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so they are doing the kill bill 3 thing, meh also joel did nothing wrong
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I've seen a cutscene from what looks like the ending/near the end, doesn't look like ellie dies imho but that hardly matters because joels still dead and he did nothing wrong
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Apr 27, 2020 13:22
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CharlestonJew posted:do the leaks say anything about the game being filled with torture porn because that one scene from the reveal where the cult lady broke that girl's arm went on waaaaayyyyyyy too long and was really offputting there are at least 2 more scenes that are like that
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Apr 27, 2020 14:40
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fadam posted:Wait is she really lmao no
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Apr 27, 2020 15:19
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i see we arrived at the part where we just imagine the worst possible thing that could happen to get angry about the worst thing already happened and its joels death
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Apr 27, 2020 18:10
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who did nothing wrong
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Apr 27, 2020 18:11
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DLC Inc posted:I'm just tired of the belief that "not all games have to be fun" as a way to circumvent how droll and painful segments of TLOU were. That game was I guess an interesting experience but I'd never play it again because of how miserable it was and how generally boring the core stuff was, being either drawn out stealth fights or moving ladders/boxes around. Plenty of games like the MGS series occasionally throws a weird segment in to the mix for the experience but generally they were fun to play. the combat in tlou can be really fun imho
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Apr 27, 2020 21:03
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JBP posted:There are videos of "Abby vs Ellie" but it's just Abby and Ellie getting pummeled by some Schwarzenegger level woman? So they think the other character is Abby? Idk what I'm missing in the video. I've seen the plot summary with the ending. yes
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Apr 28, 2020 07:40
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Spermando posted:Maybe five or ten years from now you'll be able to show a woman lifting a heavy object in fiction without generating pages upon pages of discussion on whether it's feasible or sufficiently established that a woman is strong enough to lift a heavy object. no one said that
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Apr 28, 2020 07:51
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Onmi posted:Abby looks like Brock Lesnar vs Ellie or Dina. So it's hard to possibly feel like she's the victim when she caves Joel's head in with a golfclub, breaks Ellie's arm and starts literally hammering Dina's face into the ground until it's essentially caved in, not to mention her sheer glee at the idea of getting a double-kill by cutting Dina's throat and also killing her unborn child. violent revenge isn't pretty I guess?
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Apr 28, 2020 11:07
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Onmi posted:I love that... Pat on the Castle Superbeast podcast pointed out, there's nothing they can do to change this, not only is the PS5 just around the corner, they've killed the company on this game, there has been so much blood, so much sweat, you can't amass the force to make this game again and toss everything out. Like... it's you cancel the game or you bury your head and hope the press protects you. lol the game is going to get 90+ ratings and sell really well
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Apr 28, 2020 13:11
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:I'm genuinely curious what the moral and ethical "message" of the game will be. if you kill somebody better kill their friends and family too, it's the only way to be sure
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Apr 28, 2020 15:18
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Onmi posted:My point wasn't that it's fine if a poo poo game run by a poo poo company makes money, my point was the defense of "Well this game is going to review well and sell loads of copies." Is irrelevant. Mass Effect 3 reviewed and sold well and guess what, the damage done by that game tanked that loving franchise down into the ground. Because rarely is a successful sequel property going to be killed on its own merits, it'll kill what follows it. There are people who'll defend this, there are people who don't want to know and will buy it for themselves and there are pretentious fucks who'll claim this is deep or compelling storytelling because they have the knowledge of a gnat with about the same taste. ME3 was fine, if anything tanked the franchise it was Andromeda, because it was a bad game.
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Apr 28, 2020 15:25
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Stux posted:me to the poster dying on the hill of "woman cant be buff in zombie game": walk away. just walk away. everything he said is correct also mad max and tlou are obviously quite different settings
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Apr 28, 2020 17:59
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Dewgy posted:I think the main point is all y'alls are really undermining the message of "wow this writing is terrible" by following it up with "i'm a huge whiner who will complain about anything and i'm going to focus far too much energy on WHY LADY BUFF???" I don't think the game will suck, at the very least I'll probably enjoy the combat, don't know if the story/structure will work for me and I have no idea if the writing is terrible because I haven't actually played the game.
