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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Faustian Bargain posted:

The moderator isn't stopping them from talking over each other. This is terrible.

Actually, it’s good OP

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
How can some of you be surprised by this? Joe and Trump are both dementia riddled boomers but Trump doesn’t have a filter.

Trump was expected to do this, and it’s hilarious.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Xombie posted:

Who would watch this and think "wow 4more years of this sounds awesome"?

Better than Biden’s ineffectual war-hawk centralism lmao.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Push El Burrito posted:

Biden should just be shouting "HERMAN CAIN!"

But but decorum!

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

IT BURNS posted:

No negative effect aside from Herman Cain dying...

Correct, Herman Cain dying was not a negative effect.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Haha Joe has no answers to “why didn’t you fix the tax code when you were in power?”

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

T Bowl posted:

I agree more with Biden on issues than Bernie and I'd still have picked Bernie because Biden sounds like a wet mop

What the gently caress? What specifically do you agree with more?

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

T Bowl posted:

I just think we can't pay for everything so easily, maybe healthcare but we're not close and won't be any time soon. Education an even worse prospect. Sorry if that is not good enough for you. Bernie is selling something that's not happening basically. Look at this loving country.

Lmao. Do you actually think health care costs what hospitals actually charge? Or Tuition? Hahahah.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Bad Apples? gently caress YOU JOE.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Lol, the republicans should let the Dems block their SCOTUS pick. Then every single moderate that Joe has won would crawl over broken glass in an active land mine field to vote for Trump.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

litany of gulps posted:

LOL, Trump doing to Biden on the Green New Deal what Biden did to Bernie on health care - it'll cost infinite trillions of money! More money than anyone could ever imagine!

Posters in this very thread believe Joe’s line about healthcare.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

spunkshui posted:

The gently caress debate did you watch?

The one where he disparaged UHC, BLM, the GND, and refused to condemn police brutality?

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

How are u posted:

It's good to know you're with Trump on these issues, then.

Trump is also against those issues. Good try though.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ReidRansom posted:

I mean...

But he shouldn't back out. Trump wil first

Lmao the hell Trump will.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

volts5000 posted:

The president just told, on national television, the Proud Boys and other white supremacists militias to stand. Yeah. Totally the same.

And Joe promises to give them more money.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ascii genitals posted:

An incoherent madman was yammering in his ear non stop. You want Biden to endorse burning down police stations and think that would be a good response? Oh gently caress off--Biden sucks but Trump is a lunatic.

Supporting Burning down police stations is quite the jump from “condemning police brutality.” Do go on with your reactionary horseshit though. :allears:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Jerusalem posted:

Basically said that nearly every single thing Trump said was not only a lie, but lies that have already been factchecked and proven to be wrong.

And that won’t matter at all to anybody lol. Trump is expected to lie and will always lie. No amount of fact checking matters to his supporters or the people who may vote for him.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ascii genitals posted:

If you were actually paying attention to what Trump was saying he was specifically questioning how non-violent and how peaceful protesters are. Let me be clear, I wholly support BLM and think the police are out of control in this country. I also, at the same time, believe Biden is a far better candidate than Trump.

You want Biden to be baited into producing more sound bites for Trump, or at least you sure sound like you do. I'm not happy with what Biden said, but I can understand that a dog barking in your ear will throw you off.

A pretty straight forward answer would have been something along the lines of: “Violent protests are bad, and I understand why people are angry. Police Brutality is a serious problem in this country and we need to address it on a national level.”

Instead we got “A few bad apples!” Out of him.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Bootleg Trunks posted:

But it's full of holes and made of cardboard

And it will still kill everybody, except it won’t post about it on Twitter.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

nine-gear crow posted:

People are mad that the life raft they're being thrown isn't bedazzled with diamonds and will willingly take a gulp of sea water out of spite.

People are mad that the life raft they’re being thrown isn’t going to stop them from drowning, and the people causing the need for the loving life raft to begin with are responsible for sinking/letting others sink the boat to begin with.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Bootleg Trunks posted:

Its falling apart and crumbling away and now I'm drowning anyway but I guess I should be thankful

What? You think we have the funds to make you a nice lift raft after we paid for 1,000 yachts for billionaires???

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

spacetoaster posted:

"I am the Democrat party" Joe isn't going to listen to any of us and I'm not going to be fooled into thinking he will.

He doesn't care about global warming, doesn't support M4A during a pandemic, and certainly won't be reforming the police or reigning in wall street.

He hasn't said, or done, anything to deserve my vote.

Uh excuse me sir, but you should be grateful for getting the chance to vote for the very guy who helped gently caress up enough things over the decades to bring us to Trump.

You need to vote for the guy who left the hen house open to get rid of the wolf in the hen house!

