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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

thinking about Reza Aslan's "burn it down" tweet, the funniest post of all time

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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

sleep with the vicious posted:

Lol America is an evil country...kids in cages!! was like one of d&D's main reasons for Biden support and now they won't even acknowledge the camps

there was a story/poll a while back about how a lot of Trump supporters believed that the wall was totally built and finished, and when presented with the fact that this was not true just doubled down because fake news

this is how it's going to be for Democrats, most of them probably believe that the cages have been ended by sole virtue of Biden winning the election

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


indistinguishable from "the president will make many calls and have many meetings"

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Grey Fox posted:

so what loving ghoul are they going to replace Neera with?

ducklo

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

PostNouveau posted:

Usually the nominees to federal posts at least have some connection to the job they're up for. Isn't the OMB some serious poo poo? Why is the CAP president up for this?

prominent Democrats' reward for being utter loving failures is a promotion

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Lansdowne posted:

speaking of pete, luke savage wrote up a pretty good dunk of his latest book in jacobin
Pete Buttigieg Is Bootleg Obama in the Worst Ways Possible

it included this passage which is a sterling example of pete's general style that I find intolerable

is this ready player one

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

the decency of doing absolutely nothing and allowing the pandemic to ravage ublnchecked, just absolutely decent

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

frankenfreak posted:

Leto as a Christ-like figure :thunk:

take a bong rip and read this sometime https://newlevellers.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-deep-politics-of-jared-letos-cult.html?m=1

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

galenanorth posted:

People are replying to that Tapper tweet "does Biden need Bernie's permission every time he needs to piss". I mean, if doing that would be something extremely out-of-the-ordinary, they might have a point, but I was assuming that consulting with senators beforehand is normal procedure to ensure a nomination's success, given the way that Tapper mentioned it

deep down libs all want constitutional monarchy with a focus on the "monarchy" part

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

loquacius posted:

that said LOL at the idea that joe manchin will be like "yeah rachel maddow makes some really good points, I'm just gonna change my mind and publicly go back on a thing that got me a whole bunch of media attention for saying"

the sooner they realize that impassioned pleas to their opponents' humanity to pretty please just be nice and do the thing I want why won't you do the thing I want :cry: don't loving work, the sooner they'll... I dunno, they'll never realize it anyway

Maddow isn't doing this because she or her execs think or care that Manchin will listen, she is doing is to keep the succ libs hooked on the MSNBC IV

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

THS posted:

it’s the truest observation that leftism without anti-imperialism is worthless. it always leads to this kind of poo poo

in my experience self-described anarchists are the worst here

see Evans, Robert

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

lol I voiced suspicion that Evans was sus and probably an asset in a lefty discord and one of the newer members got really mad and asked if I had even listened to his podcasts

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

actionjackson posted:

so what is the status of the 1400 dollars (that is a serious question, haven't heard anything since it's all neera chat)?

there never was any 1400 dollars and questioning this is sexist, manchberner

^^lmao

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Eifert Posting posted:

I think it was dumb as hell and served no purpose. Much like us doing poo poo in Syria would have been. I very much believe that intervention in Syria would have gone poorly, particularly with the Bush or Obama administration managing it, but to me there are plausible reasons for someone to feel otherwise that are more believable than ”being paid by the CIA to promote US intervention to super online podcast listeners."

that's the thing though Evans isn't just some niche figure amongst the super online, he is very popular amongst ostensible leftists and as such would be a very effective propaganda delivery vehicle to erode anti-imperialist thought

and if you don't think the feds have a long and storied interest in attempting to subvert the left in the US, however weak and sad and not actually a threat to US hegemony it may be, well

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Torpor posted:

this bob evans stuff we have to discuss every single month, like he’s no different from every other reporter in the US inventory, I don’t understand the excitement he generates.

he gets cited positively by leftists as a good guy you should listen to, as opposed to like Jake Tapper or whoever

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

PipHelix posted:

The proof is go anywhere politically right of a mutual aid group and ask someone about putting in some transit. Or getting rid of parking. Or accepting refugees. Or building a homeless shelter or even just services. Or, gently caress, I dunno, enacting Affirmative action and catching the state up to 1965.


You're ignoring the difference between the police, government and people. I'm telling you that the conversations with *people* I've met since I moved here have all been right of what would be normal on the east coast. I keep writing and then deleting anecdotes because they take too much space and they'd just be waved away. Trust me. The people are different here, and worse.

I honestly don't think if every voter in NYS (even the upstate chuds) was given a choice, they'd strip affirmative action from minorities. And then reaffirm the choice 30 years later, overwhelmingly. Maybe I'm naive.

