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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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https://www.vox.com/world/2019/9/23/20880639/france-germany-uk-iran-saudi-statement

quote:

France, Germany, and UK say Iran is responsible for attacks on Saudi Arabia

“It is clear for us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack,” the leaders of the three European powers said. “There is no other explanation.”

Well poo poo.

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Strange Poon posted:

Watch the Democrats grow a spine then get real bold only to have Trump die on the shitter.

I feel like if he died in office it would be a Bad Thing because then the media will be filled with articles like:

“We need unity now, let’s stand behind Pence and be civil.”

“That is no way to talk about a dead man, leave him and the family alone to grieve.”

“Remembering Trump: his most presidential moments.”

And then all of the investigations dropped because “it’s rude” or whatever.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Wark Say posted:

The kids are alright. gently caress yeah they are. :3:

As :3: and feel good as that is, the point she’s making with her activism is that we need to do something now, because if we don’t it doesn’t matter that the “kids are alright.” It’s not enough to post on social media about how awesome she is or how you can sleep better at night knowing the next generation could be better people than us. Those are just words. We need action, and we needed it yesterday, but today is all we have so we need to do something today instead of punting it into the future.

Edit: not saying you’re not doing anything or calling you out specifically, but yeah that’s kind of her whole point. She doesn’t want words or thoughts or prayers. She doesn’t want anyone’s condescending “wow she’s amazing and only 16” praises. She wants action.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Sep 24, 2019

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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cr0y posted:

This is a recurring theme and its super creepy and gross and I am not sure if they are all pervs or are just too stupid to realize how creepy they sound.

Although I remember the super weird fetishy poo poo that came out with Hogg so I guess they might just be closet pedophiles.

And like, the rest of “the west” have come to the conclusion that spanking children is harmful, has lasting (negative) impacts, and is no better if not worse than other methods of punishment/reward.

But say that spanking children is bad on any right wing shitsite (like reddit) and you will be called dumb and stupid and be met with the rage and anger normally given to bicyclists, and given thousands of anecdotes about how they are totally fine despite daddy breaking their legs for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar.

So these people saying she needs to be spanked are literally advocating for something that doesn’t even happen where she comes from.

Edit: Which is amazing to think about because these same shitheads are always talking about how we need to follow the law of the land or to not impose stuff like “”””sharia law”””” on people but they turn around and do the same thing wanting to impose arcane punishment like torture (read: solitary confinement) and spanking children on other peoples, not to mention wanting to be ruled by gods laws whatever that is.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Sep 24, 2019

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Wark Say posted:

No, I totally understand. I can't unfortunately do much, but I do help with what little I can.

It's more that, I dunno, like it feels good (and also pretty funny, too) when someone like Bernie straight up says Trump is a madman in dereliction of his duties or Chrissy Teigen calls Trump the petty bitch or whatever she called him, because he totally is: This fuckbag is sitting in the highest office in the land and can't even pretend to stay out of his comfort bubble for one loving hour. But when Greta basically handles Trump and his base's insults like a loving champ, it's really, really hard not to want to feel hopeful to look at young peeps like her, Emma González, the Hogg and such make you feel like "Yeah, we can totally do this".

Something that you, and most people, can do right now is to stop eating meat. That alone is probably the biggest most impactful thing any of us without money or power can do.

Stopping is maybe asking too much though for most people, so the next best thing is to eat less meat.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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He’s too far gone it’s not even worth it.

Arglebargle III posted:

WRT climate change, consumer choice action is a bad joke. A single fracking site emits more greenhouse gas in an afternoon than you could save in a year.

Either the apparatus of the state is on the side of the genociders or it isn't.

I hate this thought process because you’re technically right none of us have the power to make changes that Nestle could if they wanted but so what? So loving what?

Did you see the video of Greta being asked by some dipshit about how why we should do things like pick up trash in the ocean when other countries aren’t going to stop dumping it there? Greta’s response was that in Sweden they say the same thing, why should they, a small country, do much if anything when a bigger country like the US won’t join in.

So yeah, why bother doing things like eating less meat when Nestle and Fracker McFrackson and other big corporations are gonna keep polluting 🤦‍♂️

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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fool_of_sound posted:

The next best thing is 'stop eating beef', because beef ranching is worse that almost all other human agriculture combined.

