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Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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the OP Anidav deserves

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Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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starkebn posted:

As if the nicotine industry would let our government stop it's biggest demographic from smoking

Probably solved. There's already a fine balance between the price of a pack of smokes and the absolute maximum a pensioner can just afford.

Big supers already know they are going to do their shop at Aldi so tobacco is where they make it up.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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e: too late

Graic Gabtar fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Sep 10, 2019

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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video games

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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amongst all this ruin we can only hope that many, many boomer nomads were caught on back roads

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Big Willy Style posted:

Yeah don't do this. Private hospitals will basically bully women into having c sections so everything can be planned nice and neat. If anything serious actually goes wrong they're gonna send you to a public hospital anyway.

This is all probably true, but isn’t always the case. You just need to do your diligence. We were kind of herded into private as the public hospitals around us were going through a form slump and we had picked a couple of specialists who only worked out of private.

They were c-section as a last resort encouraging natural birth (nothing but awe struck respect for anyone who has gone through child birth in any number of ways).

We went natural, natural (30min after arrival), full catastrophe emergency c-section and scheduled (no choice) and they didn’t miss a beat.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Whitlam posted:

I didn't/don't go to Monash so I don't really have a horse in this race, but I've got a friend who does who says last time a party of only international students got in they campaigned only in Mandarin, used the money to fund their own private dinners, and basically eroded the trust and culture of the union. No idea how true it is (fwiw said friend speaks Mandarin and has lived in China), but if it is true (or if it's a perception shared by a chunk of the student body) then yeah I can see why they'd want to avoid a repeat. Plus yeah, the whole Hong Kong/Uyghur/Beijing influence thing.

I bet they're pining for the days when they only had to fight upstart societies over a slice of those sweet, sweet fees for our massive piss-ups at the racecourse hotel

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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I drove up to our nation’s capital from Melbourne today.

Dropped into Gundagai for a “world famous” pie in time to see a bunch of school kids marching up the main drag protesting. They were having a ball.

Some hilarious expressions on the faces of some old fucks having complete brain snaps.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Guilt by Facebook...

https://m.facebook.com/vicsocialists/posts/3316370541769573

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Hollandia posted:

In this instance, JBP is right.

if these are the straws people are grasping at then wow

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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the only thing that could come of this is that a semi-prominent figure from the left will retweet it and the right wing media will have a field day that the greens are calling the pm's wife a white supremacist

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

Wesfarmers and Woolworths like the food supply chain to be susceptible to bullying, so they're not vertically integrated in most cases. Huge corps own many farms, but a lot of them are still disparate medium sized businesses. Most of the fresh food production in Victoria comes from medium sized "family" businesses across the east and the supermarkets only really kick in after bagging and final product. Same goes for meat outside of Woolies having a new meat packing shed in Tarneit.

Wesfarmers spun off coles about a year ago, just saying.

Coles have a massive meat plant somewhere in nsw so they can tick boxes on humane slaughtering, hormone free and paddock to plate narrative etc. It also allows expensive discounting and loss leads that no supplier would bear. Hint: supermarkets don't put their hands in their own pocket for sale prices. Meat has also turned into a big export game to China and everyone is ramping up.

The supers pretty much run the same line with independent growers with near exclusive deals. And yes, they are portrayed as "family" businesses.

Don't agree that it's all care and no responsibility though. It's not unusual for retailers to spring for interest free loans to allow farmers to invest in plant. If you look at Aldi they go to crazy lengths to assess the efficiency and effectiveness of their supply chain. E.g. if they find something like poo poo packaging affecting produce they will invest in the supplier to improve it and then let them use the IP as long as it isn't for competitors. The producer also wins as they get a better return for doing very little.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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you need better hobbies

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

Someone else sent it to me. Do you actually think I search for anything myself lmao

i’m not going to pull that thread

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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bowmore posted:

excited for rates to hit zero

watch them start flirting with the idea of negative rates because the funds start screaming that they have nowhere left to invest

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Zenithe posted:

My term deposit matures in a few days can't wait to see how much lower term deposit interest rates are next time!

e. also low interest rates are bad for super right?

can’t wait for endless ACA segments on boomers pulling life savings out of TDs to sink it into and then lose on ‘15% guaranteed’ schemes flogged by dodgy financial advisors

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:



Sign me up imo

you try to tell people today that there was a government backed pyramid scheme called 'pyramid' that blessed us with a 'pyramid' tax and and for some reason they look at you funny

JBP posted:

Someone else sent it to me. Do you actually think I search for anything myself lmao

okay

apparently the HK police are now shooting at protesters for a change of pace

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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i like chinese food

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

Be careful on income protection. Some of them charge more over two years than they'll pay out.

