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Calaveron posted:Like how do you go on and have a goofy military parade where you teach some guys how to do your arm breaking spinny sword victor pose after fighting and ostensibly defeating the living manifestation of destiny Life goes on even after the big wins and that boat won't infiltrate itself.
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Aerith is really cool, yeah?
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Apr 12, 2020 00:19
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I just beat it, not super sure whats going on at the moment and I fought Darkside so but I'm pretty sure that was loving amazing and I don't know whats going to happen anymore and thats loving rad. I'm loving stoked! Were did the Avalanche dudes who were supposed to be attacking Shinra HQ go?
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Apr 14, 2020 07:02
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Thinking on it, the main branch of Avalanche is probably led by like... loving Bugenhagen or something isn't it? Also that Rufus fight was pretty loving cool even if he immediately folded after his dog ran off, Like I was expecting a drag out final phase and then his health bar just kinda melted to like one Counterstance, odd. I have no idea if Jessie and Wedge are okay or what is going on with Zack at the end there. Like loving Sora could have shown up in that ending and I wouldn't have blinked. You know actually it's been awhile why was Zack dragging Cloud to Midgar anyway? Seems like a bad place to hang out if your on Shinra's poo poo list. I should to bed, gently caress. Caidin fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Apr 14, 2020 07:10
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I really hope that wherever they're going with this they preserve the Palmer fight. Give the other board members a hands on brawl somewhere too, I wanna nail bat Heidegger's face. The slap fight could probably be made into a proper battle, and there's something a little off about that Reece fellow...
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Apr 14, 2020 14:11
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I thought Vincent was cool at first but young me was later conflicted because he didn't actually seem to be stuck in that coffin and the jars Hojo spent 4 years pickling Could and Zack in were like in the next room. Like break out of your gothic pity party for a hot second, dude. Other then that, would like to do the monster mash with him in the new engine. Caidin fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Apr 14, 2020 15:44
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I'm kind of hazy on how history started drifting so hard that the Dementors needed to be out in full force in the first place, like did Sephiroth arrange for Cloud and friends to be strong enough to decisively whoop the Turks or for the Avalanche trio to survive without time cop intervention? Did he make Barret decide Cloud wasn't worth bringing to Reactor 5 until he was short handed or jog Hojo's memory? Did he plant like half a mile of explosives on the highway outta town because that one was just kinda random?
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Apr 14, 2020 18:46
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Rabid Snake posted:Zack living is in a different universe right? The dog logo is different in the Zack lives universe. It wasn't just a flashback right? Zack now lives in the maintime line, instead of wandering into town by himself Cloud was carried in by Zack who left him on a bench and told the buster sword to watch him for a second while he dipped into a restroom for a leak. When he cameback out they were both gone and he has been everywhere in town Cloud hasn't been looking for him. Cloud is aware of this on some level and that's why he visualizes his apartment looks like a gas station bathroom and imagines those benches everywhere.
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Apr 15, 2020 00:26
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Nessus posted:I figured they were doing it I mean it did work actually, it's just the Meteor promptly reformed which on reflection seems silly but whatever, Barrets actual logic behind stealing the big balls is gently caress Shinra.
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Apr 15, 2020 00:45
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Clarste posted:It's magic. Yeah, I guess.
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Apr 15, 2020 01:03
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ymgve posted:Was it ever explained who it was that killed the guards when you go to steal the bomb materials? Doesn't seem like something Roche would do, and the Avalanche guys come there later so it couldn't have been them. A little late but the ones who took out the guards was Avalanche, a whole team of them storm the warehouse right after the Roche fight. I think Biggs even says as much. Barret's cell is considered violent extremists so they don't get a lot of communication from the main organization in things like so their presence is surprise.
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Apr 15, 2020 01:46
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ApplesandOranges posted:I'll admit, I'm not sure why they went to the trouble of saving Wedge in this incarnation, giving you a whole dungeon to save him, bring him back for the final showdown... and then (possibly) just kill him off again. The Wedge thing was mostly there I think to get you fired up for whipping time ghost rear end if you weren't fed up with their bullshit from the plate drop, as well as general stringing you along with will they or won't they. Edit: Doing my Hard mode poo poo and I kinda forgot about that dude at the start of chapter 3 who brushes Cloud off as a mako junkie. Like... is that poo poo also a drug? Does Barret go out at night looking for anybody huffing glowing teal fumes? Caidin fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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Apr 15, 2020 03:47
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I disliked Hojo's lab because really I wanted to go on a rip roaring rampage through the office space of Shinra HQ which was something I remember kinda happening in the original, and also because it was too long. Did get a laugh outta Hojo saying 5 guards outta do it after the party splattered his Deep One. Weird how those power armor grunts only seem to show up once though, they were kinda cool.
