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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

New thread means I thought I'd take a look, didn't realize Picard was so close to coming out, that's awesome!

I watched the first season of Discovery and wasn't really wowed... then I found out it wasn't actually the first season, they'd taken one of those bizarre season breaks a lot of American shows seem to do and there was like a whole other half of the season, so I never got around to catching up.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Spock and the crew of the USS Enterprise helping out Discovery.

Wait hang on, what? Isn't Discovery set before TOS?

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

For whatever reason I thought Spock didn't come on till very late in Pike's run as Captain, since he was the only one who survived the transition through to Kirk's crew, so that line caught me by surprise.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I was underwhelmed by the first episode of Strange New Worlds but I was encouraged to give it another chance and man the 2nd and 3rd episodes are way, way, way better and definitely have a classic Trek feel to them.

I gave up on Discovery at whatever point it was in the first season that an episode ended with the Chief Engineer(?) having a mirror version sneering at him from a mirror, the series just wasn't doing it for me at all. Did it get better/is it more like Strange New Worlds? Because if it is it seems worth catching up on, but if it's more of the same I guess I'll just stick with the voyages of the Starship Enterprise and it's 5 year mission to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before :hmmyes:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

That was my assumption, yeah. Spock says something like,"Even in death, they wanted their intentions known."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

drat that was good. Some good ol' fashioned submarine poo poo.

You can see why Spock ended up getting on so well with Kirk, the road was paved for him to accept all that crazy nonsense Kirk got up to by Pike pulling poo poo like dropping an unguided photon torpedo on top of an enemy ship and surfing the accretion disk of a black hole.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I did like the "Who says something like that?" reaction to Chapel's mouth-birth line being followed by Chapel going,".....me?"

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Wheeee posted:

have pike do the fortnite dance after blowing up the enemy ship so i can relate more to the show

Chekov: Ahhh yes, Fortnite. Very popular 21st Century game. Invented by Russian.
Spock, Kirk and McCoy: :mmmhmm:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

DaveKap posted:

I was wondering why there were 3 new pages since I last read this thread and none of it was hating on the latest episode of a Star Trek show. We've really come a long way.

Y'know, something that occurred to me as I was watching this episode but forgot to mention in previous posts: This felt like a season finale. Did anyone else notice that or was it just me? Not that it really wrapped anything up but just... the absolute beating the ship took and the level of drama and action... it all felt very finale-ish to me. It makes me wonder what the actual season finale's gonna be like.

I wonder if the ship is still gonna be hosed up or still being repaired next episode. Either way I feel much more optimistic about this series, but I remember how Voyager largely discarded that idea of the ship getting continuously worn down very quickly, while Enterprise tried to make it a thing but it never really felt like they were pulling it off.

Gotta admit, the last three episodes of SNW have been so good after I was let down by the first episode, and this latest episode SO good that I'm kinda jonesing for more Star Trek and thinking about tracking down and catching up on Discovery after all. I forgot how Trek used to be so effective at getting its hooks into me, it's been so long since I saw a genuinely quality Trek series (DS9).

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

darkgray posted:

Did I miss something, or has SNW's Kirk just vanished since his outing in ep 2? Still recovering?

Based on that mustache, he's refusing to come out of his quarters until they install carpet on the bridge like he was promised: shag carpet.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Wee Bairns posted:

Hell yeah, pump that soundtrack at the beginning of the epidode directly into my veins. You know the one. Stupidly fun callback that wasn't really out of place, all things considered.
Another strong episode, though probably the weakest of what we've seen imo.

I really enjoyed that, it was nice and goofy without going completely overboard, and Spock and T'Pring by their very nature playing the ludicrousness of the situation so straight and restrained was the perfect touch. I think my favorite little touch was when T'Pring got a little frazzled and called Pike Chris instead of Captain, while Spock's every use of "......chris...." seemed so pained :allears:
I enjoyed #1 and Singh's b-plot, and the music at the start of the episode was :discourse:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

dr_rat posted:

2# alien space god loving with them

I know this got done to death with Q, but goddamn there was nothing I quite enjoyed as much as TOS episodes when they ran into super-powered Godlike beings who either turned out to be space conmen or McCoy and Spock figured out a way for Kirk to find a weakpoint on them. :hellyeah:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Big Mean Jerk posted:

An ensign ended up with a tongue made of gum after a horrific transporter accident.

