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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

:siren:Do Not Post In This Thread::siren:

  • Pissflaps

I BEG YOUR PARDON???

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Maugrim posted:

He got perma'd remember

I didn't know that! I thought this was an April Fool's joke.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

feedmegin posted:

Read that as ronya for a sec

Like if the flying spaghetti monster got a 1st on their PPE degree?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

When is the Labour leadership announcement?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Saros posted:

What sort of lunatic puts money in their mouth even when there isnt a Pandemic on. :aaaaa:

OwlFancier posted:

It's gonna be real hard for me to get out of the habit of holding things with my gob.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/statu...045am-live-news

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Personally I'm going to wait and see what Starmer actually does, but I'm not optimistic. If he keeps the left policies I'll stick around even if talk and cabinet are very centrist.

Obviously there are some red lines like scapegoating minorities, benefit claimants, immigrants, trans people, etc.

I don't think he's incapable of winning an election (if only because this country is full of people who don't pay attention to politics at all). It'll depend on what he'll do if he wins, and he'll almost definitely be better than the tories. I won't work up a sweat for neoliberal policies, but I'll campaign for leftist ones even if they're being touted by a neoliberal shitter.

jabby posted:

If Corbyn didn't quit Labour through the Blair years I'm pretty sure we can hang on through Starmer.

Personally I'm reserving judgement. We need to remember he's only been an MP since 2015, and despite being an Oxford grad he wasn't exactly born with a silver spoon in his mouth. I doubt he's a proper socialist at heart but from he's at least positioning himself as further left than Blair, Brown or even Miliband.

Best case? He's the palatable face and personality the PLP need to make them get behind more left-wing policy offerings.

Worst case? He tries to take Labour back sharply to the right and the left is cast (again) into the political wilderness for decades. But we'll be back. Socialism or barbarism remains the only choice facing humanity in the long term and we need to be around to offer the 'socialism' bit.


Yeah agreed.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

stev posted:

Seriously did all of the Corbynites in the party actually vote for Keir? Have they just collectively given up?

A lot of people who weren't fully socialists but more along the dem-soc/soc-dem lines who were on board with Corbyn and his policies and saw through the antisemitism bullshit got massively traumatised by the 2019 election, at least in my CLP.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

ronya posted:

speaking of the 2019 election, electing the member for st pancras to replace the member for islington north does seem likely to double down on the loss of the red wall and confirm Labour as the new party of the cities and hopefully the bigger suburbs

all the more so if the party spends the next few years in the grip of constitutional struggle (which seems very likely tbqh)

I agree, I definitely see Starmer appealing to suburbs with sensible middle class people - you know, people who thought Cameron and Osborne weren't that bad. No idea how he'll fare up north but if my experience with the 2017 and 2019 elections are anything to go by it'll depend entirely on the media.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Not So Fast posted:

I find it funny how suddenly this thread is concerned about Starmers skeletons while ignoring Corbyn's for 5 years.

Mostly pointing out that he has some and the press will dig them up when it's convinient for them. He won't get a pass unless he goes full Blair in which case.. What's the point of him or the Labour party?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Gonzo McFee posted:

Boris currently being attended to by Dr Hugh Bris and nurse Ira Knee.

Nurse Sha Denfreuda got deported because of Brexit.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ataxerxes posted:

Do you folks know when the next episode of Podcasting is Praxis is coming out? It has been an absolute blast so far.

There's one recorded and it will probably be released soon. We're recording another at some point this week, maybe even tonight, so very soon! Glad to hear you've been enjoying it.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Pesky Splinter posted:

In all the excitement of another PM about to snuff it, nearly forgot what day this was;

:toot:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm not sure if it's the origin of it, but in England taking your hat off when you entered church was supposedly you showing that you weren't hiding from God, compared to the other Abrahammic religions (and indeed many Christian sects) that actually want you to wear a hat, presumably because God is sick of looking at bald spots.

Conversely, in the English courts, the judge would put a black cloth over the top of his head when sentencing someone to death so God couldn't see him passing the sentence (power over life and death of course being God's thing), which is a bit of theological sleight-of-hand that would have Rabbis howling.

I think the use outside of church is just a general, very visible, way of showing respect - see also hat tipping as a general hello/goodbye. I don't *think* it's a military thing because the military don't generally take their hats off to show respect - a salute or bow/nod/curtsy is more traditional, but I'm sure there's some tradition where the 9th Wessex Peculiars wear their hats on their knees on St. Swithins Day or something.

Yarmulkes are woren, afaik, in order to remind you that there's always somebody above you (god, not your boss). :jewish:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Hey Guava, thanks for posting Purge Your Inner Tory - it's a great fuckin' song.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Vitamin P posted:

Absolute bullshit, there were lots of people on this very forum that correctly noticed the name Change UK was funny as gently caress stop lying, and if 'reee' is a specific reference to autistic people then it's news to me I've only known it as animalistic frustration noise reference.

