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Strategic Tea posted:Friendly reminder that the Chinese Communist Party is not an ethnicity or a country. I'd say that like Chernobyl incident was caused and then made worse more or less by the Soviet Union internal policies, Corona is running more or less on the same script for the CCP. Except that this time it isn't literally a pit of hell spewing death all around the northern hemisphere.
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Noblesse Obliged posted:I wonder how long a law comes that includes healthcare workers with police and the army as people who cannot refuse their work based on safety We (not USA btw) already have that but it requires the government to declare "heightened preparedness measurements", which is PC talk for "we decide which civil rights still exist from now on".
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schmug posted:There may come a time when buying fresh fruit and vegetables every couple days may not be a very good idea. That time is now, genius. OK Boomer. I am going to get my cruelty free avocado toast with an agave smoothie even if it kills the person who was forced to go to work in the store after I complained their regional office that the company is problematic against hipsters for closing their store due to the rona. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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Alan Smithee posted:When Florida gets shelled the response from America will be uproarious laughter There is a significant non-zero chance that Florida, for whatever reason, decides or ends up bombing itself.
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Lodin posted:I was talking to my uncle the other day and he's been getting into watching Counter Strike matches on the local sports station. Dude is old as hell and has never cared about video games. If you need some sports to drink beer with and e-sports is the only game in town, then e-sports it is.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Can antibodies be synthesized? I know they've shown some promising results in NY but are limited by donor supply and apheresis machines. Maybe, but it in high-concentration places like NY it would be futile since there are increasing amount of naturally available antibodies. And in the rest of the places the antibodies are the last line of defense because they can carry a wealth of other problems with them.
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Its getting stupid living in the timeline where the President of the United States tells you to A) inject chlorite intravenously and B) treat yourself to a powered UV lightbulb enema. I though that this would end with ear light-craze a couple of years ago.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:12
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GolfHole posted:russia just had their spring holidays last week At least to Finland they didn't, thank god. Our government is getting into the "we need to reopen now"-cult, but at least the 50+ events and leisure travel is still forbidden, although the land border between Sweden and Finland is leaking because of other reasons. Even if our government seems to be doing very effective and well-thought actions to contain the virus, the next thing they will do is a massive blunder or absolutely dim-witted move. Like reopening the elementary and secondary schools for four weeks, after successfully being in "fully online and home schooled" mode for almost two months.
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May 12, 2020 19:35
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I'd venture a guess that this is just a tactic to get the media attention away from the COVID-19 for at least a couple of days or weeks, since the 100k official deaths in US is approaching fast.
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Earwicker posted:im sure there are plenty of other ceos who will have no gripes about just stealing the idea and doing it themselves Doing it themselves, patenting it with underhanded and pseudo-illegal political tactics, *and* shutting down the Colombian developer team to put the price tag to 50k USD per carton bedcoffin.
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May 15, 2020 19:05
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coronavirus posted:I dont get the meme of "dummy idiot wearing a mask in their car". Is it not obvious why they leave it on? If you are running multiple errands or have to stop at pharmacy then grocery then post officer or whatever. You don't keep taking your mask on and off every time you get back to your car, making much more chances of infection. You leave it on the entire time you are out and about. This is correct; the idea is that you put the mask on at home or other "clean place" and do not touch or gently caress around with it until you are again at home, or other "clean place". This includes the part where you drive the car to the parking lot of the store, if you need to fetch your car from a public place such as a communal garage or roadside not immediately in front of your house. If you take off the mask inside your car, you should have another clean mask to put on the next time you leave the car because you hosed around with the face-covering part and exposed the face-facing underside to the unclean environment. This at least with the real masks, the cloth ones are just glorified sneeze guards.
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boar guy posted:
Yes, and if you brought your purchases inside the car then there also. Also if your AC filter is leaking or you keep your windows down that also makes it "not clean". With "real PPE" the problem is the exposed inside of the mask; in any setting where these things are tracked (ABC contamination sites such as hospitals, chem labs or nuclear power plants) your mask would dive right into waste or decontamination bin just because you took it off somewhere "not specifically cleaned". With cloth masks it really does not matter since that is just a sneeze guard to minimize your impact.