Income protection is poo poo. There are so many outs it’s only good for healthy people who will never need it.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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fauna posted:

the hong loch in parkes nsw was the gold standard of outback chinese. the owners' son was my age and he pretended to bully me at school for social status in the mildest possible way and was really nice to me otherwise, it was cute and i played along because i knew he'd probably get beaten up by his "friends" if i didn't. but aside from that, the food was of an excellent quality and the vegetables tangibly fresher than the competitors'

drat, I was in Parkes for a few days in July. Anything would be better than the Chinese in my part of Melbourne.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

Move to the west and eschew inferior Chinese food for the much tastier Vietnamese cuisine.

no amount of tasty Vietnamese will convince me to commute into sun glare

prefer to drive to Parkes

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

Ew do you drive? Well, I'm sorry but you're not invited.

says someone who probably can’t afford a ‘97 Hyundai Excel because they had to buy into seddon

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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fauna posted:

do not for any reason go to parkes

i know the white central west well and it's going to be interesting in the most awful way to see how they "adapt" to climate change, because they have never been able to adapt to any other challenge, however small

well we went up for the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing so probably won’t be rushing back

from a very limited sample set can’t argue with you. stayed in a farmhouse and the owner was lamenting three hard years without rain with the only solutions being a) wait for rain b) can’t wait any longer so carve off some acreage to flog off and wait some more

JBP posted:

How do these things work? Is it basically a tube where you cuff yourself to a bar and fill it with concrete or something? Adani uses Ghandi in their ads and that sounds v Ghandi.

ghandi with an anti-houdini shens twist

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Don Dongington posted:

Why is it so hard to get a beer in Melbourne that isn't a $15/pint xPA, Goze, or Carlton draught these days?

I blame JBP for this gentrification.

it all turned to poo poo when the elms family hotel was sold to developers a few years ago

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

What's this imaginary world where you could get something other than a CD lol (except the bad years when Tooheys bought pubs and enforced the service of New until they all closed down due to lack of interest)

every trashy beer barn in town serves fat yak

those were dark days. tooheys red was worse - like shards of loving glass that stuff

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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try vaping

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Nanpa posted:

Is Tooheys red Tooheys old? Because that wasn't too bad last time I found it.

oh poo poo no, not that at all. foul chemical taste, couldn't pour a head even if you shot it out of a fire hose. best served in 30 can blocks for a boozy house share party.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

Professor Gary Martin, CEO the Australian Institute of Management, joins Luke Grant to discuss baby boomers forming part of a new and growing movement… and it’s putting traditional retirement plans into a spin.

Baby boomers, whose current ages fall within the 55 to 75 bracket, are happily outing themselves as failed retirees and forming part of a new and growing movement – variously called the unretirement, re-wirement, re-aspirement or the re-hirement bandwagon – by denoting a return to the workforce in some shape or form.

Generation Unretired, Generation U or just Gen U’ers are taking a newer and fresher perspective and revisiting, reimagining and reinventing that third and final phase of their lives.

Just as our day-to-day pre-retirement life can no longer be divided into work and personal because they blur into one, Gen U’ers take the view that retirement no longer simply means you have to stop work.

i have a VIC-20 that says otherwise

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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JBP posted:

Rich people have flooded into every area in which I have dwelt. I am the vanguard.

you leave, property values go up. checks out.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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besides gluing yourself to a road anyone know what other ways the XR event in melbourne needs support? open to non self harm suggestions.

Anidav posted:

I like how the federal election result made Queensland Labor so broke brained that Annastacia Palaszczuk is now Judge Dredd throwing hippies into the cubes.

Hmmmm.

I think I hate the Labor Party.

time to burn that election merch

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Literally every meeting or action or gathering of any kind begins with an acknowledgement of original ownership and that the land was never ceded.

only because it's not usually phrased quite that way

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Anidav posted:

No. The merch was for Bill.

you have to let it go anidav - just like hoping for HL3

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Anidav posted:

Maybe in this present time, comrade General.

