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 Boris Johnson is chosen as the new Conservative Party leader in a ballot of party members, beating Jeremy Hunt by 92,153 votes to 46,656, May resigned to the Queen. Meet the new shits, same as the old: Prime Minister, First Lord of the Treasury - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson Lord President of the Council - Jacob Rees-Mogg Chancellor of the Exchequer - Aynrand Eggman Home Secretary - Israel Holiday Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State - Rennie Raab Chancellor of Getting Stuck in the Privy - Michael Gove Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy - Andrea Leadsom Secretary of State for International Trade - Liz 'Drone Dogs' Truss Secretary of State for Starving Paups - Amber Rudd Minister without Portfolio - James, Cleverly  Federation of South African Women posted:Raids, arrests, loss of pay, long hours at the pass office, weeks in the cells awaiting trial, forced farm labor—this is what the pass laws have brought to African men … punishment and misery, not for a crime, but for the lack of a pass. We African women know too well the effect of this law upon our homes, upon our children. We who are not African women know how our sisters suffer … In The News  • The UK experiences its hottest July day on record, with a temperature of 38.1°C at Cambridge, beating the previous high of 36.7°C in July 2015 in Heathrow, west London.  • Liberty loses their court fight against the Investigatory Powers Act and bulk hacking, but vows to appeal. • Tommy Robinson is found guilty of contempt of court over a Facebook broadcast, he may have been decked by an OAP in prison. • Secretary of State for Justice David Gauke confirms that "Helen's Law" will be adopted in England and Wales, preventing people wrongly convicted in missing body murders from accessing parole while rewarding pathological liars. • MPs vote by 294 to 293 in support of requiring ministers to give fortnightly updates on the situation in Northern Ireland. (It's bad.) • The first fatal collision involving a motorized scooter (not a motor scooter) in Britain occurs, killing TV presenter and YouTuber Emily Hartridge in Battersea. • The Iranian Navy of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps captures British tanker Stena Impero and temporarily seizes British-operated and Liberian-flagged tanker Mesdar in the Persian Gulf. • Tory MP for Dover, Charlie Elphicke, is charged with three counts of sexual assault against two women. • Tory MP Mark Field has his charges for assaulting a protester dropped. • The Peterloo Massacre happened 200 years ago in a couple of weeks and there's some event's in Manchester. • 92 days until Brexit or something. • Planet's dyin' Cloud. August is that last flicker of fun and heat before everything fades and dies. The final moments of fun before the freeze. In the winter, everything changes. Augustus Egg UKMT July 2019 - A more cheerful Brexit/BBC for slutty communists All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter) Fort Augustus Abbey Europol Thread Scotpol Thread Trainchat Thread Political Cartoons Thread C-SPAM: BREXIT BYOB: UKMT August Alsina Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive. Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out. We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The UKMT-iest of Podcasts. Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts. Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out. Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good. Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news. Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests. Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests. [Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative. Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen. General Intellect Unit - Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists. Examining the intersection of Technology, (Left) Politics, and Philosophy; decently in-depth and theory-driven as podcasts go. Augustine of Hippo Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh Demanding The Impossible - David Morland Demanding the Impossible: A History of Anarchism - Peter Marshall Chav Solidarity - D. Hunter Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy At The Café – Malatesta The Method of Freedom – Malatesta In Praise of Idleness – Russell Political Ideals – Russell Declaration – Hardt and Negri Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo God and the State – Bakunin The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg Violence – Slavoj Zizek Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze Flat Earth News - Nick Davies Hack Attack - Nick Davies Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons Augusto Pinochet (thanks feedmegin) quote:I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land. The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto and UKMT goons) Join us on synIRC for Question Time Awfulness and Stuff #ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix). Lightning Knight posted:
learnincurve posted:Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this. https://twitter.com/MichaelPeterAnt/status/1155751505070362624
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Alternatively nobody can have cats  That's a good cat. Rarity posted:Good news, in a few more years winter won't exist any more. It will just be the constant heat of the Mad Max hellscape 24/7.  Eddy-Baby posted:
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The Morning Star. Downside, they might shovel fabricated transphobic and tankie bullshit down your throat. Also expensive.
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bump_fn posted:wait really? i thought it was just an oldschool trade union rag that sucks 
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I'd subscribe to a newspaper if it had as much news as this thread and regular derails about crisps and what goes up a butt and wasn't the Sunday Sport.
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Does the Goon Bugle fit up a butt?sebzilla posted:He's the best op, shame he was fired from his CBBC gig back in the day for being a big old lefty in danger of radicalising the kids.