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There Bias Two posted:One should also factor in the possible heat within the car. It's been shown that CoV2 sterilization is possible at temperatures that the interior of a car will easily reach on a sunny day. It's not reliable, but it may have some effect. Heat, drying out and UV will easily* do it in a sunny day on a car dashboard on timespan of several hours, yes. Not while driving from home to Walmart to post office to McDonalds to home, especially if you are blasting AC which had the HEPA filter changed last time during the Obama administration. EDIT: *most likely Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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boar guy posted:i mean the car is parked with the windshield pointing in to the street in front of a garage door that gets too hot to touch for 6-8 hours a day due to direct sunlight. it's gonna have some effect, even if it's not a purpose built thing I edited my message but yeah, the dashboard UV and heat bombardment will probably be enough to dry it out for the first use next time tommorrow, but when you remove it, especially if you run an AC or bring anything from the store inside the car, you lose all purpose of that mask besides using it to protect others after the first place you visit. I have a rotating stock of generic work gloves which I put on when I leave my house, and the next time I take them off is when I am back home, have unloaded my purchases, and can drop them into the laundry bin and wash my hands properly. Now that the weather got hot I switched to using one-time restaurant kitchen-graded plastic gloves which go to the trash bin.
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Jun 12, 2020 19:34
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veni veni veni posted:Kind of like how stores have someone that does nothing but wipe down every cart and basket, then you just go in and touch all sorts of stuff that hasn't been wiped down anyways lol. You do understand that you are supposed to go there with gloves on? You put on the disposable gloves when you exit your car, use them while inside, load your stuff to the car and after returning your carriage, throw away your gloves? When at home, put on another set of gloves, put the groceries in place, or into your "wait area", and wash your hands.
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21st Cherry boy posted:My Swedish friend tells me his country is very angry they are not getting tourists right now. He also says it's only him and one other (older, existing conditions) lady wearing masks at his office which insisted they must come back in person even though working from home was going fine. Swedes in general are right now salty that other Nordic countries opened their passport-control free borders to each other but everyone told Swedes to stay the gently caress home and sort their COVID-19 poo poo out.
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Jun 27, 2020 19:47
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Our national organization handled everything rather well regarding the outcome, except for the war preparedness vaults having stocks mostly full of out-of-date masks. But then the national agency for health and well-being decided to have a very public and stupid political slapfight in media about the usefulness of the mask in public. One side is saying that "people should be encouraged to wear at least a cloth mask every time they go to public places", and the other side for some reason decided to go all in on "do not use any mask unless specifically told to do so, cloth masks do nothing the prevent catching the virus". These are not even mutually exclusive strategies, but even today there is no clear indication whether the agency want's us, or absolutely does not want, anyone to wear mask anywhere. All the other organizations such as regional hospital systems do recommend them, like anyone sane would do. So for some reason there are people in our national health agency in public, and still employed, saying that "because we have no prove that this works here we recommend against doing something that works everywhere else. I also cannot understand the difference between masks preventing getting the virus and using cloth masks to prevent spreading the virus, and I do not care to listen because I am the government official in these things". In any case, nice crisis communications, where the public instructions differ based on who -FROM THE ONE AND THE SAME AGENCY- gave a statement.
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My other home state/region is starting direct flights from Italy next week, and this time they will not be Russian passengers because the Russian border is closed indefinately for civilians. This will surely go well in a country that has its new cases in low twos, most days in ones, and not here, or any other Eastern regions.
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Lodin posted:Sweden is begging Finland and Norway to open the borders and that's not loving happening. They are also really salty about this issue and have beem saying that "they need to re-evaluate the level of trust and cooperation between Nordic countries because of this". Maybe re-evaluate your approach to dealing with your lung plague pandemic before calling your neighbors assholes for locking you out?
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Antigravitas posted:The nordics are used to operating under the honour system. Under normal conditions those borders are completely unguarded. Some areas have camera surveillance, and border patrols, but their main job is usually to ensure that people wondering around there in the wilderness are not lost, and know what they are doing. You can also take a boat across the Baltic sea between Sweden and Finland at your own leisure; on non-stormy conditions you only need something that preferably has a cabin but some crazy people are also known to row from Turku to Åland islands to Stockholm. So yeah, honour system.