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Apr 15, 2020 06:36
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lezard_valeth posted:A thing that I really loved is how some of the new bosses were simply regular mooks in the original that mostly just showed up in one place, and yet you immediately identified them. FF7 had a lot of unique enemy designs, with the only palette swaps that come to mind being the Soldier 3rd/2nd/1st class and even then they had slight difference. I was honestly disappointed that SOLDIER 3rd class dudes showed up around the last trek up to plate and were total chumps, like small fry compared to a Helitrooper. Thought they'd save that crew for a Roche rematch with a better showing or something.
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Apr 15, 2020 07:07
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CottonWolf posted:Or Cloud just dies permenently and one of
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Apr 15, 2020 16:49
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I really appreciate that the writing team made a scenario where some kind of robotic Grim Reaper has been murdering children and feeding on their misery and even unto the point where it is vanquished and they pass onto to the hereafter my attitude the entire time is gently caress off all you little shits, I do not have time for this.
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Apr 16, 2020 05:42
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Bland posted:I was thinking about how the Shinra Building sequence was probably the one part of the remake that I'd say is handled worse than the original, and I was wondering if anyone can make any sense out of the sequence of events involving Sephiroth, because it seems absolutely all over the place compared to the (more or less) straightforward nature of what happens in the OG. Sephiroth has a fairly deranged fascination with Cloud now imported in from the rest of the franchise, so instead of killing Shinra and leaving a message he decides to see if he can have some fun with his old buddy by properly doing it right in front of him and hell let's impale Barter for shiggles. Possibly Sephiroth actually thinks this is communicating something meaningful to Cloud but he's speaking in full on Kingdom Hearts monologues at this point so all that can surmised is that the escalation of horny in Midgar is affecting him as well.
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Apr 16, 2020 13:50
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I specifically remember Zack and Aeris having several dates and there was this odd little sequence were you collected a bunch of different parts to make a flower cart for her and you could decide how it looked and I remember her looking at the one I made and just kind of going "Hmmm" in an uninterested way. And that's why Zack hooked up with Cloud. Happy Noodle Boy posted:I mean brands change their logo constantly the different Stamp could just be an indication of the time period as in this change of fate affected the past as well. I mean correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Cloud had only been in town for maybe a few weeks before he found Tifa and she hooked him up with Barrets cell to try and keep him around? Caidin fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 16, 2020 |
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Apr 16, 2020 16:41
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Vino posted:It has to be another timeline because if Zack survives the Cloud doesn't take the Buster Sword and the events of FF7/Remake don't happen. I mean not really, Cloud just needs to have the Buster Sword and for Zack to be absent so his broken mental state can start cribbing off Zacks character sheet. It could be as complicated as alternate or merging timelines or as simple as Zack getting mugged by dementors and spending the first part stuck in a final destination film until the crew deals with the Destiny situation.
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Apr 16, 2020 17:06
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"Sephiroth decends in slow motion, Masamune poised to a kneeling Areiths back as the party is frozen in horror. Then it just glances off and Sephiroth falls over into a one winged heap as Aerith opens her jacket to reveal katana proof vest."
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Apr 16, 2020 17:38
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I want a part 2 where Barret gets to save Dyne.
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Apr 16, 2020 18:26
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DeathChicken posted:Well, Tseng might or might not have kicked out of the Stone Cold Masamune, but that whole scene in the original was very confusing Tseng is a fairly spooky looking dude whose app apparently looked exactly the same for like the last 10 or 15 years so he's probably a ghost anyway.