Yeah that’s true. But asking someone to stop eating beef is like asking someone to stop eating meat. The idea of such a massive change means most people won’t bother.

Eat less meat is an easier message to sell though.

Arglebargle III posted:

True, I will stop driving my 50 million consumer cars and eating my 20 million head of cattle each year. Too bad even I with my superpowers cannot stop the other 71% of climate emissions. If only there was some entity capable of restraining people by formal codes backed by a monopoly on violence.

You’re right. It’s pointless to do anything. Might as well not bother. 🤦‍♂️

theflyingorc posted:

By your own numbers, if we managed to knock Agriculture down to effectively 0...we're still at 90% of emissions. If we all start walking everywhere instead of using personal vehicles, we're at like...70%. Which is a big difference, but also does not solve the problem. The long term trick is making it so that modern society's needs come from sources that don't spew carbon.

I don’t know if you know this, but modern society is made up of people like you and me, and if enough people get together and do a Thing then society changes.

mango sentinel posted:

Individual consumers are incapable of stopping this, it requires government intervention to change.

Shut up.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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ColdPie posted:

Just to be clear: nobody said that it is.

Yeah it’s not an either/or thing ffs. We can do poo poo like stop eating meat while at the same time demanding our politicians to enact policies. Stop being so negative and nothing matters because you’re just wrong.

Something to think about : some years back Bernie was a “radical socialist” and “socialism” was evil and nobody wanted “socialism” and nobody talked about it. Today we have young progressive “socialists” making headlines, writing laws, inspiring others to follow their footsteps, “socialism” is no longer a taboo subject, and communities like this one is full of people that would identify as “socialist.”

That didn’t start from the top. This came from a movement of people who got the message and pushed for it, normalizing it. This came from little people like us.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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theflyingorc posted:

You seem to be doing an excellent job of missing the point.

So tell me what’s the point?

That banning straws, choosing to eat less meats, etc, doesn’t really do anything because there are companies out there that put out more pollution that dwarf what we can affect?

That in order for something to be impactful, that it needs to be directed top-down from world governments?

Yeah I got those points.

Who controls the companies? People do.

Who controls the governments? People do.

Why should those companies and countries do anything if we the people don’t make it clear that this is what we want?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Arglebargle III posted:

Consumer choice is not going to make enough of a difference in the limited time available. That's a huge understatement. Stop eating beef and bike to work if it makes you feel better but recognize that that's all you're going to accomplish: making yourself feel better.

Do you not understand that one person making an individual consumer choice will affect other people, hopefully spurring them the do the same, which given enough people will start a movement, which will make their voices heard, which could affect more action like full-scale boycotting, which would force the CEOs of companies to do take some kind of action?

How many people seriously called for impeachment 2 years ago? How many called for it 1 year ago? How many today?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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theflyingorc posted:

"My solution to gun policy is personally not owning a gun"

Again, we can all do all of the things to"lower our footprint", and climate change will still happen at a barely detectably different rate. "At least I'm rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" isn't an argument.

“My solution to gun policy is personally not owning a gun and also advocating for laws so that nobody can own guns.”

Fixed that for you.

Arglebargle III posted:

No, I don't understand this. If this theory of change actually worked we wouldn't be where we are now.

I don’t even know where to begin :wtf:

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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I watched the video and I’m pretty sure that Rudy was just holding up the phone and saying “it’s all here” as in “all the conversations are right here on this phone.”

That iPhone he has automatically lights up when picked up and pointed at anything.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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I can’t wait to see who else he throws under the bus.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Who is peter daou

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Didn’t he use to say AOC+4?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Nihilarian posted:

i hadnt heard that

If you just google like “Manafort daughter text messages” then you’ll find the transcripts of his two daughters talking candidly about how much of a monster their dad is. It’s :nms: though.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Revelation 2-13 posted:

Gen x, boomer millennial... are not actual things friends. No real science supports the distinctions. They’re mostly made up by bad journalists to pretend there is some deep similarities depending on birth year, to write headline which sells, and now taken over by management consultants to sell new made up bullshit to dumb CEOs.

