Atrocious Joe posted:

love to take group naps with my coworkers for 3 hours

Perry Mason Jar posted:

This is severe Epstein brain. I don't understand it either (I also don't remember anything Cernovich re: Pizzagate) but I don't think concocting a cover up that is made up almost entirely of real things that actually happened is a. something that happens and/or b. some brilliant conspiracy. It's possible that Cernovich just didn't know?

Spergin Morlock posted:

mixing real info with fake poo poo and pushing it to drown out "pure" real poo poo is a standard disinformation tactic

Zas posted:

man epstein sure killed the poo poo out of himself huh

Ice Phisherman posted:

My personal guess is that it is and it isn't.

When Epstein's Butler circled a number of names in red in his little black book of people, this distinguished people that visited Epstein's island and those that were something of an inner circle. And that speaks to me of people that you are allowed to draw from as a pool into some sort of inner circle and also people that you can sacrifice.

So these outer people are most likely just regular rich and influential pedophiles. They come for the sex and to be around other rich and influential people.

Now I've been reading a lot of anthropology books recently and a lot of the discussion in these books has been about how people form and reinforce bonds and tribe. How you take a bunch of individuals or perhaps small groups of people and form them into a collective unit that defends and provides for one another. So you'll see this in certain kinds of cannibal societies for instance whether those societies are the more violent, eat your enemies kind of the more solemn, remembrance, funeral kinds. There's a ton of ink spilled on this and it's a fascinating subject, but the short of it is that it's not just cannibalism, but the violation of taboos. Not laws, because we're talking about the rich and influential, laws don't really apply to them. I'm talking about bedrock customs that we all take for granted as inviolable. Cheat on your taxes? Well that's just a law. No big deal to most of these people. Have sex with a pre-teen girl? Well, the violation of that taboo is intoxicating in the extreme for certain kinds of people. Also in tribes which break taboo, people can participate by proxy and still form and reinforce social bonds without directly participating directly in the breaking of taboo. So these societies tend to be extremely grounded in ritual and mysticism.

And before you call bullshit on me, this kind of behavior is extremely well documented in anthropology and I've sank a lot of time into studying culture, social bonds and how tribe is formed.

So I'd like to ask you a question. How do the truly powerful form bonds? Not just class consciousness, because they are all terrified of the poor and understand that they need to repress them in order to maintain their power.

So imagine a billionaire. Now unless you inherited that money, the odds are that you are a ruthless capitalist and you are engaging in at the very least, hyper-exploitation with your hands being soaked in blood by proxy as capitalism kills people through deprivation of the resources so you can accumulate it. And I have to stress, that accumulation is extremely disruptive and violent. So the most ruthless people tend to rise to the top. They trust few and in many cases, say if you're some "captain of industry", you're extremely wealthy, well connected and have a power base that can influence or threaten basically everyone around you, including governments. Especially if they start talking among one another. The "Business Plot" in which a bunch of wealthy capitalists tried to convince Smedley Butler to overthrow the government in a fascist coup comes to mind. When left to their own devices, the wealthy can and will get up to some extremely dirty tricks and will be disruptive in the extreme even on home soil.

So how do you form tribe among what are frankly, extremely violent, suspicious, powerful people? Gifts don't work, because there are very few things in the world that can't be bought. Influence doesn't create loyalty or friendships, though it can form working relationships. No, what I'm talking about is how do the powers that be tame these extremely powerful people? How do you form something beyond class consciousness with the most ruthless, influential, wealthy and powerful people on the planet? That's no small task.

My guess that it's multi-faceted. Epstein managed the accounts of tons of billionaires and there seemed to be no apparent reason why this happened. Blackmail comes to mind in the strain of a dead girl or a live boy sort of darkness. So you film these pedos at this island resort raping teens and pre-teens. Now capitalists don't have control over violence. They use the government as their proxy to do it for them. Militarizes are expensive. Police are expensive. Security is expensive. A corporation can hire some mercs, but keeping a bunch of them on hand long term is stupidly expensive. So if the government films you doing some serious taboo poo poo, they'll nail you to the wall and there's little you can do about it. But maybe...Maybe you just dump all of your money into this account. You can still draw from it, but now we're going to monitor your finances and what you do to make sure that you don't get up to any funny business. No more Business Plots for you, thanks. Oh also, we're going to be using this as a slush fund from now on. It turns out that it's easier to shake down billionaires who think they're invulnerable than sell drugs.

But blackmail causes resentment and if you cause to much of that, said resentment becomes hard to manage. You want people to buy in. And so, after doing a lot of research on Epstein, he seems like someone who has been made terminally strange. In his NYC mansion for example, he has a room dedicated to eyeballs. Yes, that is correct, eyeballs. Just a shitload of preserved eyeballs of British people for some reason. In the next room he has a leather room, that is to say, a room coated entirely in leather. Floor, ceilings, walls, everything you could sit on, any art, leather. And shortly before he died, he said that he wanted to have his head and penis frozen and preserved in a temple, possibly in case people ever figured out cryonics and how to revive people. But it was in his temple on Little Saint James.

My pet theory is that this inner circle of people was dabbling in what an anthropologist would consider tribal ritual and that Epstein, as the longest participant in this, eventually bought into the ritual so hard that he became terminally strange, like a Bond villain. I'm not saying that they're casting magic or performing mystic arts, though you'll find secret societies among the rich who do dabble in that in history. I'm talking about creating bonds and tribe among the richest, most ruthless people on the planet. And that the mechanism for doing so was to reach deep, deep into what has been proven, and it is the violation of what we as humans take for granted. Not just law, but something beyond law. Our customs, so deeply held that you soak it in through the culture. What we hold sacred as people.