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Shakespearean Beef posted:Spiked! Magazine
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Shakespearean Beef posted:I mean, they're the only left newspaper that have taken a principled stance against the stalinist/censorious tendencies of today's brand of ineffectual SJW liberalism. The dress in the real world hellscape looks nicer imo. namesake posted:Not on SA we aren't.
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Here's the clock but theirs is red if you want to Brexit cosplay and have £700 spare.
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Flavor Flav but the flavor is one that was banned in the EU in the 90s because of cancer. e: Benzophenone Flav
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Failed Imagineer posted:There's something so symbolic about buying this loving thing rather than just using a wall calendar that I can't quite put my finger on.
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The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.
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Comrade Fakename posted:New prime ministers always get a bump in the polls
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thespaceinvader posted:Isn't neoliberalism plus nationalism pretty much straight-up fascism though? It's just saying the quiet parts of neoliberalism out loud.
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Spangly A posted:at this point you should assume that expensive pastries exist purely to fill out a loss sheet 
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ThomasPaine posted:Can someone give me the sparksnotes on how Living Marxism went from ridiculously crude third-worldist 'anti-imperialism' to the turbo-conservative Spiked? It's such a fascinating transition that I'm sure follows some coherent progression but I've yet to find an account that doesn't assume some knowledge of the minutiae of 90s fringe-left groups and figures. There's also RCP Watch which is a longer archive, but does nothing but watch RCP/LM. Gum posted:Look up the origin of the word "privatisation" CGI Stardust posted:Very quick summary from what I remember: a part of their ideological core was that there was no working class proletariat in the first world, because it was being prevented from forming by excess regulation and restrictions on free speech etc. Workers would never develop the class consciousness required without removing those restrictions and regulations, so it was important to do so as fast as possible (accelerationist approach). Hence, easy shift into right-libertarianism, perhaps accelerated somewhat by their being bankrupted after claiming that the existence of the Trnopolje concentration camp was a lie, whoops 
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Not very big on using the values of Enlightenment Liberalism as a justification. Nor on enriching a transnational elite, they wrote pamphlets about that.
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Gum posted:Don't mistake differences in propaganda for differences in policy. Also fascism is mostly defined by its rhetoric and aesthetic, so it doesn't make much sense to say "other than the rhetoric it's fascism" any more than when the right says "other than the economics it's Marxism". It's possible for two very different bad systems to produce results that have superficial common factors without those systems being each other.
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ThomasPaine posted:It's has to be more complex than that. I very much doubt any fash would consider, say, Germany, France, or the Netherlands 'non-Western' despite them not speaking English by default. Failed Imagineer posted:Gabh mo leithscéal mo dhearthair, níl Béarla againn. Deirimid as Béarla ach amháin nuair a bhfuil obair le déanamh leis na Sasanaigh againn.
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Gum posted:It is a matter of (perceived) creed and culture and pseudoscientific attempts to establish common blood (White is the Aryan of The West). See my edit regarding language, that actually does tend to split modern fascists- see how some identify with Orban and LePen while others have no interest in these 'foreigners' Gum posted:Fascism, as in the movement that gained power in early 20th century, is defined by its rhetoric and aesthetic because if you strip that away you are just left with authoritarian capitalism. We are making the same point. "Masculinity is strength, we hate trans and gays, women need to procreate, men need to serve the state, everything fits into concrete classes and anything that doesn't appear to is a Talmudic abstraction invented by our enemies" is an aesthetic that is going to create a very different type of state to "look we're all equal and if certain types of people always end up getting shat on then it's probably because they didn't work hard enough" even if both are going to be varying degrees of poo poo for certain groups.
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Tesseraction posted:What is this actually mapping? Failed Imagineer posted:Na Sasanaigh beaga? Failed Imagineer posted:News to me, I've only ever heard that Irish was the majority language up until An Gorta Mór, which was most definitely a product of British imperialism.
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lemonadesweetheart posted:If by Catholic Church you mean the Tudors.  Seán De Fréine's The Great Silence talks about a lot of middle class Catholic families preferring English in the 1700s, probably to distance themselves from the poor, so the Church shifts, so Irish written works decline and bilingualism increases. Most of the working class are still going to be speaking Irish at home at that point though, which I'd imagine is the case up until Failed Imagineer posted:Edward Stanley establishing the National School system in the 1830s, which was a deeply-racist system of Irish cultural repression.
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lemonadesweetheart posted:There were also laws on the books prohibiting the use of the language in a number of different ways, so it's not just a matter of preference but of utility.