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Nice Van My Man posted:It still seems low to me. The US, even at its relative low point, was getting ~20,000 new cases/day, and that was back in May. From that I was expecting the ~2000 deaths/day based on the ~9% US death rate. Instead it looks like they've got that down to ~200 deaths/day, which would be a ~1% death rate for confirmed cases during the slow period. That seems insanely good from all the stats I've seen. In the next month I'd be expecting ~4000 deaths/day based on the current infection rate, but I'm just not sure what the numbers mean anymore. They can also redefine the requirements for classifying something as COVID-19 death, and I suspect this done in many places. Following news items, at least Florida and Georgia have done some changes to the ways the deaths are reported internally to further spin away the problems. For example, it makes a huge difference if you start to require that the positive corona test has to be pre-mortem, or the patient needs to be hospitalized for corona infection and that only, or whether you define something as covid-death if the patient died to something else like heart attack, but the corona infection put them over the edge. Belgium is a good calibration mark for absolute upper level; they put absolutely everything suspected to "something and COVID-19" and they had 62k clinically confirmed cases, and about 10k dead, now that their curve has flattened to ~100 new cases per day. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Yes, some socialism policies are a very good idea, but old timey communism so far always fucks it up Beyond places that have stupidly inflated real estate prices, if you move around every 6-8 years when changing employer or apartment it is completely possible that you own the apartment, or most of it, at the time you are moving out. Renting the old place out when moving with your new job to new bough apartment somewhere else is completely normal middle class thing to do in most parts of the non-metropolitan area Europe. You'll sell the place when you A) move from your series of hovels into a nicer place to start a family or B) want to cash out for retirement. Or C) your combined family income is enough that you can actually buy the suicide studio in which you need to stay a couple of nights per week at the different city for work, or your children moves into one of the larger cities and needs an apartment that isn't shared-room student housing with a piss-reeking elevator and staircase in the bad part of the town. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Mithaldu posted:I live in Europe. Northern Europe, Nordics to be more specific, and live anywhere outside capital regions, or other large metropolitan areas such as Malmö or Tampere, and it is actually cheaper to buy than rent stuff, if your salary and other income is enough to get a deal with the bank. 10 year loan and you'll probably pay something similar on the loan payments + HOA fees than with the regular rent, with the added benefit that you can rent out your place when you move out. If you own more than half of the place it is much better idea to just leave it as a rental, than start selling it, and sell it when you actually need the money. Because even then you can A) extend the loan to 20 years, or B) just sell the place. Real estate isn't expensive, if you live somewhere else than the "most expensive hotspots of the country". The county next to where I now live actually gives you a free seaside building plots provided that you build a large enough McMansion on it, this current town selling newly renovated apartment buildings (which used to be in the piss-reek region) starting from something like 45k EUR. And both of them are within 60 minute commute from the central Helsinki. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Mithaldu posted:Now i wonder if germany is just very special to be healthy in this, or if it's because the north is very sparsely populated. Both. Germany is a smaller country with ten+ times the population so obviously the real estate business there is a completely different beast. EDIT: and the "if you own more than half" is also a key word here; if the bank owns in loan or mortages less than half of the property value, they at best can enforce sale of the property since they are a minority partner, not foreclose it. And as a sole actor, they cannot accept anything below the agreed property value as a winning bid. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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JoshGuitar posted:I don't own any rental property, but I have to wonder. There are lots of people out there who move frequently for any one of a number of reasons. Maybe to find better job opportunities, maybe simply because they don't want to live in the same place their entire lives, maybe for one of a multitude of reasons I can only guess at. Sometimes this is out of necessity, sometimes this is purely by choice. Most of these people rent because it makes more sense to do so in their situation. People who cannot get rentals for a short-term gig like building contracts, or are specialists who travel between towns and work as industry/assembly line specialists or contractors usually live on winterproofed RVs. Privately, or as a contractor living in a hotel (or even hostel) is stupidly expensive in the Nordic countries unless you are a huge company who can rent out a fleet of rooms on discount prices. Military and law enforcement people who have to change their posts at regular intervals and do not get that great pay tend to do the option 1 but only if they have family. Otherwise they have rooms or houses available at request by the base/county/etc. but they usually also are absolute bachelor poo poo holes.