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Apr 16, 2020 20:51
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Harrow posted:You misunderstand. I didn't say that I have some sort of faith that these mysteries will be answered in a satisfactory or good way. It's just, they are mysteries that have been set up and seem to be major plot points this time. Will they fumble it? I dunno, maybe. Just like I have no idea why Sephiroth, Aerith, and Cloud seem to be able to know the future to varying degrees, I also don't know if the writers are going to pull this off. I'm just saying, this is clearly the path they're taking. I mean thinking on it Sephiroth one way or the other is essentially Jenova, an interplanetary parasite that infects a planet to the apparent end of devouring it's lifestream or something. Such a predator could reasonably have means of circumventing defense systems like the Whispers. If the original game could be considered the planets ultimately acceptable outcome then It's not impossible Sephiroth could have deciphered it's game plan as part of his extended stay in the lifestream and is now reacting accordingly. Aerith could having understanding of this future due to her status as an Cetra. Cloud is having flashes of it either due to his Hojo inflicted connection to Sephiroth intentionally or otherwise. Doesn't quite explain Zack but hey...
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Apr 16, 2020 21:48
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Flopsy posted:So just for the hell of putting it out there what exactly are y'all hoping for in the next game? Plot wise, character wise, etc. I want the mansion in Nibelheim to be essentially the Spencer Estate, which I mean it is but more so. Clouds dance skills were drilled into him in basic training so the Junon parade is a massive dance party and if you do well enough you get to do a number with Rufus. I want to hear more about AVALANCHE and Wutai and honestly more about the planets political landscape in general becuase it was kinda plain that Shinra had essentially bought/conquered the world already. Vincent should be rewritten slightly because I spent 20-30 years in a hole out of self pity is frankly a bit too much. I want Zack, maybe trailing the party and getting into his own weird poo poo along the way. I want the Palmer boss fight. I want the obnoxious Gold Saucer haunted hotel to be regularly returned to as a place the party discusses important heavy events as bedsheet ghosts compete with Cait Sith to kill the mood. Sephiroth needs to be louder angrier and have access to a time machine, and whenever he isn't around other characters should be asking "wheres Sephiroth?"
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HORSEPORN posted:The game is very clearly leaving aerith living or dying up in the air. What’s obvious is that something is going to have to replace this plot point. Either another character needs to die in her stead or something monumental has to happen that emotionally effects new players and players that already know the original plot. Take it all the way, have Sephiroth give Cloud so many green tinted headaches visions that he's succumbed and is actually cooperating with him by the time anyone finds him. Like show me what the gently caress Sephiroth actually wants out of that relationship, If they want to wuss out then later on your highest affection character (Barret) can snap Cloud out of it with the power of truer love.
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I'm actually really interested with what their going to do with Rufus going forward. Like in the OG he rolls in all ominous and gives a speech about abandoning his daddy's methods and ruling through fear but like... He doesn't. He is in fact substantially less evil then his dad if only because by the time he shows up Sephiroth is firmly the baddy and the game can't give him screen time to do poo poo destroy like an 8th of the worlds largest city in the world just to kill a 5 man terrorist cell and also their temp. Like I think the meanest he gets is trying to steal Cid's plane that one time and the attempted execution of Tifa and Barret but like, they were kinda dedicated to the destruction of his ...nation? and conducted terrorist actions to that effect. It's not particularly unreasonable. Beyond that he's just throwing everything against Sephiroth, the missile only fails because Meteor is slightly bullshit and the Sister Ray is actually integral to victory. Thats more effective action then the Planet itself has managed by that point. Now in the Remake Daddy Shinra was eviler then ever, dude did 3 9/11's in a 3 days. Rufus didn't even bother with a speech, he cut straight to channeling raw sexual energy and also Gun Kata at a random twink on the roof and toured his HQ wandering why nobody else has noticed it's phenomenally haunted. Now there's an uncertain future and maybe a war with Wutai rolling up, and supposedly a terrorist organization that is more then 5 people and their temp to contend with. His wet works division have noticed they are the baddies in a way that finally bothers them. A stupid puppy that is also a genuine rogue SOLDIER first class is wandering around looking for his deeply troubled best friend and Roche could be loving his motorcycle in the lobby at any moment. These are interesting days at Shinra, and I want to know more.
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DeathChicken posted:Y'know, it never made a ton of sense just *why* Cloud was so insistent on fighting Rufus one on one, at least in the original game. "Barret, go! This is the real battle for the planet!" Okay, so kill Rufus with your army of a terrorist, a local florist and a labratdog. At least here it was fairly clear that if Cloud didn't do it this way, the ghosts would quickly be there to go "Oh yes you are" What if they genuinely didn't want to fight? Would the ghosts smash them together like action figures for a minute and then throw Rufus into a helicopter, then maybe have to pilot it away themselves?