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

volts5000 posted:

And the life raft that could've saved us fell off the boat and is at the bottom of the ocean. Maybe if we sink a little more, we'll get closer to that raft.

The DNC pushed the raft that could have saved us all off the boat in the first place.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Popete posted:

I too think Donald Trump is a better alternative on all these issues.

Joe Biden sucks poo poo, that's not the question here.

Joe Biden would lead to an even worse Trump due to his ineffectual centrism that also lead to Reagan, Bush JR and Trump the first time.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

volts5000 posted:

So let's sink a little more. And in four years, we'll sink a little more and be even closer. And in ANOTHER four years, we'll sink more and be almost there! Holy poo poo! Think of far down we'll be after that! It'll be amazing!

Ah yes, I too want to reward the people who sank the loving boat in the first place with their poo poo behavior. Great idea!

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

LionArcher posted:

That's your theory. We don't know that for sure.

It’s only happened three times before. NBD.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

gently caress off rear end in a top hat. It’s a trend that’s happened repeatedly over the last four decades.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

SKULL.GIF posted:

"They're just mad that their life raft isn't ostentatiously, uselessly trinketed," a very cogent criticism of leftists :)

What? You want cops to just stop shooting unarmed people? Next you are going to ask for the world! Stop being so selfish and accept incremental change ok? How about instead of “don’t shoot unarmed people” we go with “shoot them in the leg?”

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

TyrantWD posted:

Remember when people said the same thing about Hillary and that Trump winning would lead to the glorious socialist revolution in 2020?

Yeah, if the DNC wanted to support any form of socialism at all that would have happened.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ascii genitals posted:

You're bitching about a life raft analogy and trying to bring everyone down, and for what? What is even your point?

The point is Joe and the DNC are bad and shouldn’t be rewarded for their terrible behavior. Everybody should vote 3rd party instead of for the people who looked at the boat that was listing to the right and decided that moving more and more to the right was better than moving to the left to upright the boat.

FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Sep 30, 2020

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

MakaVillian posted:

Jimmy Carter was a centrist? (for the late 70s)

He absolutely was?

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ascii genitals posted:

There are no 3rd parties with candidates that are inspiring. The green party has failed to move Democrats left in any election over, what, the last 30 years? No one is going to feel punished because you and two other morons are casting protest votes for some nobody. Get real. You could be doing real work to influence local and state elections, but instead you're here casting doom and gloom about voting against Trump. Ineffectual, uninspiring foolishness.

The Trump supporting AG that just let the cops that murdered Taylor in her sleep was appointed by the Democrat Governor. So don’t give me this poo poo.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ElrondHubbard posted:

Yes, this will work out great, just like after 2000 and 2016 when we suffered through terrible presidencies due to close margins and yet after all the suffering a socialist utopia didn’t materialize. Maybe if we do it again...

Perhaps the DNC should offer progressives reasons to vote for them then? Also if you gave all the libertarian votes to Trump he would have won the popular vote. Even if you gave all the Stein votes to Clinton.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ascii genitals posted:

Haha yeah electing a Democratic governor is going to fix Kentucky's problems lickety split in 1 year or it's a total failure--more magical thinking from Ratbert.

HE APPOINTED THE AG

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

1stGear posted:

lmao the governor made a unilateral decision to appoint the AG and you somehow found a way to blame everyone but him lmao

Voting for a democrat surely would have prevented a democrat from appointing a right wing AG!

Wait...

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ascii genitals posted:

Come brag about how good your protest vote felt when your rights are stripped away by a 2nd term Trump admin. Ratbert, in a post-democracy America we won't have attorneys general anymore so you won't have anything to bitch about. Success!

By this stupid logic a vote for anybody but Trump is a vote for Joe. Don’t vote shame me because your candidate sucks.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ascii genitals posted:

Oh it absolutely is. Your vote for Howie Whatshisname is a vote for Trump. Make no mistake, you can vote 3rd party up and down the ticket all you want--but the presidential election is Biden vs. Trump. Whatever nonsense scenario you're playing out in your mind that says otherwise is a farce and a mistake.

Again, by this very logic a vote for Howie is also a vote for Joe. So I say again: gently caress off with this horseshit vote shaming. Votes aren’t a right, they should be earned.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

HD DAD posted:

Because they don’t want to admit they want a second Trump term.

Or perhaps the other candidate is offering policies that align with their political views????

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Seven Hundred Bee posted:

the President of the United States went on TV and told a violent militia group to "stand by" and people are debating about the loving Green Party, lol'ing forever

Yeah, the other one also told the proud boys to stand by.

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Popete posted:

"Joe Biden would have vetoed the Green New Deal" I smugly reply as my ballot for the 2022 midterms is rejected under the new Trump Fair Voting Act.

“At least I voted for Biden” I smugly reply as I choke to death on toxic fumes from the new oil refinery that the Biden administration is subsidizing.

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