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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Oh, if there's still room for recommendations...

If we're going to have a Politics section I'll throw in for Beau of the Fifth Column: https://www.youtube.com/user/unvoicedproject

He doesn't get talked about much here but I generally like him. As opposed to a lot of politics channels that get posted in the thread he tends to do short daily videos addressing current topics and his thoughts. This makes it a lot harder to just go back and watch when you're bored, but it's kind of nice to just have a 5-10 minute rundown when you want it. He's pretty leftist and also talks from a Southern point of view. I like it and it makes him stand out a little.

Also, since I didn't see her in the list, Nyx Fears: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGC3ocH2v8O7elbGwGKdaBQ

She covers horror movies and a lot of schlock, usually from interesting angles and often with a trans or generally LGBT lens. For example, she did a surprisingly interesting video about re-watching Sleepaway Camp after transitioning. There's also a whole series covering some of the most disgusting movies you can watch if you hate yourself. Her video aesthetic has changed a lot and she spent a little time in the last year or so re-finding her voice, but I think she's doing well now. It's a very specific type of schlocky fun with a lot of video effects and what I "think" counts as goon-style irony.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

The Horse in Tears posted:

Strange Æons
Bit of an edge case but the book videos and tumblr deep dives qualify.

Strange Aeons can probably be a little much for some people, but her videos can be really fun and interesting. It's like a more wholesome version of weekend web or goon dumbassery. She covered long furbies, then built one, made it a rainbow birthday cake and then put Porridge "The Boy" Thursday the long furby onto Tinder. He did surprisingly well.

It's also fun to occasionally see some weird glimpse of what little Zoomer subcultures are up to. poo poo's crazy.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Casey Finnigan posted:

my prediction for the snyder cut is that it will come out and it probably will not be much better than the original cut and nobody's opinion of the movie will be particularly changed in any direction.

e: also most people won't even watch it

This was what I thought until I heard that he's adding Jared Leto's Joker in. That's a powerful commitment to...something. Probably not something good, but something.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
That would make sense since isn't that happening with Disney? They're realizing that Disney+ is simultaneously a huge drain on resources while also maybe being their one potential way to hang on through the continuing pandemic.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
^Yay! Someone else is watching Beau. Check out his videos. They're good little slices. I kind of wish he dug in and dig a few more essays rather than short news of the day stuff, but then again, it's kind of nice to have something that isn't an hour and a half long to watch.

Nuns with Guns posted:

I have no idea what Dan's stance is, honestly, since I don't know the guy and that tweet is a weak fart in the wind as far as making any clear political declaration goes. It's on Twitter though so people are going to naturally read it in the most extreme ways possible.

It's honestly kind of impressive. Like a mirror universe GetFiscal. Pointless, able to be read multiple ways because it's so weak, pisses literally everyone off and didn't need to be made at all. Kind of beautiful.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
In fairness, T1J is a political commentator, pretty much, even if he doesn't get posted much in here.

Not to continue the derail, because it should probably stop, but note that some people are having a hard time just kicking back and enjoying it because all of the shittest Dems also didn't wait a day to start attacking AOC and the left and blame them for Biden not winning all 50 states.

It would have been nice to just have a straight day off to enjoy it though, I agree.

Shame that there aren't more videos kicking around. The curse of the end of the month video dump, I guess. ManyATrueNerd's videos are usually solid, but I really liked the look at Teardown he did a few days ago. Lots of fun with physics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxTVdUoDBFg and also a game that my potato of a computer will never be able to play.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Nuns with Guns posted:

lol, but also do 16 year olds really watch a show that's almost as old as they are?

Surprisingly, yeah. My teen niece got really into it for a little bit at least. It's never been easier to binge watch shows on Netflix so all it takes is one friend liking it or a good Twitter/Insta/Tumblr post and they can be all in.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
It's also weird, because has Hasan softened his image that much? I don't really watch him too much since I don't have the time or setup to really watch a lot of streams, but the last stream I saw was in March, I think? It was right after Chris Matthews had his on-air meltdown that Bernie was going to have a capo kill him in Central Park and Hasan's entire stream was his circle and the Chapos loving around at a firing range as the chat made "Central Park Training" jokes for an hour.