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Apr 17, 2020 03:42
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Pollyanna posted:Gahhhhhh I knew I shoulda finished his missions. I did all 20 of the battle intels and never found out he was a bot, I mean I wondered but.. How do you find that out?
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Apr 17, 2020 03:48
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I mean... You get back stabbed from the Buster Sword held sideways and I'm pretty sure your just bisected.
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Apr 17, 2020 13:03
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I still want FF9 but maybe not in photo realism, with a plot that doesn't ignore Freya after a bit into disc 2 and like... a reason for Amarant to exist basically.
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Apr 17, 2020 15:38
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Harrow posted:I keep saying: Bravely Default pop-up book environments, lovingly-rendered HD versions of the models in the original art style, keep most of the original script but with some good expansions (like for characters like Freya and Amarant), and I'm extremely sold. That's a game that could really shine with a sorta storybook illustration aesthetic in a remake. I dunno, the town's in 9 were really gorgeous in way that I don't think BD's style, while nice, really equals. Plus most of the BD dungeons are pretty dull visually.
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Apr 17, 2020 15:50
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DeathChicken posted:Me, I'm kind of entertained by the idea that it was only destiny holding Zack back from taking out 50 Shinra goons and a few missile launching helicopters. Of course he did. I mean something if I remember right he gets the helicopters too eventually, the fight ends with a completely exhausted Zack vs 3 grunts as he sluggishly bops them for 9999 to no avail, then his limit break slot machine croaks it just before it finishes rolling a life saving triple Aeris and he eats poo poo. Presumably the time ghosts were hacking the HP value for those guys.
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Apr 17, 2020 19:13
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Out of curiosity, am I the only around here who didn't even get really interested in the Remake until the grapevine leaked they were gonna get funky with it?
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Apr 17, 2020 22:48
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Mike the TV posted:Yeah if Holy is destroyed by saving Aerith, then the planet is 100% hosed. Sounds like the perfect time to employ a manned spaceflight mission into the heart of the Meteor and hit it's giant red weak point before it can collide with the planet!
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Apr 17, 2020 23:19
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Klisejo posted:all things aside, I'm glad they kept that silly powder blue truck from the original Cloud goes stright for the bitching motorcycle and Tifa, surely knowing high speed pursuit is inevitable, picks the Scooty Puff Jr with a cab that Barret can't even fit in. Actually this had me look up the scene from the original and drat but the years have turned this from super cool into super funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOW5XXaMzOM Caidin fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Apr 18, 2020 |
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Apr 18, 2020 00:29
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Flopsy posted:Did Wedge live? It was a little confusing...more importantly did the kitties make it??? Wedge only survived the plate dropping directly on his head via powerful Catomancy, and the Whispers knew they could not foil such feline might until the brave fool left their protection. Flopsy posted:My dude he was a cartoonish robot kitty in the original as well. One of the new twists of the timeline is that Reeve is actually a robotic drone controlled by Cait Sith.
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Funky Valentine posted:Cait's cameo is Square admitting that yeah he doesn't fit the game at all but whatever, he's cute and also he rides a moogle. I mean he made sense as thing you would find in Gold Saucer, like my assumption was Reeve just hacked a park mascot somehow to use as an intermediary and spy because he has the least pull among the executives outside maybe Palmer so he has to make due with things like that, somehow he had more then one on hand but whatever. Now it's just kinda plain Reeve's had him for probably years and since we're expanding on things in general I think its time to elaborate on this subject.
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I think it would have done okay and matched the increased general competency of the party in the Remake if their cover was blown in the Shinra building and they had to just blow though security one floor at a time until suddenly reinforcements slacken off after they blow through the lab and then stop completely, cue ominous music.
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Apr 18, 2020 03:55
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I just saw the board meeting, theres probably only a couple bosses left, I i'll knock it out and be done by midnight at the lightest!
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Speaking on Barret, I know why Tifa and Aerith never seriously push the Whats Wrong With Cloud button but Barret absolutely should raise the question of why this dude keep having crippling headaches, spacing way the hell out and in the Hojo labs staggered toward the elevator for 30 seconds muttering to himself before face planting. I think he'll ask Cloud if he's had enough sleep in Aeriths old cell and like nah come on man.
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