There aren’t any deep similarities based on birth year. It’s other things; geography, societal structure, class, race, changes in technology, changes in culture etc. and it loses all meaning when described as ‘generation’. It’s one of those things which makes intuitive sense, like race science used to for a lot of people, but it’s not because it’s actually valid, it’s because it supports your own preferences and rooted biases. Using the generational concept and pretending it’s a meaningful category and can be used to explain something/anything, is inherently reductionist, produces a catastrophic lack of nuance, and also perpetuate myths about people which leads to bigotry and feeling insecure and outside, social anxiety etc. For example, if you don’t fit into the categories the morons at Pew Institute came up with and presented as reality in order to sell more of their product, you might end up thinking that something is wrong with you, especially as idiotic journalists keep producing novelty articles about how all millennials are like this, and how that’s different from the new generation spaceforce and so on and so on.

All those words you used… are not actual things. They were made up by people looking for ways to talk about things to other people using a shared vocabulary and language so that they don’t have to painstakingly describe each thing they wanted to talk about.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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When they say “a White House official says” what counts as an official again? Like does the dishwasher in the kitchen count as one?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...82d2_story.html

quote:

Acting homeland security chief frustrated and isolated — even as he delivers what Trump wants at the border

Nearly six months after taking over the Department of Homeland Security as acting secretary, Kevin McAleenan has guided the United States out of a crisis at the southern border, but he also says he has lost command of the public messaging from his department and lacks some of the authority he was promised when he took the job.

[...]

But he acknowledged that he is losing the battle to keep DHS, which he views as a neutral law enforcement agency, from being used as a powerful tool for a partisan immigration agenda.

“What I don’t have control over is the tone, the message, the public face and approach of the department in an increasingly polarized time,” he said in an interview with The Washington Post. “That’s uncomfortable, as the accountable, senior figure.”

McAleenan was referring to recent DHS appointees who won their jobs after advocating aggressively for the president on television: Mark Morgan, the acting head of CBP, and Ken Cuccinelli, the acting USCIS director, who is rumored as a potential replacement for McAleenan.

I’m shocked that trump isn’t keeping his promise to him, and its precious that he thinks DHS is a neutral law enforcement agency :allears:.

But he feels uncomfortable with him losing the messaging of his department while being the face of it, having his name forever associated with this, and also being a potential fall man. Someone should send him some thoughts and prayers.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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FuturePastNow posted:

I'm pretty sure this was already posted in the thread, but:

https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1179138038464540674

It's rumor/hearsay but it's certainly plausible Trump has some dirt on Lindsey. I mean just look at him

Are you trying to say that gay people have a certain “look”? That’s homophobic and gross as gently caress.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Is that Kellyanne’s husband and if so why doesn’t he have a checkmark?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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friendbot2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/eatinginmycar/status/1179198609222447106

This made me crack up in my office and it just really hits that schadenfreude button

Okay so I get that seeing pictures of a cop-murderer crying at her sentencing is good schadenfreude. As is seeing two nazis face beaten in. And celebrating the fact that a republican is dead sure.

But come the gently caress on man, celebrating the fact that someone is being a normal person and looking devastated at the loss of her dad? What the gently caress is wrong with you?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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It’s cool guys the senate will send a strongly worded letter asking to please not do it.

Problem solved. Diplomacy is so easy!

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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quote:


The Turkish owner of Trump Towers Istanbul, who pays Trump for the use of his name, was reported in December 2015 to be exploring legal means to dissociate the property after the candidate's call to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S. [4] In June 2016, Turkish President Erdogan has been reported to call for the removal of the Trump name from the towers, saying "Trump has no tolerance for Muslims living in the US. And on top of that they used a brand in Istanbul with his name. The ones who put that brand on their building should immediately remove it."[5]

It looks like Erdoğan wanted the owner to get rid of the Trump name at some point.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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friendbot2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/MeetMckayla/status/1181287422996422658?s=19

Just your daily reminder that Mckayla Wilkes is primarying Steny Hoyer.

Wait a minute … are all tv shows and movies lying about getting a free phone call?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Rincewinds posted:

What if they remove the CEO bonuses?

How do you expect to attract talent if you only give CEOs 7 figure salaries, corner offices, access to company car(s) and driver(s), free helicopter rides, and a private jet? I mean what idiot would take that offer?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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DandyLion posted:

How about 2 harems!? I dunno man, just spit-balling. There has to be some solution.