I have trouble seeing that as "mainstream" unless words are steadily losing their meaning.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

muscles like this! posted:

Yeah, you only really have to worry about the locks where he shows a massive security flaw where you can just pop a part off and it opens. Not so much the ones where he uses some custom built tool that only he and Bosnian Bill have.

I think he's made the point before that he tries to take into account the purpose of the lock when doing an actual review. He usually reserves getting actually mad for terrible gun locks (and there are so many terrible gun locks), or the last time it came up in this thread there was an angry video about a terrible boat or tool trailer lock, since those trailers actually are a big target for theft and need a solid enough lock that takes more than a few seconds to pick.

But it is unnerving to see some "super secure unpickable lock" get defeated in a couple minutes though. But that video was also a crazy turn when it became the equivalent of a hacker releasing a vulnerability.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I assumed it was some weird parody in the vein of quiton or something but I think it’s legit.


Sure but it’s still super loving vague like I think the dude just doesn’t get jokes.

Nah, it's a parody/joke. There's a few hand tips in the video, but the credits confirm it, even though Poe's Law is quite real when it comes to stuff like this. Although it's more a parody of terrible videos like the Game Theory ones or the plethora of "What if children's show was really dark and edgy!" than something like Quinton or what gets posted here.

"Well, I sure hope Skin Theory is real, otherwise Spongebob gave that poor fish 3rd-degree burns. How horrifying is that!"
"The man in the horse suit was the guy who voiced Klaus on American Dad, another proof of Skin Theory. The show was really ahead of its time (because American Dad came out 2 years after that episode aired :)).

I liked it overall. It's a long joke based entirely on the meta humor of it existing. I like stuff like Episode One though and used to write snarky articles on fake symbolism to piss off my English teacher so it spoke to my soul. Plus I got it recommended to me through Twitter by a person noting it was a deeply committed joke, so that was my headspace going in. I was actually getting ready to link it and you beat me to it.

It sucks a little since it being that long is part of the joke, but well, it's an hour-long shitpost. Although it's a good excuse to watch a ton of Spongebob clips.

Plus the end kind of drops the conceit to point out that he just really wanted to make a video about how much he liked early Spongebob and was saddened by Hillenburg's Death.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Yeah, Cleese apparently signed that letter defending Rowling a while ago and I think it came up last night because he was making the one joke (except he was identifying as a Cambodian policewoman).

For ghosts, I just end up thinking of the joke from Jenny's video on Paranormal Home Inspectors. They get stuck with things like TVs turning on and off and doors opening, because if you've got a good haunting story you're not going to them first.

There's an absolutely terrible series that's on Amazon Prime, but also YouTube, called Hellier by some paranormal group called Planet Weird. I had it recommended to me and it sincerely made me lose respect in that person because holy poo poo is it boring. They're investigating a story of aliens living in the abandoned mines of Kentucky and a bunch of "high strangeness" happening in the area, and then it's 6 hours of "Oh my god! We talked on the phone for 43 minutes and the seance we did last night was 43 minutes long, it's a sign!" Also their actual investigation confirms that they got hoaxed halfway through the series and they just ignore it and pretend like it was fate.

How do you take a story about a retired monster hunter passing along a tip about a family getting run off of their land by creepy aliens and make it boring. Like, I knew it was stupid but thought it would at least be creepy and fun. I'd watch a movie about that premise at least.

Why do I bring it up, because I will have a small amount of love for their repeated theory of a unified paranormal world. For example, what if Bigfoot sightings are just neanderthal ghosts? What if :thunk:

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Dawgstar posted:

My favorite ghost hunter show was Paranormal State. A friend went to high school with the show’s creator and said that is exactly what the guy wanted to do so props for that but the show itself was high comedy. They acted like they were the first last and only kind of defense against demon possession which often included listing demons pulled from the D&D Monster Manual. Their psychic is Chip Coffey who looks like Foghorn Leghorn’s nephew grown up

I think I mentioned it before, but the best was one of their first demonic possession episodes (well, funny aside from the whole "this kid has undiagnosed problems that they're blaming on demons".) The editors for the show kept making letters flash on the screen in blood red to make it extra spooky, because the team kept refusing to name the demon. Coffey partially wrote it out to the lead and they had a whole freakout over how this was a special demon that the lead had had a run-in with before in some incident that he never wanted to talk about. They also keep insisting that the kid naming the demon was a big deal because the name was super secret occult knowledge that the kid couldn't possibly know.

