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Raskolnikov38 posted:to be the slightest bit fair I assume their thinking was “fine if it wants to be a fyad thread it can be one” without stopping to consider how fyad might think of the subject this is really funny all round
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May 16, 2021 11:48
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:social democratic hitler is a good username could make them a mod
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May 16, 2021 14:50
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e-dt posted:this thread needs UN peacekeeping forces deployed to it, STAT holding out hope for Cuban military intervention instead
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May 17, 2021 10:07
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it's cool how the compromise was to de-admin cyrano but keep him as a mod because he's some kind of gun nazi whisperer who gives them an A+ if they can write essay-length justifications of their racial theories and this is good somehow
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May 17, 2021 12:35
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gradenko_2000 posted:finished with Beevor's book on the Spanish Civil War last week, started on Parenti's book on Julius Caesar yesterday: I liked Parenti's book on Caesar for the most part - especially when he's ripping the 'gentleman historians' to shreds - but I did think it was pretty sloppy of him to cite quotes from Mithridates and Calgacus as if they were genuine criticisms of Roman imperialism from its victims and not completely invented quotes from people who might be invented themselves (in the case of Calgacus) and whose words were Romans making political points from within the system, not without. I don't really understand why he presents it this way - that the criticism comes from Tacitus and not a Caledonian chief doesn't invalidate the criticism, and in fact adds weight to the idea that there was opposition to these policies within Rome. I'm not a classicist myself by any means but I spotted this and a couple other instances, like where he cites the words of a historian who lived centuries after Caesar to prove that Caesar said or did specific things that have no other source. I'm sure there are others throughout the book too, and it weakens his case even though it's a powerful argument he makes. He's really good when focusing on the actual material situation in Roman society and how the political factions faced each other though, I thought.
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May 17, 2021 14:20
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gradenko_2000 posted:Huh okay I didn't even know that Mithridates and Calgacus was fake news. My level of familiarity with Roman history is Dan Carlin's series on the Republic and Mike Duncan's History of Rome, so thank you for putting this into context. Yeah it's a great approach to it and vastly preferable to all the traditional history of Rome that takes slumlord nobles at their word about morality and politics. The takedown of Cato's biases is really fun.
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May 17, 2021 15:33
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i don't have the same visceral hatred of ferrinus that some people have butFerrinus posted:this actually typifies a particular left-wing deviation pretty well, specifically the anarcho-trot paranoia about Bureaucratism or whatever where the mere fact of someone doing administrative labor inevitably corrupts them beyond recognition and this is why it is simply too dangerous to ever have a state rather than a continuous global insurrection. people confuse the form for the class character come on this is nonsense, you can't apply State and Revolution to 'modding CSPAM'
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May 17, 2021 16:19
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Celot posted:Being totally hosed up by war and poverty in Russia and being totally hosed up by war and poverty in Iraq. lol.
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May 18, 2021 19:41
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if marxism is such a good framework for analysing history and society and the course of events then why were things different in two completely different societies with completely different histories at different times?
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May 18, 2021 19:46
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the fun thing is that i'm pretty sure marxist analysis of the middle east around 2011 did in fact predict the rising power of fundamentalist religious groups. i don't have any such predictions on hand but i distinctly remember reading them at the time edit: should clarify that I don't think this was some amazing feat of clairvoyance, they just looked at the previous thirty years of the West financing hardline fundamentalist Islamic groups and the situation that was being created in the destroyed puppet Iraq and saying 'yeah any idiot can see what's going to happen here' John Charity Spring has issued a correction as of 20:17 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 20:13
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Jon Joe posted:Wouldn't just about any analysis conclude "the currently ongoing rising power of fundamentalist religious groups in the middle east will continue"? yeah, hence my edit
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May 18, 2021 20:24
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Celot posted:The answer is actually no. The mass movement was communism, and they established a secular state. do you think ISIS is a mass movement
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May 18, 2021 20:37
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Jon Joe posted:here we can see the beginnings of religious fundamentalism in response to material conditions in this very thread lmao
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May 18, 2021 20:57
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Celot posted:If they weren’t a bunch of lunatics, they wouldn’t be Muslim fundamentalists. This is not a material condition, it is an internal mental state. ah, you're not fishmech, you're Sam Harris
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May 18, 2021 21:47
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lumpentroll posted:so are we all converting to islam now or what LF revivalism
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May 18, 2021 22:17
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Atrocious Joe posted:The 30 Years War could have been avoided if people were able to access therapy and get some SSRIs or ketamine. Men will literally form the Evangelical Union to fight the Catholic League and kill 8 million people instead of going to therapy
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May 18, 2021 22:39
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glad you're alright, sounds like you had a rough time of it
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May 21, 2021 22:21
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dead gay comedy forums posted:this is a very good take imo if i was to put it in a glib way (and i am going to) then my take is that China was almost wholly justified on the reasoning for the Sino-Soviet Split but then almost every foreign policy decision they made afterwards was loving terrible and destrucrive whether it was invading Vietnam or supporting Pinochet and the Mujahideen
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May 22, 2021 07:16
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poor main paineframe, posted his tier list of groups it's okay to murder and then died
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May 27, 2021 17:09