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Apr 28, 2020 18:07
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Stux posted:yeah one is about oil induced crisis and wars leading to a post-apocalyptic setting, which in the film specifically takes place in the australian desert, a place that is entirely barren and unfit to sustain the amount of food resources required for multiple different body builders to exist, and the other is about the cordyceps fungus spreading to humans creating zombies that click at you. mad max is about driving supercharged v8s, fighting motorcycle gangs in assless chaps and giant dudes being controlled by midgets tlou is bleak and relatively grounded + mushroom zombies the argument isn't that women can't be jacked or strong, it's everyone looked like a regular person in tlou1 and now they introduce a new character that looks like a pro athlete on roids personally I don't care that much but acting surprised that people notice or question it feels disingenuous
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Apr 28, 2020 18:32
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SunAndSpring posted:I'm trying to think of how other famous games, shows, and so on would go if they pulled a TLOU 2 and had you follow a random person you don't know after they kill someone the audience is already sympathetic towards. Like, imagine if in Breaking Bad, the show followed around that one dude that was an informant for the DEA for an episode, got your sympathies for this man trying to break out of drug peddling and who probably regrets getting his cousin arrested, while Walt and Jesse are just side characters for a bit. Then they gas him, Walt takes him to a basement, and then murders the guy and dissolves him in acid, and THEN the show starts following Walt around. It'd be the most baffling two episodes of TV anyone has ever seen. that sounds pretty cool if done well tbh
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Apr 28, 2020 18:41
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Stux posted:youre arguing the title with the made up zombies is less grounded while also apparently saying mad max films arent bleak which is a wild swing to take lol I'm saying mad max is intentionally over the top while tlou goes for "what if mushroom zombies + real world" there is a difference between fit and colleen fotsch, for example the only female mma fighter I can think of that is close to her physique is cyborg santos who tested positive for roids I disagree and not every post apocalyptic setting is the same
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Apr 28, 2020 19:21
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doingitwrong posted:I liked this thread better then it was about TLOU2 instead of a rehash of the TLOU1 thread. joel did nothing wrong
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Apr 29, 2020 12:14
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Stux posted:and regardless of that it doesnt justify joel. nothing justifies joel. there is no possible way to read the story where joel is justified in his actions. he isnt even the focus, its ellie. its about ellie having no choice over a life and death decision, with people fighting over it without ever considering her agency, and it ends with one side "winning" in an extremely violent manner, and its probably the side she wouldnt have chosen if she had been able to. and then he cannot even face up to his actions and simply tell her the truth, even though she knows the truth, because he has no humanity and his care for ellie is entirely selfish and superficial. of course there is fireflies don't give ellie a choice she dies joel doesn't give ellie a choice she lives
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Apr 29, 2020 19:27
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Stux posted:yes, both sides are being awful and denying her agency thats the point. the problem comes about where people view the fireflies as bad and joel as good. theyre both denying her a choice, but what compounds it is that from what we know of ellies character its likely she would choose the former. that doesnt justify the fireflies in denying her that choice though, but it does condemn joel even further, and his absolutely unwillingness to even be honest with her because he was never even considering what she wants only solidifies his absolute lack of humanity. his care is entirely for himself and it is a sociopathic level of acting that out. if he was honest at the end, then there could be some claim of some redemption or care in his actions. he isnt and there isnt, he doesnt care and the reason people view it is as "good" is: i like character, she doesnt die. its a flat reading that avoids dealing with joel being a complete monster. lol it's a parent willing to do anything to save his kid "I know you are just a 14 year old kid, who is probably suffering from survivors guilt, but I had to kill a bunch of people to save you because I'd rather burn the world to the ground than lose another child. PS I shot your surrogate mom"
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Apr 29, 2020 20:23
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:All of these retrospective "TLOU 1 was overrated trash" "was just OK/competent" takes are so hollow. It was a game that was almost universally loved upon release. Sure, emphasis on almost and some of you might be the exception, but it stinks of contrarian nonsense. agreed, it's one of my favourite games
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Apr 30, 2020 12:34
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Freelancefogy posted:So apparently they have a gym in this apocalypse, which is why Abby is so buff. somehow that intro doesn't give me the feeling that the game is about to condemn joel as a sociopath who only cares about himself, hmm also, those guns sound meaty as gently caress Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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Apr 30, 2020 15:11