“What we got back didn’t last long… hubba-bubba.”

People have to stop to spit their gum into a trashcan before they get into the transporter, but one day a curious child snuck his gum in after his dad told him the story about how human brains can't comprehend how quickly gum loses its flavor. Once they reached the other side, his horrified father heard screams, and his son babbling,"IT'S QUICKER THAN YOU THINK, DAD! IT'S QUICKER THAN YOU THINK! :byodood:"

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The_Doctor posted:

Una and La’An used the medical transporter too! Maybe he puts her in a spare buffer now.

M’Benga sits down for storytime, activates the medical transporter and a wad of chewed up gum appears on the bed.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gnossiennes posted:

the short lil clip of m'benga doing some fishing was my favorite bit of a very very good episode. i was just stoked that he got to do some chill fishing, and i would have gladly watched five minutes of a plotless sequence of him just hanging out and casting and enjoying the view 😎 good for you, buddy

:agreed:

Everybody was on shore leave, they're supposed to be resting 'n' recreationing, and that's just what the man was doing :hellyeah:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

some kinda jackal posted:

Do I have to be a wet blanket and point out this is not how bingo works? :colbert:

Love your hairdo, #1

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I'm enjoying Strange New Worlds so much that despite multiple ringing alarm bells, guys in high vis jackets making wild waving hand gestures and screaming no in my face, and strafing gun fire from concerned bystanders, I started watching Discovery after giving up on it a few episodes into the first season. I would just like to say, ahem...... I would just like to put forward..... well, let's be frank: lol and lmao Klingon tiddies :laugh:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

It's a good looking show with a charismatic, entertaining cast who all largely get stuff to do, telling standard TOS stories well but with modern sensibilities. It isn't breaking any molds but it's also largely exactly the feeling I've been looking for from a new Trek series for a long rear end time, and that goes a hell of a long way. I was largely unimpressed by the first episode but every episode since then has just been a really easy watch and I find myself looking forward to what kind of different hijinks (:raise:) the crew get up to each week.

DS9 changed up the basic formula of Trek in a really interesting way, but ever since then I've felt like the shows that followed have tried to either play it safe with formulaic drek (Voyager) or try to examine THE DARK AND SEXY SECRETS BENEATH THE FEDERATION'S SQUEAKY-CLEAN SURFACE in mostly uninspired ways. SNW at this point feels like "what if TOS but made in 2022?" and it seems to be working so far!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I'm into season 2 of Discovery and while it's not very good I'd also say it's not bad either. Maybe that's just because Anson Mount is there now and the charm factor increased considerably as a result.

Anyway I'm off to hospital now because Section 31 showed up and I rolled my eyes so hard they ended up facing backwards into my brain. It's a loving mess in there.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Pyroi posted:

sorry what

Next time: Pike finds the muppet planet, where a Federation starship crashed a thousand years ago after being hit with a tachyon particle wave. Kermit the Frog guest stars.

Anson Mount as the unwitting love rival for Miss Piggy's affections :hellyeah:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

nine-gear crow posted:

M'Benga and Chapel have to race to discover a cure before the entire crew is turned into puppets.

...why? :colbert:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Atlas Hugged posted:

Imagine how good Picard Season 2 would have been if it had just been Star Trek Sliders/Quantum Leap with them hopping from one bizarre alternative timeline to the next trying to find the key to bringing them all home and stopping the Borg Queen.

Scott Bakula guest-stars in an episode but everybody calls him Jean-Luc because only we can see he is Scott Bakula :hmmyes:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Charity Porno posted:

Also that code was the weakest poo poo ever and somehow genetic superman Khan didn't get it

2 dimensional thinking in space combat, lack of 4 dimensional thinking in considering time. :hmmyes:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

gschmidl posted:

He was just Elon Musk op

Speaking of which, it's loving hilarious watching Discovery and hearing Lorca tell Stamets that he should aim to be more like Elon Musk rather than "a selfish little man who put the survival of his own ego before the lives of others" :lol:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

HD DAD posted:

IIRC the line was ad-libbed by Jason Isaacs in hopes he’d get a Tesla out of it. Lmao

loving hell :xd:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Yeah, wasn't a big fan of that one. Oh well, I'm sure the next one will be better.