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Raskolnikov38 posted:he’s one star and 20 minutes from achieving “ace in a day” lmao
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May 27, 2021 21:06
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Populon posted:give him the fallen mods stars. you keep what you kill star silhouettes on his avatar
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May 27, 2021 21:21
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john lennon was not killed for being Too Radical lmao
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May 30, 2021 21:05
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i truly hate jacobin lol
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May 31, 2021 15:55
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:I thought they closed that place down it's called the CSPAM Chat Thread now
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May 31, 2021 16:26
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i don't think it was hypocritical of mao to want to combat the continuing destructive impact of the opium wars on china's populace
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Jun 1, 2021 00:09
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I remember liking this critique of Blood Lies by Roger Keeran (himself a marxist-leninist) but I haven't read it in a couple years so I guess it might not be as good as I remember. I still intend to read Keeran's book Socialism Betrayed about the overthrow of the USSR, it's meant to be a very good analysis and account of the reasons for decline and the forces at work in capitalist restoration
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Jun 3, 2021 17:20
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Raskolnikov38 posted:stalin's crime was stopping at the elbe god, what could have been
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Jun 4, 2021 00:38
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:read losurdo instead tho imo Losurdo is loving great, Liberalism: A Counter-History is one of the best books I've read
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Jun 4, 2021 08:59
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taliban mountain base cutaway diagram but with black hammer
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Jun 11, 2021 16:34
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"marxists ignore race and gender issues" is largely a dishonest angle of attack by liberals imo
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Jun 16, 2021 20:12
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exmarx posted:it's in his rapsheet. his other post in the "What do you want your last words to be?" thread is just as epic lmfao
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Jun 19, 2021 10:00
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Deified Data posted:Please don't tell me Mieville is a trot he's a big part of why I'm any kind of leftist today lol he's the trottiest trot ever to trot. was a member of the Socialist Worker's Party and iirc left them in 2013 due to the party's rape scandal stuff it's definitely visible in his books too. Iron Council is all about how the perfect revolution is one that never actually happens so it can't either fail or become corrupted over time, real trotskyist fantasy
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Jun 22, 2021 19:07
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:Mieville is still cool and a fun writer even if he's a trot, who care. he is a good writer for sure. got a signed copy of The Scar which I'm happy to have, I love that book. I'm just surprised anyone didn't know his specific leanings
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Jun 22, 2021 19:12
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fart simpson posted:whos nick land english theory guy who moved in the same circles as mark fisher but went extremely fascist
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Jun 23, 2021 15:46
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Office Pig posted:i was confusing him with max landis for a while there, hoooo weeee now that’s a mistake Nick Land's Bright would be even more racist
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Jun 23, 2021 16:07
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R. Mute posted:if you've ever organised anywhere near trots, you'd know you can't be in a big tent with them. just from a practical viewpoint. they're the cliché leftists - holier than thou, always have to get their way, constantly trying to enhance their own profile instead of empowering people, incessantly splitting, no plans to actually build power, being weird unwashed losers that put off the people they need to reach. and always with the newspapers this has also been my experience in the UK. the SWP especially made a name for themselves in trying to co-opt any movement or organising effort and then sabotaging it if they couldn't turn it into a front group. the others behave similarly. I became reasonably friendly with some International Marxist Tendency members who I met on a picket line but I didn't ever show interest in joining their group. one day i went to meet them for lunch and there was a guy there I didn't recognise - he'd travelled hundreds of miles from London, it turned out, and he grilled me about my political beliefs and how much Trotsky I'd read and I realised he'd specifically come to recruit me. he tried to get me to come to a Trotskyist Training Camp down in London (specifically described as a 'training camp' with no apparent irony) that very weekend, and when I said truthfully that I'd already got long-standing plans for that weekend he tried to convince me to abandon those plans to come to the Training Camp instead. I politely declined and he and the other IMT people promptly left and never spoke to me again. a lucky escape probably also every trot org in the UK has had some kind of sexual assault scandal but so have the anarchist orgs and the other communist orgs in the UK too. I don't think it's specific to the trotskyists
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Jun 23, 2021 21:14
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Larry Parrish posted:and also if the united States didn't do all kinds of poo poo to gently caress with them. or send marines to help the whites. or kept sending aid even after WW2. etc. the ones that I always think about are 'what if the US had agreed to allow a disarmed neutral Germany instead of splitting it' or 'what if the capitalist powers hadn't mounted a gigantic campaign of sabotage against East Germany after partition'
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Jun 25, 2021 09:50
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Maybe, maybe not. knowing our luck it would go Communist Poland > Germany invades in 1939 with the blessing of the western allies > genocidal hell war between the USSR and Germany with the US giving lend-lease to the Nazis instead, probably
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Jun 25, 2021 12:03
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tokin opposition posted:If you had a time machine that could send one (1) thing to Lenin/Stalin/Mao/Fidel/whoever what would you send and when? neon genesis evangelion dvd boxset, 1923 no dvd player or anything. it would be a spur for soviet technological development in order to experience it
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Jun 25, 2021 12:16
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Demon Semen posted:Juche: where Marxism/Leninism/Stalinism/Maoism are revisionist bourgeois ideologies. this more accurately describes Hoxhaist Albania imo
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Jun 25, 2021 17:16
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