Theantero posted:

But it's not multiplayer, now is it? It's a weird hoop you have to jump through to unlock your last team slot in a single player experience, and no matter how many gachas do something similar, it'll still be a bad design choice. Like, imagine if your last nugget in Ruina was gated behind pilfering one from someone on your friend list instead of its inclusion being part of normal game progression? Utterly baffling. Kudos to PM for avoiding the worst pitfalls of genre convention here though, since apparently it's even worse in other gachas.

(Yes, I know it's opt out, yes, I have beaten the content thus far without using any of it. It's just weird and annoying and bad and I wish having 6 sinners was something you could do on your own)

I suppose the fault lies in me for litigating this constant apologia from the entire assembled Whalers' Guild over what was supposed to be a relatively minor complaint about a specific thing I dislike in a game I otherwise enjoy. I'll bow out.

TeeQueue posted:

Kinda not cool to pile onto a person who’s already acquiesced the point, y’know…

I have thoughts about the 6 man thing myself but they’re too nuanced (read: ) to post on a phone.

Solitair posted:

edit: I think this is the first time I've accidentally posted twice in a row.

Lakbay posted:

I'm stuck on Kromer too, except my problem is she just rolls higher than me consistently and I can't win any clashes, I got her to phase 2 once so at least I got to hear the full Mili song. It shows that she has no resistances but I assume that's a lie because I see Blunt pop off as ineffective and Slash as normal

BisbyWorl posted:

https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1651843155279634438

00 N Don.

darkfenrir posted:

Surprisingly, yes! Although the original words in CN is 禁闭者 which isn't sinner but just "someone who is confined" iirc. So some translation license here.

(Although because Dante got bullied a lot by Sinners, and Chief (who is the main character in PtN) is also bullied a lot by Sinners, I and some other friends end up joking about how Chief ends up in Limbus Company haha))

Lord_Magmar posted:

If the Inquisition is the "Nail" half of Nagel und Hammer, maybe Meursaults focus will be the uhhhh, Hammer, part.

ShoutokuTaisho posted:

Guido refers to himself as a hammer of the one who grips, and Sinclair says, when talking about the past, that people calling themselves hammers started to appear in town. I think it's fair to say that the inquisition is the Hammer part.

Junpei posted:

I've kind of been operating under the assumptions that a Nest is centered in the direct middle of the district it's in (they're all vaguely circular/round) and the Backstreets form a 'ring' around the Nest. Is that what you think they look like, too? Just idly curious.

A Hook Office Fixer, Page 2 posted:

Backstreets are spread all over the City, and the Nests are no exception. But all this means is that “there are Backstreets in the Nests”, since the Nests are completely segregated from the Backstreets in terms of access.

GilliamYaeger posted:

That's what I'd assume too, with the Backstreets filling the gaps between the Nests...but I also distinctly remember a flashback in Wonderlab where the Nest that Rose grew up in was far above the Backstreets? But I can't remember where it was in the comic and it's a bit much to just dig through a 50 chapter long comic for a single image...

Junpei posted:

They sent out a warning on Twitter: There's a glitch on the Android version that they're still trying to iron out, but IOS and Steam versions are fine.

Cirina posted:

Because IDs are based on other people, so it's an ID based on a TLA person who uses the EGO as their own equipment. It's not 'Heathcliff wearing an EGO' it's 'Heathcliff using an ID that puts him into the role of someone who has the EGO as their equipment'. Like how Faust has an ID that puts her into the role of Kromer, and another that puts her into the role of Yuri, etc. We just don't know who that is quite yet because we haven't seen anyone using it in the story. We'll probably meet them in part 2.

GilliamYaeger posted:

Because of the hood, I strongly suspect that this is actually a Dongbaek identity (aka the woman who stabbed Yi Sang and may or may not be his wife) so it's likely not a "goon" but rather a specific named character.

L.U.I.G.I posted:

Speaking of the Head, can we talk about the similarities with the Birds? Claw is Punishing, Big Eye is Beholder and Punishing is Arbiter? Anyone?

Endorph posted:

look ill be pulling for her to be clear but 'this game isnt horny' and 'heres ishmael covered in slime' makes for very funny contrast

GiantRockFromSpace posted:

I know that ultimately Seasonal IDs are generally meant to represent enemy characters/NPC from the chapter, but I still find it weird that in an alternate world Yi Sang awakens to the same E.G.O as Dongbaek. Like, you know, collective unconcious, same ideas spawwning similar stuff but usually E.G.O. that manifest outside of abnormalities are usually personal.

Although his lines sound different so it could be the same E.G.O. but different meaning about it.

Endorph posted:

what if they released the 'ishmael buying wonder bread' ego

Lurks With Wolves posted:

Strong Tremor support whose burst helps you synergize with Rupture teams, even. It's just LCCB but with a better first skill and no interesting mechanical touches.

(I'm genuinely kind of sad about how boring Sloshing Ishmael is.)

GilliamYaeger posted:

Wouldn't it be cleaner to just have it be a level check rather than all this nonsense about individual moves having different values?

GilliamYaeger posted:

A seemingly arbitrary swing of 1/2 power either way isn't really that useful a lever, especially when it's attached to a mechanic that's got little to no visible feedback. The entire system's basically invisible which means its unintuitive to strategize around, and when it does come into play the nature of it with the rework (and the fact that it needs a rework this early in the first place shows how poorly thought out it was) means that it's barely going to tip the scales either way. If you tell me that you've ever factored in offence/defence level into your strategies, then I will call you a liar.

