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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Sanders comes across as kind of shouty.
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Jun 28, 2019 15:13
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I don't understand why the big push to make Election Day a federal holiday (it's part of HR1, Bernie keeps introducing it, etc). I mean, there's no harm to it, but I also don't see how it gets more people voting, because private companies don't have to be closed for federal holidays. Only the federal government closes. So you're really only helping a small group of people. It seems like, if you really want to help let people vote, you do what New York just did and pass a law saying that employers have to give employees up to three hours off on election day to go vote. Thats still not perfect, and you're going to run into enforcement problems, but at least it will cover more people.
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Jun 28, 2019 18:08
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Tibalt posted:Wouldn't a hourly employee get time and a half on a federal holiday though? No. There's no law that says that employers have to pay extra to employees who work on federal holidays or have to pay employees who don't work on federal holidays
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Jun 28, 2019 18:16
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Buden's problem is less that he opposed busing in 1977 and more that he won't say he was wrong noew. If you're a Democratic senator from Delaware in 1977, of course you were going to oppose busing. It was remarkably unpopular, especially with the .middle class suburban whites who made up Biden's base. The thing is, when all this came out this year, if he had said something like, "Yes, I opposed busing in the late '70s. Even though I was never consciously racist and have always been against any form of racial discrimination, I, like so many other people, didn't realize at the time why busing was necessary to combat the kind of neighborhood and economic divisions that led to segregation in practice. I've come to realize over the years, though, that that was wrong, by listening to the stories of people who benefited from busing. You know, folks, that's the type of thing we need now. We spend so much time talking and so little time listening to each other, about what we need, how we feel, and how we can work together to make this country live up to the American Dream and reverse the damage that President Trump brought to this country." Or, I dunno, something like that. I mean, this thread would still hate him, but I think it would have stopped a lot of the bleeding.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:15
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kidkissinger posted:I don't think she's talking about Christian angels here I'm pretty sure Lincoln was speaking metaphorically. I'm not sure about Williamson.
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Jun 28, 2019 21:16
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So, I'm wondering how much this busing thing will hurt Biden. Does anybody know if thereel are any recent polls about the attitude towards busing among the general population and the Democratic party?
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Jun 28, 2019 23:15
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Main Paineframe posted:I dunno, but the media and political establishment seem to hate it. Having your own staffers running to the media to swear they advised you against doing what you're currently doing is rarely a good place to be. Oh, no doubt. I was just wondering if people had numbers on attitudes.
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Jun 28, 2019 23:46
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Condiv posted:wait, buttchug is an antivaxxer? He's not an antivaxxer. He made a statement saying he supported letting people opt out for religious reasons unless there's a public health crisis that would override that. After he got criticism for it, he "walked it back"...ie, changed his position. But you can support letting people opt out of vaccination and not yourself be antivax. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
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Jul 3, 2019 03:07
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Judakel posted:This is incorrect. Supporting opt-outs is being anti-vax due to the realities of herd immunity. It's not. Supporting opt outs (except for special medical reasons, like the person is immunocompromised) is a bad idea and bad public policy, for the aforementioned herd immunity. It's a bad position. But generally when people say "anti-vax", they mean that they think vaccines themselves are bad things or dangerous or cause autism or whatever. You can support vaccine optouts and not at the same time think vaccines are bad or dangerous.
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Jul 3, 2019 03:16
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Judakel posted:It is. The only excuse is medical. That's it. Otherwise, you're antivax. My man Pete supports(ed?) non-medical exemptions. Clearly we have a different definition of "antivax". VitalSigns posted:That's still anti-vax. I wouldn't say nothing else is treated that way. Nobody says you're anti-Social Security if you don't want to repeal the Amish opt-out. I mean, it's kind of a moot point anyway, because it's not a federal issue. Vaccination laws are state matters. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jul 3, 2019 |
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Jul 3, 2019 03:35
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Iron Twinkie posted:The first wave of feminists believed they had the right to own a plantation full of slaves the same as any man and their rich white successors are convinced it will be theirs any day now. In the US, at least, there was a close link between feminism and abolitionism, and a lot of the early American feminists were also abolitionists.
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Jul 4, 2019 17:31
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Grapplejack posted:I think Warren is okay but this plan sucks, it doesn't do anything to actually address issues with housing. Doing an overhaul of zoning and mandatory parking would be great though and should happen regardless of who wins. Aren't things like that municipal or state issues? There are federal laws that touch on zoning, like banning redlining and demanding places be accessible to persons with disabilities and things like that, and the federal government can and does do things like Section 8 vouchers and public housing projects, but no matter who becomes President, they're not going to do anything about zoning or mandatory parking levels.