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Yeah, I know that living in the US is a loving miserable thing unless you are born into wealth or are a San Fran IT billionaire.
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You get the exact results you measure for. Similarly, if you stop testing all but the most obvious cases and disallow postmortem diagnosis you'll see that Covid-19 is actually no longer an issue!
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Captain Beans posted:lets give trump credit for it, THE GREATEST DEPRESSION THE BESTEST DEPRESSION
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Computer Serf posted:Death stats end up in databases with local counties so I would imagine at least one of the 3400 should have statistics on this years causes and volumes of deaths to compare to historic averages? Yes, I completely agree with this and this applies to all countries. The only real measurements to assess the true impact of C19 which does not include the fuddled paperwork, purposeful missclassification and all of the other shenanigans will be in the amount of existing tax-payers and citizens, maybe starting in the year 2022. Expecting that the tax office and such are not required to massage the numbers to fit the political agenda.
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I can tell you that large number of Finnish people hate the idea of "test-stage vaccinations" simply because we took the Pandemrix as a part of the national vaccination program for the swine flu, and the amount of Narcolepsy cases ten-folded, especially with the children between 9-18. OK so the vaccination itself was bulletproof and did its job, but ruined the live for hundreds of young people messing with their brains. And yet, we are one of the countries that still would accept early vaccination. EDIT: One of my friend's wife got it while in university and under the university student health care system. She basically sleeps or is awake only because she has a horse-level upper and downer diet, for the rest of her life. Obviously the government health security system pays for this poo poo and she is on permanent disability, but that took years to get resolved since she was 19 when she took it. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Haramstufe Rot posted:if everyone owns their home who y'all rentin to tho? Students, foreigners, short termers, people who just got divorced, people who for some reason cannot or will not buy own... etc Its not a *as* lucrative business here, as it seems to be in other parts of the world.
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zer0spunk posted:russia says they'll have one by august 10th Yeah, I would not take anything from anyone with this level of work.
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Der Shovel posted:But hey, good news, our government is preparing to consider the possibility of inspecting reintroducing recommendations to think about masks and travel. THL really needs to throw out all the side-hussle businessmen and political nominations from its "panel of experts". They are actively making things worse with their non-decisions and maybe-recommendations trying to cater to both the private medicare businesses and people's safety. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Aug 11, 2020 |
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Mithaldu posted:Imagine being a country where the virus is taken seriously when it gets out of control. As it seems it only guarantees that the sitting cabinet takes a victory lap, starts arguing on what major reform will be driven in to capitalize on the popular support, and completely mess up the response and/or prevention of the second wave.
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Der Shovel posted:Our government (Finland) continues to be a bunch of spineless wimps. They have now given a "recommendation" to wear a mask in public spaces throughout the country. It's not mandatory, they just think you should do so. Well, at least they managed to say the parts "you should wear a mask in public transportation" and "you should wear a mask when you cannot be certain that you can keep the 2m distance". This was actually more than what I was expecting from them.
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FoolyCharged posted:God knows just having people say this isn't a given right now but I see this everywhere and it drives me batty. Let me rephrase it with different preventive measures: Lets put it this way: it allows schools and universities to enforce mask rules because you cannot be certain that people are, in fact, always at least 2m from you in the classrooms and laboratories.
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Evil triumphs, because they have successfully sold the idea that Good is nice.
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Yeah, having 30-35% of the general population now having heart and/or lung problems AND corona mutating just enough to keep on making rounds around the globe is the problem.
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Scaramouche posted:I think the point might be that young college athletes are unusually healthy compared to the average and even that didn't help them. The current research data shows that COVID-19 actually makes new venues of attack for the next waves, so being unusually healthy is nice against the first, second and the third wave, but not the ones after.
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So... Our tabloid newspapers are reporting that US put the "kill all with nuclear fire" Boeing E-6B Mercury planes up into air in case the president kicks it. So we now actually have a "we are all gonna die" but in a hastened schedule?
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