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Zeta Acosta posted:Im going to be the contrarian: the uncharted series is loving trash also the bloody baron in witcher 3 is better than everything naughty dog has done so far not a fan of the story or the characters but uncharted 4 was a really impressive game imho
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Apr 30, 2020 18:24
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Fat_Cow posted:I like the part where after they beat his skull into a pulp with golf clubs they spit on his body saying "Burn in Hell penedejo" games gonna have to do wonders to stop me from cheering for their deaths
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Apr 30, 2020 19:31
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Kavak posted:They all wearing longsleeves but her and it bothers me. scavenge pharmacies for test so you unlock new melee finishers
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May 1, 2020 06:19
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RevolverDivider posted:Hard with most of the UI turned off and Grounded are some of the most fun I've had in a third person shooter. The game's systems work incredibly well at forcing you to stretch out incredibly limited resources and your toolset without actually being unfair. yeah it doesn't do a whole lot of different things but what it does it does really really well and I'm replaying the game atm and the takes itt on joel as some inhuman monster are straight up garbage
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May 1, 2020 19:11
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MeatwadIsGod posted:good post best critique of tlou itt imho
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May 2, 2020 06:08
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Arthil posted:I'm not understanding how people think they look... manly in any way. Or "Massively bulky". I've known many women who were built like a brick wall that looked bigger. lol
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May 2, 2020 12:43
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Mantis42 posted:also joel did nothing wrong you morons
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May 4, 2020 08:07
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Stux posted:he sucks he is loyal, competent and he pets dogs and horses he is very cool
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May 4, 2020 15:35
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Yeah you're right about that. They just put put a new story trailer full of "Not a lot of spoilers but a lot of scenes and dialogue mixed together out of context that make more sense when they're actually used in context. that's kind of a sloppy trailer and I assume they also disabled the like/dislike ratio because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-eYFDLTD0&t=1s
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May 6, 2020 15:46
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Viridiant posted:Me agreeing with one of Joel's decisions doesn't mean I agree with all of his decisions, nor does it mean that there aren't circumstances in which I'd agree with Ellie giving up her life. The situation as presented in the game was not one of those. I always got the impression that the game was not making a judgement either way as far as that decision goes, that they were leaving it up to the player to make a judgement. If the game was in fact saying Joel made a bad decision, then the game presented the scenario badly. 
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May 7, 2020 05:58
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ImpAtom posted:At least in the leaked footage they are kind of at weird odds. Ellie keeps questioning Joel about the truth and picking holes in his story and he just gets angry and continues to lie. It's very clear Ellie knows he's lying but she doesn't know the full extent of what happened. actually tommy tells him that he'd have done the same thing as joel
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May 7, 2020 06:28
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Stux posted:the spoilers about how the game opens + this really makes it seem like tlou2 is being specifically made to annoy people who didnt get the themes of tlou1 and im here for it lol
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May 7, 2020 20:13
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Buckwheat Sings posted:Sounds like someone watched the series "Leftovers" and thought it was the most amazing thing ever instead of realizing it's just depression porn. leftovers season 2 (and maybe 3) is the only good thing lindelof ever did
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May 9, 2020 16:45
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lol i enjoyed killing poo poo in tlou1 and I'll probably enjoy it in tlou2 the gameplay mechanics are great for stealthy aggressive play
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May 9, 2020 18:24
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after collecting enough scrap to use the upgrade system and blasting some guy with my newly enhanced shotgun I'm gonna feel real bad when his headless corpse hits the ground, which took an entire team of professional devs months of work to make it look & sound as detailed as possible because you see, violence bad
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May 9, 2020 19:54
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game looks good, combat & stealth look even better and more fluid than in the first game and the impact from hitting/shooting enemies is going to be really satisfying violence is rad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIWss-_5HGM this is gonna be me, but with dogs
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