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Jul 6, 2019 05:25
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! Here's a breakdown of funding for all the candidates based on their reports: https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race
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Jul 6, 2019 20:46
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Is there some kind of direct material gain here, apart from a tiny amount of short-lived publicity and maybe a modest book deal? Gives him a chance to yell about impeaching Trump and get it on a national stage, I'd guess. Steyer has been one of the strongest advocates for impeachment.
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Jul 8, 2019 04:17
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I've asked before but no one seems to know: if a candidate competes in some primaries and wins delegates, and then drops out, are those effectively free delegates, or do they tend to vote for whoever their candidate endorses after dropping out, or what? That's kinda crucial to know, in considering how to approach this. The short answer is that if a candidate drops out, his or her delegates don't have to vote for the candidate their candidate endorses, but in practice, of course, delegates are loyal to a candidate and will probably do what a candidate asks. It's largely been a moot question up to this point, because, since primaries became the main way parties picked candidates, there hasn't been a case where none of the candidates had a majority of the delegates going into the convention. (Technically, the parties don't even require pledged delegates to vote for the candidate they're pledged to.some states have laws saying they have to, but only New Mexico criminalizes a delegate voting for a candidate they aren't pledged to. This led to a failed attempt by Republicans in 2016 to peel enough delegates off Trump that he wouldn't win in the first vallot.)
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Jul 8, 2019 21:50
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wonder if she walks this back faster than harris' does when she lies about being for m4a There's nothing to even walk back there. "Support a two state solution with an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza" has been the boilerplate Democratic position on the issue since the mid 90s, at least.
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Jul 9, 2019 12:17
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So, question about the Sanders student loan debt plan? I get that Sanders wants the government to pay off all outstanding student loan debt. But then what happens going forward? He's said (and this is from an article by him in Fortune Magazine). https://fortune.com/2019/07/09/bernie-sanders-cancel-student-debt/ quote:Moving forward, our legislation will also make every public college and university, historically black college and university, trade school, and apprenticeship program in America tuition-free and debt-free, because we understand that education must be an economic right for all, not a privilege for the few. While that's nice for the people attending, all those places are pretty full up already, so most students are still going to have to pay for their education, and large portions of that will also likely be debt financed. So what happens down the line with that debt? Has he said anything about that?
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Jul 10, 2019 02:02
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Wicked Them Beats posted:You mean the existing students? What happens with them? Their current debt is wiped by the legislation and the next quarter/semester they attend after the legislation passes is free. I don't see the problem. I mean the new students who don't go to a public school or HBE? Because according to that Fortune article, it's only going to be education at state schools, trade schools, and HBUs that's going to be free for students. So, say Sanders gets elected in 2020 and Congress passes the bill on inauguration day 2021. So then, lets say I'm high school class of 2021, and go to college in fall of 2021. I don't go to a state school or an HBU, so I've got to pay tuition, which I can't afford, so I have to take out loans. Are you saying that those loans will capped at 1.88% interest?
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Jul 10, 2019 03:05
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Shear Modulus posted:second, i am not sure what you mean when you quote a quote that says "we will make public colleges tuition free" and then say "but how will people pay for tuition?" if you are predicting that the public colleges will get full and some students will be forced to go to private colleges that are not tuition free, the solution is to hire more teachers and open more schools. The public colleges are full now, and budgets there are being cut.
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Jul 10, 2019 03:07
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Shear Modulus posted:the tax on wall street included in the bill would raise an absurd amount of money. the money goes to the states to spend on, among other things, building more schools and hiring more faculty The bill seems to anticipate a 25% increase in enrollment, I believe? quote:PROJECTED ENROLLMENT.—If the projected full-time equivalent eligible students figure of the State or eligible Indian entity under subparagraph (A) is more than 25 percent larger than the full-time equivalent eligible students figure for the preceding year, the Secretary may challenge such enrollment projection and offer an alternative enrollment projection which shall be used in the formula under subparagraph (A) for determining the allotment.