If you bothered to note the letters, it was Belial. That little-known demon who's in a ton of media and is a big bad in some little indie series of games called Diablo. I was enough of a nerd to be on the show's forums at the time, and after that episode they went nuts. At first people assumed that the editors had just picked a random demon name, but the lead's verified account confirmed that it was right and that they were furious with the producers.

After it aired it was an amazing mix of people baffled that they were being this stupid (demons and the Warrens were a step too far for a lot of ghost believers) and people who were loving pissed that the show would invite a demon into the viewers' houses by sharing the name.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
I was once doing a little pay-per-post job on some tiny political forum. I think it had like 10 posters, probably half of us all paid to kickstart it. I ended up asking for mod powers to be nice because even this tiny little space would get hit by drive-by random porn posts and ad-spam. I can't imagine any forum, space or server with a real footprint.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
^Edit: The sequels suffer the crime of being surprisingly boring. There are a few good action moments but nothing really fits and they wind up being a big mushy pile. As much as people make fun of the terrible Architect scene or the twins, it's because those are some of the only moments that really stand out aside from the highway chase and maybe the Zion battle.

For the games, yeah here's the little minute and a half vid of the pre-boss roll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1XhcSyVr-A

As much as it ended up being a tire fire, there's a part of me that appreciates the weird attempt to make the Matrix this expansive multimedia thing with the games and movies all linking. It'll be interesting to see if the Matrix Online is still canon.


Farm Frenzy posted:

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh actually in the officially canon matrix online a sizable portion of humanity voluntarily stays in the matrix while civilisation is rebuilt

That was even in the movie, to be fair. Wasn't that the text of Neo's deal with them. That if 99% of humanity was subconsciously agreeing to stay in the Matrix, that it wouldn't really be a big deal to just be honest and let them make it as a conscious choice and break the cycle. The setup for the Matrix Online seemed interesting in general. Shame about the gameplay itself, at least from what I heard.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Groovelord Neato posted:

In the Borat 2 the funniest (and most offensive scene) the people are in it.

Honestly, if anything I thought Borat 2 suffered a bit from the number of prank scenes where the people figured it out. Like, I thought it was hard to laugh at the "how many girls do you usually put in a cage this size" scene when it was clearly some dude just rolling with the film crew. I think people are catching on to prank stuff a lot more than they used to. Eric Andre seemed to be having a hell of a time actually getting people in the most recent season too.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Kim Justice posted:

Which take is worse: Being mad at Patrick Klepek for following the basic tasks of his job, or calling Mia Mulder bougie for complaining about being woken up by jackhammers in the morning?

There's a funny side that goons, possibly including me, used to get mad at Patrick for being a lovely journalist who barely reached out to experts or do anything but navel gaze.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Especially with what feels like a shift to all those 5-10 second ads you can't skip followed up by a 30-second ad you have to separately skip. For a little bit I kept getting music videos that some new wannabe artist was peddling.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
^I don't like his adaptation as a whole, but they nailed the casting for Rorschach.

A lot of people got tired of watching a new person and then hearing them go on a really lovely rant. The era of Trump made this way worse. It's especially true since the thread tends to deal with people doing analysis of stuff, if not outright political talk, so politics are going to eventually come up. It's not that weird for people to ask if anyone already knows the person :shrug:.

The whole art and artist separation doesn't come up much because we don't tend to focus too much on apolitical funny channels. Although sometimes the thread does. I'm still looking for a good chill streamer to fill dead air with after Cryaotic's whole disgrace.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Paingod556 posted:

It was definitely patched in that you could send the mutant into the room. I would guess because they wanted it to have a sacrificial ending, either yourself or one of your companions needs to go inside and get killed in the process.

'But what if we send in the guy who wouldn't die doing this.'
'No, that would be cowardice.'
'Can I send in the BoS companion to die instead'
'Sure you can. Coward.'

And in the process of checking, I found a note on the wiki that all companions are immune to radiation for gameplay reasons. So good work there, Bethesda

I feel like it was really pure Bethesda writing too, since it would have been trivially easy to just write around it. Oh, your Super Mutant, well probably not a good idea to have him around a bunch of Brotherhood of Steel assholes in a firefight. Same with the Ghoul. Your robots, uh, they'll mess with Liberty Prime's sensors, so they gotta hang back. And there you go. But nah, gently caress it. They could have even just had your companions hang back to hold off some attack and then, oops, somebody's gotta sacrifice themselves.