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If you want texture and definition, that's what the actual skills already accomplish. For the vast, vast majority of people playing the game, this system may as well not exist...and if it did actually meaningfully change things, all that would cause would be complaints. "I rolled three heads with my skill, which should have resulted in an 18. Why did I get a 16, and lose to my opponents 17? I don't have any debuffs and the opponent doesn't have any buffs, so what gives? This is bullshit." "Well you see, your problem is that you didn't check this arbitrary number that's buried in your stats screen."

It's a finnicky system that doesn't really add much to the game other than loving up player-side napkin math.

GilliamYaeger posted:

I'll be nice and overlook the baseless insults. But answer this: Is there really that much mechanical difference between (using the current system) a 42 power skill that rolls 5+4+4, and a 36 power skill that rolls 6+4+4? Wouldn't it be simpler if they both just had 5 base power?

RandomReader posted:

The cleanest gameplay is staring at a wall, but we subject ourselves to varying degrees of nonsense complexity anyway. Not to say it's wrong to simplify if gameplay is too finicky or something, but it's not a good in and of itself.

L.U.I.G.I posted:

Level 5 as in the stat being higher than 80 or simply a full 100?

Ariamaki posted:

I am diving for the +Cost, then beelining damage line to the capstone probably, followed by the rest of the resources line. HOPEFULLY I can double-back from the left capstone to finish out the health line without ever taking the +SP node, just to make using low-SP IDs more consistent. If not, at least for N Clair in specific it'd probably help keep him from Souping.

Aumanor posted:

On that topic, when the hell are we getting a Liu ID with a guandao?

Boksi posted:

I don't think Lobotomy Corporation would build a branch facility in the outskirts. We might have to sail over to some island off the coast, or maybe find some underwater facility, but that's probably still going to be within the City.

Arcanuse posted:

Lobcorp might not have a proper branch on the outskirts, but the early days did have a facility out there*. I think, been a while.
Probably long gone well before the branches all got sealed, or at minimum picked clean by scavengers.

_{*There being 'somewhere in the outskirts'. Where exactly, or even which direction from the city?}

Aumanor posted:

Anyone care to post the rest of the thread? I haven't been able to see replies on Twitter for a while now, probably because I don't have an account.

KobunFan posted:

Hey, can anyone explain what "attack weight" is to me?

Garren_Windspear posted:

...so it's entirely possible I missed something somewhere during the last massive update but is there a reason I did my weekly Hard Mirror Dungeon run and it seemed to have eaten all three of my weekly normal Mirror Dungeon bonuses?

Fair enough if that's the case (the reward for the Hard run was obscene) but just checking I didn't run into a glitch or something.

Lord_Magmar posted:

The only unique reward Hard gives is the weekly hard mode bonus. So you can do any number of normal and then a hard and it will be the same more or less.

RandomReader posted:

Last I knew using the bonus up on hard gave you more bp per weekly bonus than normal, but I haven't double checked that since the past few rebalancings.

Junpei posted:

So, wait, do you think we'll actually fight Opened Can of Wellcheers in the event?

Einander posted:

Either half or all of those people are dead. Either they obediently fought to the death as always before they hit the legal time limit on how long you can have multiple clones of the same people, or they refused and ran for their lives, in which case they got Claws sent after them and died. The Head takes its forbidden technologies very seriously.

VinnyDonuts posted:

The other fun part: Unless they both appeared in the same place, neither pack would really have any way of knowing that their copies are alive. The second one might be able to put 2 and 2 together and infer that if they're alive, it's possible their clones are as well, and that means they're in real trouble. They might be the ones who just gently caress off into the outskirts for the sake of saving their copies who would have no way of knowing they're in deep poo poo.

L.U.I.G.I posted:

I'm going to say it once: Elle est belle et elle est magnifique.

Now I can legally go back to hating every piece of fanservice that has ever touched this Earth

Also, concerning RCorp, I would really like to see Maxim, Myo and the third one in Limbus but the RCorp identity should indicate that they are alive if nothing else. You can't take a copy of yourself in a particular role if that self is dead after all.

BisbyWorl posted:

https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1683399847884488704

Event info is up.

GilliamYaeger posted:

We have our second alternate ZAYIN EGO, and it looks like it's a good one. I don't know why they removed Representation Emitter's party-wide SP heal only to immediately give us another ZAYIN with the exact same effect, that also refunds EGO resources upon use.

MotU posted:

you cannot base a currency on this.

Jack Van Burace posted:

lmao that there's an extremely angry whale in this thread who gets pissed that people rightly point out this is a predatory gacha, just like all the rest, generous to F2P or not. The next level of character upgrade will be even worse, even more expensive, worse to F2P people, that's how these gachas go. Gachas don't deserve defense from anyone! At least recognize that much - I play FGO, hell I even spend money on it, but I'd never defend their practices, and Project Moon is not some kind company that needs to be defended against unjust claims - they gave up that label the moment they decided to go with the gacha model instead of just releasing a regular game. They're as scummy as any other gacha team, as bad as Lasengle/Typemoon, miHoYo or Square Enix.

(Edit) On that note, surely this thread belongs in the mobile games forum with others of its type, right? Good to have that gambling addiction warning thread there for games like this, y'know.

TeeQueue posted:

If you're spending more than 10.99/season for the battlepass (or local equivalent amount) then you're getting way more than you actually need, tbh... but they REALLY want to make everyone get that 10.99 battle pass.

I'm still getting both of the monthly passes to the tune of ~10bux/month, but that's because I'm treating the game like a patreon for project moon and just shoving money at them to go KEEP MAKING poo poo I LIKE.

Quackles posted:

On one of her streams, apparently. (I don't know what she streams.)

DropTheAnvil posted:

Mirror dungeons don't give scrap. Don't ask me why they say dungeons give scrap, but specifically point out MD's dont

Junpei posted: