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SteelMentor posted:https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1249263329505210368?s=20 an invertebrate has more of a spine than this man
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Apr 12, 2020 12:32
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It's okay to give up on the labour party
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Apr 12, 2020 20:56
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OwlFancier posted:You're never going to get anywhere if you just give up all the time. Labour's dead man, not amount of shocking it's corpse with high voltage electricity is going to make it come back to life even as it spasms and writhes
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Apr 12, 2020 21:01
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OwlFancier posted:It's not dead you melt it's still full of decent members, it's the people at the top who are shits and it's important the members learn that, if your response to the exposure of entrenched power by abhorrent means is to go "welp that sucks better not do anything about it" you might as well shoot yourself in the head cos you're giving them free license to do it for you. Excuse me?
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Apr 12, 2020 21:05
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OwlFancier posted:Literally all you ever post is suggestions about "giving up" on every single thing. Maybe because barring a bunch of us trying to loving overthrow the government, nothing is going to change? You want change from neo-liberalism and the rot that has infected the labour party? You think playing in a system that they've designed to gently caress the left over is ever going to get anything other than piecemeal, incremental changes? It isn't good enough to vote anymore, you know that even if you don't want to acknowledge it openly, how many times do these people need to burn you before you realise they aren't allies but actively hindering your efforts?
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Apr 12, 2020 21:09
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OwlFancier posted:Of course voting alone isn't going to be enough, but that doesn't mean "let's just stop participating in politics" which is literally all you ever suggest. Just give up on everything, every time something doesn't go you way, it's just give up on this, give up on that, stop engaging with everything that isn't going my way right now. The change which you need to get the concessions you desire is going to require people literally giving up their lives OwlFancier posted:Some of us don't have the luxury of surrendering, I can't afford to live my life just "giving up" all the time, because I don't have anything left to give up. If politics is life or death for people what the hell else do you characterise giving up as? and i do have that luxury? What do you know of my life?
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Apr 12, 2020 21:17
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OwlFancier posted:As opposed to what, them being taken anyway and for absolutely no gain? If you believe the right to be hostile to your very existence why is giving up going to make them spare you? They'll starve you or freeze you to death without a thought. You can't abscond from the consequences of politics by pretending it doesn't exist. I cannot, in good faith, look at the labour party and believe it's ever going to be a vehicle for leftish politics. OwlFancier posted:I have no loving idea about your life but what I am telling you is that the notion of giving up on participation makes no sense otherwise. That's literally only available to people who have no actual need of political support. If you're not in that group which I would assume you're not, then the position you're advocating makes no sense. It's going to take working-class people rioting and revolting against the government levels of action and death before anything seriously changes that will ever change the joke of a system we have in britain
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Apr 12, 2020 21:22
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Josef bugman posted:I think its more the fact that you seem to come across differently from how you imagine it. I have no doubt that this is simply you being factual and urgently informing people of things. In practise however, you give the impression of someone to whom emotion is so foreign that misery is the only one you can identify and so just keep hammering at it. Being clinically depressed and autistic does tend to cloud your opinions, judgement and emotions, yes. But you don't know me Josef, perhaps we should keep it that way.
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Apr 12, 2020 21:39
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Josef bugman posted:Indeed, I at least half of that, the depression section, too. But the point is to go "okay, is this useful" not to encourage others into this. Would you inflict how we feel on others, in order to have comrades in misery? What would you have me do?
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Apr 12, 2020 21:53
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Josef bugman posted:Argue, as opposed to declaim. But be kinder to yourself mate. We can and should help others to bear their burdens. If you personally want to leave Labour then go for it. But use the time and money on other socialist causes. I don't know any because I am bad at research atm, but there are always things to look up, always people to help. I understand what you are saying
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Apr 12, 2020 22:06
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Sorry for my negative comments itt, it's been a rough year both politically and personally; to find out that the labour "elite" literally, not figuratively, sabotaged their own leader because of ideological reasons is really depressing and makes me wonder if we could have avoided the debacle that we're in now wrt Corona and it's handling by the tories Trying to stay positive is difficult at the best of times, even more so when things go bad. Not an excuse, it doesn't excuse my behaviour, just an attempt at explaining my thought process and reaction
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Apr 13, 2020 08:23
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Hearing that the four main suppliers of PPE in the UK have been restricting supplies to both Wales and Scotland, prioritising the NHS England and English Care homes, if that's true... yikes. https://twitter.com/gturner1969/status/1249674093076586496 Ash Crimson fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 18:16
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Look at the fookin' state o' it
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Apr 13, 2020 20:52
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Apr 16, 2020 13:51
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Darth Walrus posted:Buzzfeed has the goods on Number Ten's gradually emerging plans for its coronavirus exit strategy In a very interesting long read, which sits intriguingly with this section from the Daily Telegraph: This poo poo is scary; what's going to happen when people have had enough of being told to stay at home? I'm lucky enough to live in a rural area, but even here people are flouting the rules.
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Apr 18, 2020 14:33
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It's not really a choice if the alternative is to starve and suffer
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Apr 18, 2020 14:38
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sassassin posted:Ever since the dictionary changed the definition of 'literally' people have decided that they can say (literally) anything and even if it's blatantly and objectively false they're still right, they were just exaggerating for effect and we should naturally intuit that they were saying something very smart. To correct someone is an attack (see Trump). Get help
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Apr 18, 2020 17:23
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winegums posted:Deleted now for some reason.. What was it?
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Apr 18, 2020 20:11
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I hope there are riots or at least protests against this government, they have blood on their hands but at this point I'm not sure anything will ever happen
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Apr 19, 2020 08:34
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There's going to come a point where this is all over and i beg people to turn their pent up frustration against this tory government, why did they allow cheltenham? Why didn't they institute a lockdown earlier? Preventing the virus from coming over here was impossible sure, but if they instituted lockdown earlier we might have bought ourselves more time to prepare, but they put money over the lives of people
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Apr 19, 2020 09:48
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OwlFancier posted:Does george galloway have a coherent political position or is he just mad and starved for attention? What do you think?
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Apr 21, 2020 13:57
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Bobstar posted:Thanks to whoever posted the (to me) utterly novel idea of ordering spices online. Found a spice shop, spent €40, got a whole lot of spices at low low prices (compared to the supermarket jars anyway) you dont want to dabble in that synthetic poo poo, stick to the real stuff
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Apr 21, 2020 21:31
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Borrovan posted:Gunman on a balcony in Chatham, appears to be shooting at police self isolation doing real damage
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Apr 22, 2020 10:39
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It's looking increasingly likely that 2020 as a year is a write off
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Apr 22, 2020 12:19
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Ratjaculation posted:Oh this discussion is still being dragged on? i guess we could talk about england
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Apr 26, 2020 19:36
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I fear as soon as this poo poo ends, we are going to plunge straight back into even worse austerity
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Apr 27, 2020 08:21
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Ms Adequate posted:Breaking t'law breaking t'law breaking t'law!
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Apr 27, 2020 20:57
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Whenever the tory ministers, mps go on tv you can see the glazed look in their eyes, nothing behind them, absolutely dead like a shark's eyes, no humanity
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Apr 28, 2020 11:48
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The only time things will change is when the working class rise up and forcibly remove this government and certainly not through voting, but that's not going to happen.
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Apr 28, 2020 18:01
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What's the likelihood of the lockdown ending early, like say in the next few weeks or a month or two?
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Soylent Yellow posted:I'm still satisfying my curiosity by spying on the work email accounts despite being on furlough, and a whole load of our suppliers are planning to open up on the 11th of May. I'm expecting most manufacturing and distribution businesses to follow suit. what about retail tho
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