A weird memory, since I now remember that DLC being a huge part of the argument over whether Mass Effect 3 should change the ending. Since Bethesday had to step in and waste some of their DLC patching the holes in their bad ending.

Edit: Man I forgot about Mothership Zeta. The DLC for FO3 was such a waste beside Point Lookout. I was writing game guides around FO3 at the time, and writing for the WWIII VR thing was so awkward. Just pages of, go here, shoot these guys, then go here I guess and shoot more guys. Now you got some armor. Cool.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Really the most mind-blowing thing about it was that he apparently kept doubling down on the day of, although most of those tweets are gone too.

Like, his apology does lightly go into how he told it in an intentionally obnoxious way and that he left out the supposed fun that they had during it. Although hearing that it did pretty much happen that way (just with more laughing and a snack) is still kind of surprising and stupid. But, I don't understand why someone in that position doesn't immediately throw out a quick "Oops, this was a joke that only my fans and followers would get. Obviously, I was exaggerating and mocking the whole subgenre of dumb boomer parenting and woke toddler tweets. It didn't really happen this way. It was a bad joke. I understand and I'm sorry if I upset it anyone." Pin it, nuke your old tweets and turn off notifications for a few days.

But, no, gotta double down.

I'm also starting to feel a little cursed. Like Phillby, I went through and added a bunch of the old Friendly Fire podcasts to my library about a day or so before Bean Dad. Not that long ago, I started lining up Cryaotic streams to watch about a day before he came out with his "oh, whoops I kind of groomed some underage fans" message. I also idly started to watch the daily highlights from FunHaus right before they had their little scandal. Woolie's Paper Mario playthrough has been on my watchlist for a bit so hopefully it's chosen to pass that channel over at least.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Also props to the original SWAT FMV game from the Police Quest series. A truly random experience where on the first mission you can be asked to cover the team's entrance. You can then listen to them find the suspect and arrest them all on their own. Mission complete.

I went ahead and bought SWAT 4 on GOG just to get the extra missions, since I only had the original set on my old disk. It still plays pretty well. Just a shame about the AI though.

For fun, try SWAT 3 too. It's a wonderful chaotic experience. Weirdly enough it has QoL improvements over 4 that I miss, while also being inconvenient and out of date in other ways.

Accidentally reporting too many dead people as wounded, or double-reporting shot suspects will make your team disrespect you so much that they stop following your orders over the course of the campaign. The AI is based on your CPU speed without much of an upper limit (I believe that's still true). That means that you will naturally get lighting reflexes to shoot dots halfway across the map before they outsnipe you, and you'll marvel at your team of god-tier shooters who are complete idiots but have perfect aimbot aim. Enjoy a Tom Clancy level plot with multiple points that can devolve into nuclear war.

It is a fun experience if you can put up with the jank.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Since she didn't make the big list, I'll give a little shoutout to Strange Aeons too. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrq3JYirgV-BLluzTF6X_7A

She does a mix of bad book reviews, little dives into weird Internet stuff and dives into Tumblr to give old millennials like me a brief look at what the zoomers are getting up to. Her energy might be a little too high or ironic, but she's not shouty and probably one of the few that actually captures Jenny's tone of being really dry and ironic without being too mean or cynical.

Also maybe Movie Nights (Allison Pregler): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrq3JYirgV-BLluzTF6X_7A

I haven't watched as much of her since deep dives into Baywatch and Charmed didn't interest me as much, but her videos on a terrible celebrity ghost hunting game show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxA7ou3WDs and a shockingly bad Bigfoot documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i3jNneYwRI are close to Jenny's videos.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

sexpig by night posted:

Cyberpunk probably is the genre that suffers the most from having its aesthetic stripped and sanitized, because the commentary is so crucial to the genre as a whole. Even if you don't politically align with the idea that capitalism inherently creates evil you wind up still missing any kind of...bite...to the setting if it's just 'wow cool katanas and neon lights and time to JACK IN to my HOLONET'. Like, without the commentary it's just a generic action setting with at best the occasional cool computer sequence?