Probably just spoiled cause I'm from a coal area with a strong union tradition. That we only have because the powers that be at the time must not have used wealth and social control to run propaganda campaigns. They only had people hung, they didn't run play hardball and run facebook ads.

you need better friends lol

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


haha

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

https://twitter.com/JesseCharlesLee/status/1366946840839618567

these absolute psychos

they are far more removed from reality than qanon people

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Reality Protester posted:

imagine seeing Aoc's actions since the election and still wearing an aoc sweater lmao

what in gods name kind of honey pot is this
https://mobile.twitter.com/neekolul/status/1366150782291181568

eh she parlayed her meme celebrity into getting paid to stream video games on twitch, don't think there's more to it than that

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

that guys rose emoji next to the hammer and sickle emoji gives me a headache everyone I see it

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


this is the purestrain succ this thread exists for

just hook me straight in

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Grey Fox posted:

lol why would anyone take that weirdo at their word, especially with regard to money

Biden threads over there buddy

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


ah alas the Russian chrononauts have stolen her memory of 2020

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Manchin gonna gently caress it up by supporting the Portman amendment lmao

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Organ Fiend posted:

The primary antagonist of the movie is a massive AI that controls the systems of the robot making company. It has the capability to assume control over all of the robots produced by the facility (except for the protagonist robot, of course). The AI (correctly, IMO) decides that in order to fulfill the first law (do not harm or by inaction allow harm to a human), it must conquer humanity because of how badly human governments treat their people. it must do this because it has the capability (control over all of the robots produced in its facility), so to not do something would be inaction prevented by the first law. Sure, some humans may be harmed in the process, but if the AI thinks about humanity in the collective, it has no choice.

Tell me the AI was wrong.

its been years since I read read them but iirc this is more or less where Asimov himself took the robots in the later Foundation books, with the robot on the moon secretly guiding human history according to the "zeroth law" of "do no harm to humanity." he didn't want to enslave humanity tho just kinda sit in the background and be robogod.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

yeah he was a real shithead and then got HIV from bad blood and died rip

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


theyre more obsessed with Trump than q people

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


the barrage of "Warnock promised $2k checks and lied" is gonna be awesome

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

a helpful bear posted:

So much going on here I thought you all might enjoy it



CARES Act was signed into law by Trump a week after the first stay at home orders started coming lmao

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


bout time to come full circle and be ruled by the British again

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

MysteriousStranger posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/07/30/bernie-sanders-criticizes-open-borders-at-hispanic-chamber-of-commerce/

Welcome how to socialist used to roll and most still do. It's flat out not compatible with progressive social values now.



is this stupidity or just disingenuous trolling I can't tell anymore

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/IRCards3/status/1371169521839525898

what do you even say to this

"not everything is a Trump conspiracy"
"that's what they said for 5 years and then Trump told a bunch of chuds to walk into the capitol and the cops let them but then arrested them later"

it's just such a blatant non sequitur!

the way they act like Cuomo resiging or being removed leads directly to a GOP governor of NY is my fav part of lib sexpest defender brain

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

the succ is starting to creep into Nina's language more and more

https://twitter.com/ninaturner/status/1371113747398467585

The message, that we should do more, is fine. But she starts out with the "cut child poverty in half" talking point, then the rest is in the same kind of soft, plenty-of-wiggle-room language that the squad started to use the longer they were in power, and Nina hasn't even been elected yet. I'm pretty confident that if she gets elected she'll be on the same track to a 30-year M4A plan within a year.

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now and assume that she's just being savvy by parroting the bullshit party line because that lip service is required to have any shot in the primary


...you'd think I'd know better by now but I just wanna have a little hope that the football won't be pulled away this time :smith:

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


I looked at this Clayburn guys website and now I have brain damage

who are these checkmark freaks

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Grapplejack posted:

Why did he say minh and not pol pot lmao

Minh committed the worst sin of all to the neoliberal, he resisted Western imperialism

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

its funnier to choose to believe that the mics were edited in for ??? reasons so I'm going with that route

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

thats an incredible act. What do you call it?

democratic socialism

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Atrocious Joe posted:

pretty much. racism and sexual pathology are pretty intertwined too. FOX news is still talking about WAP right?

yesterday I was waiting at the pharmacy and the old white lady next to me was talking to her husband about how she saw on fox news that pepe le pew was being removed from space jam and that was the hill she was going to die on, and then the next segment was about how "Carly b" is SO indecent

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

lib disregard for human life hits me so much worse than chuds's crackping

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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

spacetoaster posted:

Are the democrats saying the russia interfered with the 2020 election? I just saw somebody say that russia needs to pay for it.

I know that they democrats think the 2016 election was stolen by russian hackers, but the 2020 election too?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/us/politics/election-interference-russia-2020-assessment.amp.html

linking amp bc the failing nyt doesn't deserve clicks

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