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 I was going to guess Spiked's Brendan O'Neill, but it's The Spectator and Christopher Caldwell. Gum posted:What's happening today is more than just "working with foreign movements". The alt-right is not a British movement working alongside an American movement working alongside a Canadian movement, ect. It is a single movement that sees itself as one people Gum posted:The more explicit rhetoric of fascism results in society reaching the end state of rigid social and ethnic hierarchies a lot quicker than the more implicit rhetoric of neoliberalism e: ^^^ also that
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Darth Walrus posted:Well, who is best girl?  Failed Imagineer posted:Yeah, there were Hedge Schools. But, you could be killed for teaching at a Hedge School, it wasn't really a case of "lol whatever" even in the People's Republic of Cork lemonadesweetheart posted:If by Catholic Church you mean the Tudors. Then you have the organized oppression of what types of schools and churches were allowed in the 19th century, which was very different. And from what I've read, a period in between with Anglo-Irish landlords and an English speaking Church and bilingual middle class but most workers speaking Irish at home, but idk the exact degree of organized oppression there.
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So thousands of new people joined the Labour party? Sounds good. Some small minority of those people are racists? Sounds bad but par for the course in Britain. Some of those people were only exposed as racists through social media use? Welcome to 2019. Where's the bit where it spreads 'like a virus' and non-racist Labour members are now racist Mandy?
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Failed Imagineer posted:I guess a lot of the Penal Laws were a response to the Gunpowder Plot If I could travel back as a non apparition I'd tread on the first thing that tried to come out of the sea. e: ^^^ Isn't the "NHS touting to wealthy non-EU people to pay to get operations done in British hospitals" a real thing though, since they cut funding and increased the allowed percentage of paid work? And the BXP tosser is just confusing problems of capitalism with problems of immigration as always. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Are you completely sure that's not what happened to him anyway? 
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forkboy84 posted:A 2010 study suggest about £21bn. Add in the sort of insanely incompetent budgeting that saw HS2 go from £20bn to a predicted £85bn and you're probably easily looking in the £40-50bn range. And I'm not even sure if that figure includes the cost of cleaning up Beaufort's Dyke. feedmegin posted:I mean, to be fair, the only reason they don't is because they were part of the Belgian empire not ours and thus speak French. Although with The Pale existing, I suppose it's more like a bunch of EDL twats wandering around rural Zimbabwe shouting "speak English". Bobby Deluxe posted:I like the casual conflation of social media and antisemitism, the third reich having famously organised crystalnacht via loving whatsapp. Bobby Deluxe posted:it sounds like two dudes giving each other reacharounds
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Undead Hippo posted:Anglo-Irish Landlords were not just a 19th century thing. They were a 12th century thing. It's not just the Pale as the pre-Tudor area of English influence. In the areas of the Irish earldoms(large swathes of what is now the republic) the legal system was common law as opposed to native Brehon law, English was common and the lords were taking their direction from the English monarchy, down to getting involved in all the squabbles like the war of the roses and the barons revolt. Gum posted:cheddar man did nothing wrong  Cheddar Man, killed by the first 'ra man.e: ^^^ Picts might disagree.
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I might consider choking back the vomit and voting Tory if Johnson had a plan to float the UK down to the West Caribbean. Sideways just west of the Turks and Caicos.
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GB would nestle comfortably on its side with Scotland just west of the Turks and Caicos and Cornwall reaching down to Montserrat. Or upright to the west of all the islands with Montserrat one of the Western Isles and Trinidad and Tobago off of Cornwall. Prefer the first one but either's better than the current location.
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OwlFancier posted:Given the thread's geographic distribution the accents would be awful.
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https://twitter.com/katzmandu/status/1156968408430383106 I can't tell if he's mocking her or is honestly the dumbest gently caress ever who thought that Marx said everything should be free immediately when even Kropotkin didn't say that or it's a parody account or what. Ms Adequate posted:the scummiest prole school the Midlands has to offer Select your ooyah fighter.
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ThomasPaine posted:Most of the people who comment on her stuff are in a big circlejerk so I'd go with the latter. "I'm a lovely liberal capitalist and I live in lovely liberal capitalism, this means everyone should live as ideologically consistent a life as me." Like gently caress, I've known antifascists who literally used to be in the loving BNP skins, until they realized that their ideology was poo poo and challenged themselves, everyone is a mess of contradictions and the best thing we can do is 'be less of a oval office' and I've more respect for people that realized that than those that never had to bother. The unexamined life is not worth living because otherwise you end up like Francis Tweeter. WhatEvil posted:So he's a very UKMT thing: If not then I'll save chips and curry sauce.
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happyhippy posted:There was a brexiteer on O'Briens show a few weeks ago saying the UK should go back to using newspaper for chips.
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Julio Cruz posted:definitely subscribing to UKMP if it'll teach me how to cook meth Ms Adequate posted:Please, I have some standards. e: AlbaWhiteWolf. Still definitely non nazifur.
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