I feel like the relative success of the Shadowpunk RPGs, or at least it seemed like they went over pretty well, was due to this. They didn't go particularly hard on a revolutionary spirit, other than a few jabs at the nightmare of the megacorps and missions beating up the future KKK, but it still had a distinct story and setting because they went all on it, especially the relative hopeless of greater change.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
At least the Paranoia developers got that sweet Epic Games money. I was originally bummed that it was an exclusive until I saw Many a True Nerd preview it. It's a shame since the actual tone and writing seem to do a good job of adapting the game, but the actual game part seemed terrible.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Cool, cool. So again, Zack's fans, and the fans we're talking about in this moment, are harassing a Youtuber for making a video about good and bad ways to do r-rated superhero movies. All to defend the honor of a movie they haven't seen yet.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
No, quick, maybe Disenchantment can pull us out of this. I feel it's a fine show but also a sign that Groening isn't evolving, since it's already surpassed by competitors like Final Space.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Synder being a genius auteur who makes incisive, mature films absolutely skewering militarism and fascism is really funny next to the insistence that he's too loving stupid to understand The Fountainhead beyond a high school freshman level.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

CYBEReris posted:

what's the value in The Fountainhead to non-objectivists? i could see Greenspan third-way neoliberals liking it as well I guess since their ideology incorporates diluted free market objectivism

If you don't read too deeply into it, it's a book about a creative genius struggling to make a masterpiece against the system. That's pretty common, or at least a lot of goons have mentioned that being the takeaway if you read it in high school. But one would think you'd have a better understanding of it if you wanted to devote yourself to a film :shrug:.

Also, Atun-Shei just put out a neat, short look at The New World. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziV5DBf0oyY

Discussion includes old-style Making Of documentaries, pretentious critics and historical accuracy. I thought was kind of interesting.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

BigRed0427 posted:

I forget, was what we got always what was planned, or did Heath Ledger's death gently caress them that badly?

Is Screenrant an alright source? It matches my rough memory of rumors at the time at least. https://screenrant.com/joker-heath-ledger-dark-knight-rises-batman-movie/

Supposedly Joker was originally going to be in 2 movies. The Dark Knight would be roughly as it was, and then his trial would feature prominently in the 3rd film. This led to rumors about a script for a third movie that heavily features the trial. But apparently they had already decided to compress the story and there doesn't seem to be a big reason to think that Ledger's death changed much. It does feel like Joker is a better fit for stirring things up than Bane though. Like Joker in the courtroom driving a sick populism while Bane works a bigger angle makes more sense.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
^That's why they usually date other minor celebrities or people who aren't fans if they don't want drama.

It was just a tweet from Jenny at the time, but I liked her take to imagine the shitstorm if a popular singer had run a community for his fans to share nudes and then tried to write it off as "hey, I put 18+ only, how could I have known?" Like, it's probably not hard illegal but it's still super weird and creepy and would have been a big career hit. Just because the person is YouTube famous versus regular famous doesn't really change it.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Yeah, you measure the goodwill by how much someone paid for it. So if someone pays $2 million extra then there was $2 million of goodwill. Was there more and they got a good deal? Was there less and it was a bad deal? Who knows :). Economics! In fairness, the people worth their salt note that predictions are mostly worthless as hard numbers.

I've got a (worthless and mostly unused) Econ degree and the really bad thing is that so little of 100-level stuff is applicable beyond the barest bones. The next 3 years of it are all about understanding the billion ways that it doesn't work and then applying it to real-world stuff. Smarter people then me have raised the point that it's probably worse to teach 1 year and let people go than to teach none of it. Once you get into later level stuff it's a lot about allocating resources, sometimes some logistics stuff, etc. I had a genuinely interesting course about the Economics of Transportation and a lot of it was mapping out highway flows and discussing the problem of intersections and temporary rushes and the pros and cons of different policy options.

I'll have to save the video to listen to later. I do appreciate somebody talking a little theory. I feel slightly bad when Econ gets dismissed just because all of the public pundits talking about it suck or push dumb centrist or right-wing points.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
They were also everywhere and at lots of gift stores, kind of like Funko Pops now. I'm looking forward to it too. From Jenny's Twitter, she's also going to go into how massive the fade was and cover all the side markets, like clothes, that popped up.

I know that there are still aspects of this with toys and things like Funko Pops, but man, the 90s were really the era of companies just churning out collectibles to profit off of people who thought that their commemorative copy of Superman's death would be worth millions.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Terrible Opinions posted:

I just gotta say this right here from the beginning is an unsalvageably bad idea for a continuous story of big movies.