Was kind of irritated that Pike's reaction to "Can you truly say no child in the Federation lives in poverty?" wasn't,".....what's a poverty? :confused:" since isn't the whole point of the Federation that it's a post-scarcity thing? That or at least "You're torturing a child you psycho, holy poo poo."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I had never heard of Anson Mount before this show and he's loving amazing.


As is this!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Probably Magic posted:

He was Black Bolt in the bad Inhumans show, so the fact that his career got a second life with this is really inspiring.

Well I mean, if a bad tv show gets made but literally not one single human being on the planet watched it.... does it really count?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

nine-gear crow posted:

Section 31 show

Stop trying to make Section 31 a thing, Star Trek, there is literally not one single person on the planet who wants to see that bullshit.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Hurry up and give me Captain Pike and the crew meeting a Space God and taking it down a peg or two! :argh:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Every Star Trek should feature at least one episode where a Vulcan assigned to deal with Starfleet officers is seen doing this:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oh Enterprise, I really wanted you to be good :sigh:

I never watched beyond the end of season 2, I heard it got better in season 4(?) which was also the last, but I could never work up the enthusiasm to pick it back up.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Hellblazer187 posted:

I would put Enterprise above Voyager.

I mean, this kind of goes without saying. Voyager was garbage.

Wheeee posted:

two agents of the Federation Bureau of Investigation solving weekly space crimes and mysteries until they stumble onto what appears to be a dark Starfleet conspiracy

I love that Trials and Tribblelations opens with two Temporal Investigation Agents basically going,"Oh for gently caress's sake, Kirk AGAIN!?! :cripes:"

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Pike had powerful Dad energy going on in this episode and I loved it. The reveal towards the end of the episode that the mutiny was STILL going on and they'd just barricaded themselves into the bridge and put on an act of being in full control of the ship :allears:

Some of the twists were extremely obvious but eh, it's fine, the show is charming as hell and it's not like they were BAD twists, just obvious ones.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Holy poo poo, is it happening, are we getting a Space God loving with the crew and eventually getting taken down a peg or two!?! :yeshaha:

A.o.D. posted:

This is EXACTLY the kind of bullshit the Squire of Gothos would pull.

Yes! YES! :bisonyes:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Eej posted:

I think Angel veered to hard into camp for the back half of the episode and I got tone whiplash but judging from everyone's glowing reviews of this episode I might be alone in feeling this.

Once the "twist" got revealed I thought their performance was rather overplayed too, though I will say having seen their crew it wasn't all that surprising that they figure they wouldn't grasp subtlety very well. I do think it's hilarious though that even while playing the role of the high-minded humanitarian they couldn't resist popping into an all-black catsuit like they were a villain in 1960s Batman :allears:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The capitalization on "FOOLISHLY welcoming me on board" :discourse:

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

I still feel like they wanted to cast Cara Gee (Drummer from Expanse) for La’an.

I enjoy the actress they got but I can’t stop thinking of her as dime-store Drummer 😅

I'm glad I'm not the only one! I like her and I feel bad that I keep thinking of Drummer whenever I see her. :allears:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Finally, a policy that can unite America :hai:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Incredible episode, at one point they do a reaction shot for the little dog :3:

"I will send you to...... THE EVENT HORIZON! :eng101:"

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Don't think of it so much as a horror episode, it's just that in the fine tradition of Nazi Planet and Cowboy Planet and Native American Planet, the crew of the Enterprise have discovered Zombie Planet.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Jet Jaguar posted:

Let's not forget Roman Planet and Gangster Planet!

(I love Gangster Planet)

I love that Roman Planet ends with the entire crew (including Spock!) thinking fondly about how Jesus Christ is real and Christianity is the one true religion!

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