years (2018 maybe?) and somehow politics got brought up and the details are hazy but I remember mentioning something about needing to get more progressive candidates in the dem party or saying that the future of it was more progressive or something like that (or it could've even been policy specific like Medicare for All) and she tried to make some lame argument about how the middle is safer or what have you. And then I laughed and asked her how that worked last time and she had some typical lame excuse that showed she learned absolutely nothing from 2016. I totally forgot about that interaction until my buddy (same buddy/current roommate who I got into an argument with after he told me Ben Shapiro is really smart and it's hard to argue against his logic) told me she was working for him likely because he was the only one willing to pay her. Can't say I'm terribly shocked. TrixR4kids fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jul 11, 2019 |
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Jul 11, 2019 14:53
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Punk da Bundo posted:“What’s next pay off everybodies mortgage ?!”
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Jul 11, 2019 17:24
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https://twitter.com/MikeGravel/status/1149381689141059589 I doubt the guy is going to make the debates even if he technically qualifies but at least the small donations they got are going toward something useful.
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Jul 11, 2019 19:35
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Why hasn't anyone posted the ad?
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Jul 11, 2019 19:53
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King of Solomon posted:Getting Gravel into the debates IS productive
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Jul 12, 2019 18:50
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It'd be one thing if Gravel was seriously looking to become president and could potentially steal supporters away from Bernie, there was some potential, however small, of that happening with Gabbard initially (and I made sure to tell the progressive friends I knew who were on the fence between her and Bernie how bad her record is on certain issues). But the guy is 89 and I doubt has any real delusions of running and won't qualify for the later debates anyhow. In which case I have zero problem with showing people that ad and telling them that if they donate a whopping $1, if nothing else they might be able to make similar ads going forward and he could get to the next debate and trash some of the awful candidates. And I can only see that helping no matter how small of an effect it might have (probably enough to justify the $1 expenditure).
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Jul 12, 2019 19:05
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Punk da Bundo posted:my god what kind of monster would look at Tulsi and be like yeah I want her as the president . Gravel is 90 and is more in touch with how awful America is than some weird robot like Pete butt
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Jul 12, 2019 19:10
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1149654663773343744
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Jul 12, 2019 19:34
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sexpig by night posted:it didn't help that the weird teens running his entire campaign keep trying to make things about them and making weird 'haha yea I'm going to Oxford but I still wanna join the military after doing ROTC, you know, for woke reasons' comments. That's the problem with a campaign literally run by other people, no one really is getting much of Gravel's messaging because, ya know, he's not doing anything
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Jul 12, 2019 19:58
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How many hours do fellows work? Is it a few hours a week or is it more like a full time job? Just trying to see how it differs from an army of unpaid volunteers who, as far as I'm aware, every candidate has.
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Jul 12, 2019 21:51
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Ogmius815 posted:Well, that’s my point. This is something like the legal difference between an employee and a contractor. I think there’s room for volunteer positions on campaigns and not for profit organizations that come with concrete commitments and expectations. And being a volunteer is something else entirely, you go off the clock whenever you feel like it and put in as many or few hours as you want. There’s a pretty massive difference between doing that and doing an unpaid internship.
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Jul 13, 2019 18:44
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Cerebral Bore posted:It's almost like Bernie plans to fix that by making college free. Was gonna say, you don’t accrue a lot of debt if it costs $0.
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Jul 14, 2019 18:37
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There are reasons to go to college other than getting a job afterward and I honestly don’t see how else you solve that problem. I can’t imagine it’d be legal to force employers to drop the college degree requirement for instance.
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Jul 14, 2019 20:49
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Look he said it’s his second choice, they’re all gonna be bad no matter who you pick if you’re a Bernie supporter. We spent however many pages talking about MAW’s anti-vaxxer stuff, why Warren isn’t trustworthy, and why the rest aren’t even remotely an option. Yang’s UBI does suck rear end and is basically a lovely libertarian version (like pretty much every UBI that’s ever been proposed) but I’m not sure it’s more disqualifying than the regressive stuff the other candidates support like no hospital left behind.
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Jul 17, 2019 22:41
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Z. Autobahn posted:What is there to comment on? No one has, as far as I know, ever claimed Warren is the preferred candidate of black voters. Warren's support is overwhelmingly white and college-educated, skewing female. Has anyone ever claimed otherwise?
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Jul 18, 2019 03:49
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Condiv posted:as for williamson, i'm not sure why people are melting down about a joke candidate that is not gaining any traction at all There just aren't any good second choices. Warren would probably be mine (at least in terms of one that has any shot at winning) and I wouldn't exactly be excited about it for all the reasons mentioned ITT.
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Jul 18, 2019 13:33
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Way to just pretend Mike Gravel doesn't even exist And even as someone who donated to him I forget that he exists because he's not even allowed to debate due to how lovely the DNC is. TrixR4kids fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 14:18
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I hate to tell you this but Crazy Crystal Lady's only goal is to get on stage and sell books As far as second choices go Gravel is probably the most morally defensible I have no argument there.
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Jul 18, 2019 14:24
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Oh Snapple! posted:I mean it in the sense that I rarely see the folks who flip their poo poo over Williamson react similarly to other candidates.
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Jul 18, 2019 18:28
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gohmak posted:Federal Jobs Guarantee
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Jul 18, 2019 22:36
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Majorian posted:He's a little disappointing on health care - his stance is the annoyingly mealy-mouthed "Medicare for All who want it/I don't want to make private insurance illegal" type of thing. I also don't get the impression that he's willing to drastically overhaul the American economy to the degree that his climate change plans would require. He's still a good dude, and probably my third or fourth choice, but he's got some weak points too.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:45
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Main Paineframe posted:Today, at the Iowa state fair, Biden scored a big victory over the gotcha press, who were trying to bait him into politically foolish moves like calling Donald Trump a white supremacist!  joepinetree posted:Biden surrogates have been pushing the "medicare for all takes away your healthcare to give it to illegal aliens," a talking point that was included in the El Paso shooter's manifest. It's the least surprising thing that he doesn't want to call anyone white supremacist. TrixR4kids fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Aug 9, 2019 |
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Aug 9, 2019 05:29
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joepinetree posted:What part? Rahm Emanuel, who has spent a lot of time after leaving office defending the Biden campaign (though he says he hasn't made up his mind yet) specifically attacked medicare for all as taking away healthcare from 150 million people to give it to undocumented immigrants.The talking point was so common that it was one of the first questions for Bernie during the debate. There's this columnist that is one of the biggest Biden stans (sample of column titles: "Three reasons why Joe Biden should run in 2020," "In defense of Joe Biden's switcheroo" and several columns attacking Bernie or Warren). After the debate, he wrote the almost infamous now "Joe Biden won the debate, and he wasn’t even on stage" where he argues that Biden won the night where it was Bernie and Warren because
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Terror Sweat posted:Lol at the dude wearing a shirt with mlk quoted on it going to a pro-segregationists presidential rally
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