One of the stories that sticks out was how Johnson had to have JJ panic remake the ending shot of Force Awakens. The Luke reveal was originally going to have him meditating and twirling rocks around and Johnson had to jump in to point out that he was writing Luke as a disgruntled Jedi who'd given up the force. I don't know how you're supposed to really make a trilogy when the visions are that far apart. It was an interesting idea, but not a good one.

Also the funnier thing where they were so sure that Solo was going to be a big hit, and that they'd sell so many pairs of Han's iconic dice. that they bothered everyone to make sure to include them in pivotal shots.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
You'd be hard pressed to call the regressive Galactic Republic Senate system a representative democracy.

In my five-part series...

Since someone recommended Swell Entertainment before, she's got a kind of neat new video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8yBR-hnI6g

It's covering the David Dobrik $100K puzzle sweepstakes. I like hearing about things that blew up in a section of social media that are completely separate from me. It's basically someone just for real doing a Nathan for You-style hellish sweepstakes, as far as I can tell. Which is impressive in its hustle at least.

It also reminded me of an old video about the terrible Hareraiser sweepstakes puzzle video game and the Masquerade treasure hunt that preceded it. It's not much of a video, other than the slideshow visuals, but it's a nice lecture on a weird bit of history if you've got a half hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvi-fwrfIY

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Lore issues aside, Holdo's kamikaze run was really memorable at least and Johnson knew how to shoot some cool looking space fights. I just remember Rise of Skywalker's ending fight feeling so bland.

Vagabundo posted:

Well yes, a system that rewards gerrymandering and can see a head of state elected despite losing the popular vote by literal millions reeks of being a fundamentally broken system that is in dire need of an update.

Well that was supposed to be a Star Wars joke, but this is also true.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

McCloud posted:

This is a bit like saying trainspotting is a movie that glorifies drug abuse, or that Oliver Stones Wallstreet glorifies wall street corruption. Context obviously matters

At the same time, if most people walk away from your movie not understanding your vision then that's not a good sign for the movie. Funny thing about Wall Street, since I was thinking about it a few days ago. Someone in CD most have mentioned it.

I think it's a good example of the issue of portrayals. Gecko's Greed is Good speech is a legitimately positive portrayal. In that moment he is the model image of the good equity guy. He's stepping in to cut the rot out of a dying, bloated company so he can save it. And also he'll make him and other investors a bunch of cash for their "help." The back half of the movie is then about tearing down the myth, yadda, yadda yadda.

But you're still left with a lot of glorification of Wall Street and people walking out thinking that "Wow, it turned out that he was a bad guy. Too bad he wasn't one of the good guys like I thought. Oh well" and never going deeper. Most people just remember and repeat the interesting tidbits of the movie, so you have the Greed is Good speech rise out as the standout thing people remember.

And also Wall Street 2 kind of undercuts everything and makes you wonder if he intended any real critic from the start with, so...

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
It's going to be very Chicken or the Egg, but they were really big on the whole motif that caring about anything was just for dumb assholes trying to look superior and that the really cool thing to do was be aloof and nihilistic. It's feels like it was tired in with Chan/Anon culture.

Antisemitism is harder. I generally agree, philosophically, that a few dumb assholes missing the joke isn't their fault and that Cartman was written to be awful. But I also knew a whole lot of dumb rear end in a top hat kids in my high school who loved to scream "Jew" at people and who generally thought Cartman was awesome. When people insist that obviously Cartman was bad and no one liked him, I wonder how they managed to get that lucky with their classmates.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Yeah, it was just in some random interview, but I remember them saying that they basically just wanted to run as far away from the problematic elements of the character as possible. They thought they were clever going with Celtic but then regretted it when Asian fans mentioned that the whitewashing hurt too and they'd have rather just have the character de-racismed.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Also, it's not like it's new. I'm pretty sure I've heard Disney costume people say that the poor souls in the villain costumes get kicked in the ankles by kids who don't know better/are just little shits all the time.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Ghostlight posted:

their idea wasn't even that detailed, it was "let's make a successful game".

That article breaking down the failed development was wild for how often there was some element of "Well, we realized that there basically wasn't a game. So we stopped doing anything productive so that we could mock up a somewhat convincing fake demo to keep the suits off our backs for another few months while we tried to figure out the game."

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