But you see...TIME is on our side

*Red Alert 3*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1N8oxUs6aQ

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Recoome posted:

I obviously own neck ties because I pick my clothes to the occasion and not shoehorning bowties where they aren't appropriate

best not to wear a bow tie to court.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Anidav posted:

Let me say this. I've been around this series of threads for a long time. Posters are often slight exaggerations of their true selves. You are welcome to come back and disagree with people in this thread and call them out if you believe they are arguing in bad faith. You need to note that Something Awful, the politics section and indeed this thread is one of the very few places where you can have a multi page discussion that does not devolve into mudslinging and hateful anarchy. The standard I see for this thread series is that it is welcome to have discussions, its own culture and inside jokes but I will always refuse to allow it to disintegrate into an absolute Reddit or 4chan level shitfest where everyone is an enemy or the other football team.

You got to note that we here are preserving a version of the internet that allows usernames to be representatives from various walks of life and it is not linked to a social media account or part of a chain of anonymous posts. It is part of another chapter of an endless book that generally comes to eventual consensus but it can only do that if it does not allow for polarization that has been popularized by newer versions of internet communities.

The internet does not need another platform for people to tell everyone else to poetically go gently caress themselves. Talk it out, agree and or disagree but the kind of posting that turns slapfights into grudges should not be welcome here.

We will certainly drive out people who are clearly trolls or professional devil's advocates and reaction harvesters but you or anyone else should not reach for that tool towards posters who have previously contributed factual and helpful posts for the benefit of others.

Do not gently caress up this endless book.

I hope you can contribute to it with us soon.

2015 calls me an absolute hypocrite because I drink and talk poo poo, but very nicely put.

You guys are all pretty lucky here. I've seen the absolute loving worst that the Internet has to offer day after day and this really is one of the last bastions of informed discussion.

It also allows me to express my hatred of boomers without shame.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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I'm curious what people actually thought happened to these horses. Giving an animal a name is pretty much always just prolonging the inevitable.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Brown Paper Bag posted:

https://www.facebook.com/13561467463/posts/10157468612267464/

Liberal Party makes a post about the end of the white australia policy.

Thank you for reminding me again why I don't use facebook.


Anidav posted:

Opposition leader Anthony Albanese will target steel workers in his escalating battle with unions over free trade deals, in a move that sets the Labor movement up for one of its largest policy splits in a decade.

Former Australian Council of Trade Unions president Simon Crean has also urged union leaders to see the bigger picture, arguing free trade deals are good for workers and the economy.

How good is ScoMo for life!?

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Nutsak posted:

Most people don't seem to understand that Afterpay is just like Lay-by except you get your stuff first. The reason the media loving hates it is because the banks hate it and don't know how to adjust to another market taking people away from credit cards ( because they're too dumb to advertise that credit cards are a great way to pay for your Afterpay.. . )

Banks, credit card companies and governments hate Afterpay because they can't work out how to get a taste. It's Uber all over again.

Merchants just love it. Hundreds of thousands of customers getting (from their perspective) risk free credit to buy poo poo that they might have otherwise put on lay-buy. Lay-buys can be a massive risk as items become un-cool, lay-buys are broken and they have to sell items at a discount.

People gaming the now defunct Target toy sale nearly destroyed them. People would gamble on what would be popular come Christmas, buy multiples of each and wait. They would break lay-buys of dud purchases, buy only what they wanted and then sold their extra on eBay to pay for Christmas. Lay-buy also takes up an insane amount of dead floor space, packaging and handling. Also, return processes can be a bit abrasive with Afterpay so people are more likely than not to keep what they buy compared to cash/card.

Credit card companies fear the disruption as they completely missed the boat on BNPL and that these apps just bury your payment details in the app. There is no reminder of brand there - which they hate. And of course as Afterpay is doing their own risk scoring and limit your spending amount. If you can make the repayments you are much more likely to pay down your credit card and not being a card company wet dream of what they call a 'revolving balance' which means you're just not supposed to ever get off the interest merry-go-round.

The banks biggest gripe is that they have been wedged out of the acquirer market. In traditional bricks and mortar the merchant will be hit by fees by the bank who has provided an EFT pin pad. If people aren't using it, they get bypassed.

The thing that will put a bit of a hand break on all of this is that regulations just do not cover this well and there's a grey area on whether BNPL is a form of cash advance and not a purchase.

So once all those loopholes are closed and Afterpay's ticket is clipped by someone all of these problems will melt away by magic.

Sorry for the word salad.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Zenithe posted:

I didn't know these people existed, but these people sound like the absolute worst.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Christmas is hard for some people and if buying toys for your kids revolves atound lay-buy purchases it’s pretty easy to pick and exploit holes in the system.

The biggest problem is people who simply cancel their heavily discounted lay-buys.

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Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

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Being John Malkovich Bill Shorten

Forced to live a life looking through Scott Morrison’s eyes.

Graic Gabtar fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Oct 22, 2019

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