Again, this is extremely well documented by anthropologists, so I'm not just talking out of my rear end. So these girls and probably boys aren't just sex objects. They are for some rich pedophiles, but for the elite among the elite, I theorize that it's possible that they're there to be ritualistically abused in order to create social bonds. I'm told that the feeling of participating in these taboo violating rituals is perhaps one of the pinnacles of the human experience, like cocaine on cocaine. It is ecstasy bordering on the religious and often sexual, it makes the impossible seem possible as taboo falls away, a high unlike any other. And what kind of experience borders on this? Few if any. Being in combat comes to mind, taking life, protecting the life of those around you and being protected in return. Cheating death, or maybe not. The sorts of bonds that this forms through the violation of taboos on violence and death form extremely powerful social bonds. But that behavior is high risk. Doing much the same through the violation of sexual taboos is far lower risk and can achieve much the same results.

I'm not sure if this is the case, but it does fit very neatly with what I've been studying about anthropology for the past couple of years and there aren't any contradictions inherent in this. It sounds nuts, but remember that the most powerful people on the planet were sexually abusing children for decades at the very least. The odds of a few of them either being or becoming extremely strange, not to mention that stupid amounts of wealth breaks your brain in certain ways, that a possible Eyes Wide Shut sex cult is possible. Especially when the person spearheading the operation is bizarre in the extreme.

Eyes Wide Shut pedophile sex cult is shocking, but the reasons for why it happened was mundane in the extreme: Control of power, money and influence of the wealthy, forming social bonds among the aristocracy and managing their boredom through wild displays of decadence. The how of how that happens is largely irrelevant. The powers that be want want control and an out of control billionaire aristocracy is extremely destructive.

Now I'm probably going to eat a sixer or more for this. I don't really care. I'll probably get some raised eyebrows and scorn for this. I don't really care. Scoffs too. Don't care. This is speculation, but it is grounded in human psychology and anthropology. I didn't just pull this from my rear end.

Bulgakov posted:

i accidentally started going down the court documents rabbit hole again earlier this evening and ended up with a zillion tabs and pdfs open and had to make a mad dash to the store to buy booze to drown my brain with so that I might be able to sleep within the next 72 hours

wish me luck

gregday posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1278677952419553280

A4R8 posted:

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mdemone posted:

yeah if she actually wanted to be hiding and totally incognito, there are worse places to choose on Earth than fuckin rural goddamn New Hampshire

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Another one I've heard: because Covid originated in August that this was Jeffrey Epstein's "fail-deadly" to ensure he could not be killed without exacting some kind of revenge on all of the people who either ordered it or benefited from it directly or indirectly, and that an incurable disease pandemic would be enough incentive to keep him alive at all costs by virtue of him being too big to implicate, and that musclehead Nicholas Tartaglioni singlehandedly and inadvertently doomed the human race with his unexpected vigilante action of killing Epstein

Mayor Dave posted:

https://twitter.com/lachancenaomi/status/1280517562653200386?s=09

TrixRabbi posted:

Given the tech nerd/VC crossover circles she hung around in I'm not the least bit surprised Ghislaine was an early adopter of Reddit. No idea if it actually factors into the trafficking or if she's just a poster who also happened to be a human trafficker, but amazing. Simply amazing.

Wasabi the J posted:

Perry Mason Jar posted:

The state is only an extension of the ruling class. While millions of Americans got laid off - thereby increasing the reserve army of labor and so too lowering their bargaining power - the stock market has been doing just fine. Billionaires saw their personal accounts (to say nothing of trusts, stocks, and bonds) grow by half a trillion collectively over the first few months of lockdown. $6 Trillion* of public wealth was just transferred into the hands of the ruling class. And this fall there's a fire sale on property and rental properties! Nearly 30 million Americans facing eviction come September, which will be great for snatching up property/land that the pesky proles have managed to hold onto, raise the rent on those occupied rent controlled units, and, again, further immiserate and make desperate the working class in hopes of putting everyone on subsistence level wages.

*Just for fun, because I really can't help doing this because it's such a kick - if you made a million dollars a DAY it would take you 16,438 YEARS to accumulate 6 trillion dollars.

MysteriousStranger posted:

There's a huge issue on the religious right that aliens cannot and must not exist because if aliens do exist that blows a giant loving hole in what angels could be, humanity being the most important thing and in gods image, and would tear down the Christian faith and wreck it in public. It would also blow holes in "that crap is all really just demons and angels so you have to do what we see with your sexy parts or demons will get you, and we must be in charge" logic which means more to them than anything.

We're sitting on a powder keg where people are willing to destroy the country and throw us all back into the stone age for Jesus so Christianity can control culture and social policy again. Introducing "there's poo poo in the sky, it's not from this world, and it's better than us" is really going to cause poo poo.

There's no real way to deal with Aliens and the greater population as long as religion, specifically Abrahamic religions exist at all.

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1288197000836419584?s=19

potential answer to why jeff was hired for dalton: perhaps his first job was supposed to be recruitment of certain kids from wealthy and ibfluential families. perhaps this was a non-starter, it would make too much noise. switch gears, change up, snap to: epstein procuring girls then using then to recruit other children to give him massages, then working up to sending them on kompromat missions. snap to: sexual abuse and degradation helping to break a subject's spirit as per MKUltra, making them more pliable assets.

Judge Dredd Scott posted:

https://twitter.com/PoorlyAgedStuff/status/1286356923999232005

lol

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