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Jul 10, 2019 03:31
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Feldegast42 posted:Has Bernie ever said anything about his vote on the 9/11 AUMF? He did at the time. He said that, since Bush already had authority legally to do it, the AUMF was just a symbolic vote and that he voted for it because quote:I believe that the use of force is one tool that we have at our disposal to fight against the horror of terrorism and mass murder. One
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Jul 18, 2019 20:41
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Latest news from the Bernie campaign. There's been a pay dispute: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...m=.c17601899fda quote:Campaign field hires have demanded an annual salary they say would be equivalent to a $15-an-hour wage, which Sanders for years has said should be the federal minimum. The organizers and other employees supporting them have invoked the senator’s words and principles in making their case to campaign manager Faiz Shakir, the documents reviewed by The Washington Post show.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:51
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The goal isn't even to exclude Williamson or Gravel. It's to build a narrative to exclude the next Bernie. Who is, technically, not a Democrat. He just joined in March so he could run.
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Jul 19, 2019 17:36
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Gyges posted:It is very true that not a single unionized worker in any other campaign is unhappy. The Castro campaign is represented by the Campaign Guild of America. Speaking of, do you know why Bernie 's people aren't? Apparently they're affiliated with UFCW Local 400, a union for supermarket employees. Does anyone know how that works, wxa tly? I mean, I k ow, theoretically, unless there's a contract saying otherwise, any group can ask any union to represent them, but wouldn't you pick one affiliated with your industry or profession?
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Jul 20, 2019 13:46
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Eschenique posted:So this picture has been making the rounds. Average salary for all employees is going to be different than average salary for field organizers, who are generally on the lower end of the campaign hierarchy. Also, do those figures assume a 40 hour week?
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Jul 24, 2019 05:55
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Marxalot posted:And they're free to go vote Republican like the rest of the FYGM conservatives. "Sanders 2020: You're Free to Vote Republican if You Don't Like It" isn't my suggestion for a campaign slogan, but.
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Jul 26, 2019 17:21
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Halloween Jack posted:Actively courting Republicans has not proven to be a winning strategy. I'm not talking about courting Republicans, though. I'm saying it's a bad idea to say "If you don't like my policy you can go to hell." Forget Republicans, you've got to get Democrats on board, both ik the primary and in the general, and part of that means dealing with people who aren't on board with Sanders Medicare for All policy right now. You have to win them over, not just call them idiots.
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Jul 26, 2019 17:36
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Are midwesterners really this loving insecure that they need to be reassured constantly that they're number one priority don't worry? Never met any midwesterners, have you?
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Jul 31, 2019 01:23
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mcmagic posted:These time limits are horrible. They've got too many people on stage. You can't have an effective debate with 10 people.
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Jul 31, 2019 01:40
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Insanite posted:No one will mistake you for a socialist, Pete. He's right, though. It's not like the Republicans aren't going to red bait regardless of who the nominee is.
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Jul 31, 2019 01:42
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Go out and dance around in front of it. Remarkably unpopular mayor of New York.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:15
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Fun fact. Kristen Gillibrand's grandmother was the mistress of the mayor of Albany.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:19
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Biden is doing a lot better this debate than last time. He's got some fire back.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:33
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mcmagic posted:He's in a democratic debating whining about costs. He's more energetic, though, and willing to defend himself, which didn't really happen last time. And no reason to surrender the idea of fiscal efficiency to the Republicans.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:36
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Punk da Bundo posted:Lmao why does Kamala Harris get every question . This is so biased . It’s a pathetic attempt at Harris vs Biden She and Biden are the only two there who have any popular support.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:42
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SirKibbles posted:Ok I'm just going to ask who the hell is this Droopy dog sounding rear end in a top hat Bennett? He's a senator from Colorado.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:45
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JesusSinfulHands posted:Why do New Yorkers hate BdB again? I've liked him both debates so far tbh Yeah. He's not a really great administrator. He's really big on rhetoric and grandstanding, but not so good when it comes to actually running the city. A lot of the New York City departments are pretty badly run and not very effective.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:52
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Main Paineframe posted:he offered Amazon $3 billion for HQ2 That's not technically corruption. That's just what cities do to attract businesses. It's more stuff like the city bought up apartment buildings from developers who's lawyer gave a bunch of money to his campaign, he hit up businesses doing business with the city for donation of funds to his not for profit, etc.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:57
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Monowhatever posted:Why the gently caress is Biden the gently caress front runner A lot of it is that Obama was really popular with Democrats, and Biden is identified with Obama.
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Aug 1, 2019 02:00
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Psychepath posted:Does he think black prisoners can't read and write? How loving old is this dude? He's right about high rates of illiteracy among prisoners. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2016/04/01/literacy/
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Aug 1, 2019 02:15
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