We are clearly too dumb and lazy to figure out the solution to this problem.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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TulliusCicero posted:

That's fair then. I can agree with that. I think it's pretty lovely for the ex-husband to do this though

It’s not just pretty lovely, revenge porn is pretty loving illegal.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Can’t you just like… take them to any pharmacy and have them throw it away if you really wanted to do that?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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What’s the context for the other 99% of us who don’t watch wrestling because all I see is a tweet selling a shirt or something

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Retro42 posted:

You can’t equate the two though. What she did was bad judgement and dumb but not illegal. Revenge porn is a crime.

Nobody is equating the two. Both things are bad. Having a relationship with your employee is bad. Posting revenge porn is bad. Nobody is saying they are just as bad. They are both bad.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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TyroneGoldstein posted:

With the amount of money spent on trying to find any dirt on the last Administration, if that tape existed, you would have already heard about it. They just drummed a member of congress who was ostensibly in a poly relationship OUT OF CONGRESS after she was revenge porn'd by her husband.

She's the victim and she ended up resigning.

If that poo poo existed, you would have seen it already.

She’s a victim in the sense of being a victim of revenge porn.

That fact is completely separate from her being unethical and loving a subordinate, which is what she is in trouble for/resigned over.

There are two separate things here why is it so hard to understand? Regardless of whether or not the revenge porn aspect ever came to light she still did an unethical and bad thing and should most definitely resign over it.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Lightning Knight posted:

I don't think you can separate one from the other nor do I think you can say she only resigned for one.

Truthfully I didn't know who Hill was before this debacle and I would say that yes, she should resign, but also this is an actual example of a Republican hit job on a Democratic politician, regardless of how good/not good that politician may have been. That context is relevant even if the outcome of her resigning is still the correct decision.

I agree that the context does matter, and I didn’t mean that they should be treated as two entirely different things but that there are two things here:

1) Hill loving a subordinate, which is unethical,

2) Hill’s ex (I presume) selling revenge porn, which is illegal.

Regardless of 2, she should have resigned for 1. It may be true that if 2 didn’t happen then she would have never needed to resign for 1, but that doesn’t make 1 okay nor does/should it give her a pass.

This is like people apologizing for something “if it was offensive.” You don’t apologize on a condition, you apologize unconditionally. Otherwise you’re only apologizing because you got caught. How they got caught doesn’t really factor into whether or not they should apologize for doing a bad thing.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Charlz Guybon posted:

But by responding you're subscribing to his newsletter.

My email address is tubgirl@goatse.cx.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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haveblue posted:

Read the whole article- he's not leaving the post until well after all of this is said and done.

It’s literally the first sentence of the story when you click it.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Amazing Zimmo posted:

https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/1190799541240520704

Wusses, wimps and weasels would be a great gang tag

Nice to see how well the Be Best and anti-bullying campaign is working.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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Barry Foster posted:

I'm not joking or being a dick when I say you almost certainly can't. Your diagnosis is correct - the realities are incommensurable, and even if you find some common ground you came to it from different places and you'll be going to different places afterwards.

These people can't be reasoned with or converted, only defeated. It sucks when it's people close to you, but the only way I've found to deal with is to never talk about politics with them, and if they try to anyway (they will) remove yourself from the situation. Fake a phone call, go to the toilet, whatever it takes. For your own health, frankly.

Or sever

Mock them and call them stupid

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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TulliusCicero posted:

Isn't Arizona like Florida but the desert for snow bird horrible boomer fucks? Little surprise there

Like the poster said, Tucson is different so its honestly pretty surprising.

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

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CubanMissile posted:

https://twitter.com/sharsaysso/status/1192138725523746816?s=21

Wow. This will probably inspire those purity ball motherfuckers and other conservatives.

what


what the gently caress

quote:

T.I. also noted that he was informed the hymen can be broken in ways other than through sexual penetration. "And so then they come and say, ‘Well, I just want you to know that there are other ways besides sex that the hymen can be broken like bike riding, athletics, horseback riding, and just other forms of athletic physical activity,'" he said. "So I say, ‘Look, Doc, she don’t ride no horses, she don’t ride no bike, she don’t play no sports. Just check the hymen, please, and give me back my results expeditiously.'"

His results. What the gently caress this is gross.

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