It is 100% a thing making fun of autistic people and had been for years and years pm the chan boards, so consider yourself better informed now.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Kin posted:

A couple of pages back, but could a bot be created that replies to an MPs tweet with a quote or screenshot of said tweet?

Or just posts the same tweet on its account or whatever? Just so there's a more permanent record?

I don't use twitter so haven't the foggiest on what the capabilities are.

https://www.politwoops.eu/

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ash Crimson posted:

Sorry for my negative comments itt, it's been a rough year both politically and personally; to find out that the labour "elite" literally, not figuratively, sabotaged their own leader because of ideological reasons is really depressing and makes me wonder if we could have avoided the debacle that we're in now wrt Corona and it's handling by the tories

Trying to stay positive is difficult at the best of times, even more so when things go bad. Not an excuse, it doesn't excuse my behaviour, just an attempt at explaining my thought process and reaction

I hope things improve for you soon, remember to take care of yourself where possible.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

ThomasPaine posted:

Every day I think centrists can't get more laughable and every day I'm proven wrong.

Do they actually hear themselves?

What did we say about weetposting?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

mehall posted:

Nestle are awful, but also don't begrudge the little pleasures people can find to make life bearable.


Not sure how I'd survive the grimdark future of Tory Britain if I wasn't allowed chocolate oranges.

If you enjoy chocolate oranges your taste is so hosed up that I'd assume you'd enjoy tory rule. Everyone who loves chocolate oranges is a tory there I said it.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Thomas Nagle is an actual good philosopher who wrote some interesting poo poo ("What is it like to be a bat?"), is that why people are getting confused?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Tesseraction posted:

That's Nagel not Nagle!! :argh:

gently caress's sake I confused myself as well. You're right, obviously. Anyway they're pronounced the same :colbert:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ney-gel (hard G like in Ground), yeah.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

So, looks like I need to find a new union - any recommendations for a grab-bag union for someone who loving despises the ones specific to their industry?

Not to defend GMB and their usual shittery (I'm looking at you, Nandy endorsement!), but that's just their Labour Staff Branch as far as I can tell and isn't from the union leadership at least.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Answers Me posted:

So I think I'm gonna cancel my membership of Labour, and possibly Unison, and put the money into joining the IWW instead. A good idea? Do they do much useful stuff? They seem pretty sound, but I'm quite new to Actually Doing Stuff beyond voting in whatever ballot papers that happen come through my door.

They have a corona fund going, but if they do anything is basically up to you and your chapter since everyone is a volunteer. They don't have paid staff iirc. I'm sure Borrovan could elaborate way more than me!

Also make sure you are still a member of whatever union is the biggest where you work so you're covered legally since unfortunately the iww doesn't have that many resources.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

I'm down for chipping in to buy the JC and make Miftan the Chief Editor.

I'd do it for a substantially reduced salary (from the old editor I don't know if you can legally reduce my salary atm lol)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Ms Adequate posted:

Eh he could have been raised by one of the thread necromancers.

That's not what Necrothatcher means!

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Lambert posted:

"Riots" seems a bit much, all those protests are very tiny. You'll find 20 people willing to protest against just about anything.

I realize all protests in the US are small by comparison, but even then, it's a very select handful of people.

If 20 people with assault rifles were on the steps of the mayor's office and they happened to all be black and protesting about something far less stupid, like the police not executing black people, I guarantee you it'd be a "riot"

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


The perfect Liberal take :discourse:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Isomermaid posted:

While we're talking about kitchen gadgets for some reason, may as well split the room: which kind of peeler do you use.

a) Y shaped, end on
b) I shaped, side on
c) A knife
d) Big

Y shaped or bust imo.


goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'VE NOT BEEN FURTHER FROM MY HOUSE THAN THE CAT FOOD SHOP IN THREE WEEKS THIS IS ALL I HAVE NOW.

You are Dan Hodges and I claim my £5.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

The only clapping I will do is my own god drat rear end cheeks and I don't know how to do that.

You gotta get dummy thicc.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

The Deleter posted:

Its the year 2035 and somehow through a freak series of coincidences UKMT have siezed power in the UK. Their attempts to pass a law that would require all people travelling to another country to be shot in the head are derailed because Miftan keeps sneaking an amendment banning chocolate oranges onto the bill.

Look mate I'm just trying to get this menace off the streets in any way I can.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


I love it, thank you.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

They're called kitchen baps in the North.

Oh so northerners are all sexist now???

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Bobstar posted:

Yeah that. Not like crazy long, but where we say "PEE-zuh", they say "PITZ-ah". So if you wrote pizzas, it would be pronounces "pitzass" instead of "pitzahs".

Dutch is weird.

It's the same in Hebrew but the pluralisation is done as Pitzot because pizzas are female. :jewish:

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