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hello everyone i have determined that complex collapse of civilization is not happening, because i have not personally seen any evidence that this is occurring. none whatsoever. happy posting Hubbert has issued a correction as of 01:46 on Sep 17, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 17, 2021 01:35 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 20:01 |
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hey guys if you're going to call someone a Malthusian, you might as well know what you're talking about let's take a peek at Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change together quote:Chapter 8 Ecological Causes of Unwelcome Change Hubbert has issued a correction as of 03:32 on Sep 17, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 17, 2021 03:14 |
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Goddammit no no loving Malthusian chat it's page four of the thread omg please Rime posted:Welcome to the end of the world.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2021 03:50 |
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I truly wonder what 2051 will look like.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2021 04:28 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:start bombing factories
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2021 02:43 |
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if we're posting music, then may i recommend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi0q0O4V5Qs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mlUSI5-Jhk
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2021 16:21 |
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:
i remember when i was a little hubbert and I saw Warday on my dad's library shelf, and thought it would be a really cool war about soldiers going to war and stuff, so i started reading it boy howdy was i wrong. first chapter is literally the story of new york city in the immediate aftermath of a limited nuclear exchange, the subway tunnels flooding (with a lone spanish survivor screaming "AGUA" from a nearby station stairwell), there's a loving tsunami, and then there's a bit where one of the main characters chronicles the immediate aftermath at his kid's school as everyone is dying from radiation poisoning anyways, more fiction recommendations: The Water Knife is great Hubbert has issued a correction as of 00:45 on Sep 19, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 19, 2021 00:43 |
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one of the biggest crack ping moments i ever had in my entire life was discovering that the abrahamic genesis flood myth likely refers to the slow and painful sea level rise that occurred at the end of the ice age. even the sumerians had their own variant. it's one of those ancient myths that could be shared across multiple societies across the world independently of one another. the slow disappearing of land, forcing human populations to relocate and likely come into conflict with one another. also RIP all the megafauna, we probably sent them into extinction. probably one of the reasons why we had to go with horticulture and then agriculture in the end. i want to read against the grain too, that seems like a cool look at early statecraft https://noc.ac.uk/news/global-sea-level-rise-end-last-ice-age it was also the moment i realized that sea levels will continue to rise, unabated, no matter what we do today or tomorrow. they will continue to rise for thousands of years, just like 6000 years ago to 18000 years ago. there is genuinely nothing you can do but enjoy your life
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2021 03:11 |
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2021 03:13 |
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Paradoxish posted:We're going to get to live through the lovely and miserable decline while missing out on the catharsis of total collapse, or being too old to care. Worst of all worlds imo congratulations welcome to what societal collapse looks like
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2021 22:37 |
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Cascade Failure posted:I, as well, already regret bookmarking this thread. Watched the dome video and found myself just kinda going "Yep, sounds about right". thank you, this report owns
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 16:34 |
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silicone thrills posted:Love to watch the accelerating collapse im confused if this specific food supply chain is being disrupted, then i would simply just use another alternative food supply chain. this is how the free market works. as a consumer, i have the freedom and ability to pick whichever suppliers I want.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 16:38 |
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Evil_Greven posted:why go for something so exotic when the more familiar will do don't look back, or you'll turn into a pillar of salt
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 06:48 |
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Rime posted:I'm pretty sure I ate a probe back in 2018/19 for pointing out (fairly obviously) that the USA would have fully weaponized its southern border by 2050 and just gun down anyone crossing it. the united states will never join the ottawa treaty the wall will be landmines
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2021 03:58 |
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Look, you aren't allowed any more from your water ration today. I completely understand where you're coming from, but you only have 30L on your daily payment plan for the duration of Q3. No, sir, that's for Premium customers only. Let us know if we can do anything else for you today. Alright, I'm sorry that we couldn't help you, good night.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2021 03:25 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpTIrx6uAA The TV "journalists" literally called the climate activist a fascist in this video, because his overall protest movement was attempting to impose their values over society despite the rights of an individual. lol lmao
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2021 18:45 |
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now let's talk about hopeDerrick Jensen, Beyond Hope posted:
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2021 18:49 |
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Trabisnikof posted:please we've had a plan to do this for over 70 years now the best part is that the chinese actually did their own
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2021 21:53 |
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Epitope posted:Obama is a prime case of using hope as a tool to manipulate and subvert. Still, if there's such a thing as a good human endeavor (how about environmentalism?), seems hope can be employed there too. hope is the greatest evil lurking in pandora's box
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2021 21:53 |
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Doctor Jeep posted:
Pro-click longform read - ‘Green’ billionaires behind professional activist network that led suppression of ‘Planet of the Humans’ documentary - Max Blumenthal·September 7, 2020 Some lines I enjoyed from this article: quote:A few left-wing journalists tried to push back on the attacks as well. But in almost every case, they were spiked by editors at ostensibly progressive journals. Christopher Ketcham, author of “This Land: How Cowboys, Capitalism, and Corruption are Ruining the American West,” was among those unable to find a venue in which to defend the documentary. Hubbert has issued a correction as of 20:15 on Sep 25, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 25, 2021 20:13 |
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Basic Poster posted:Lol how long until the machine pays off its own embodied energy costs?
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2021 21:12 |
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Reverend Zero posted:yeah i got a carbon imagine having to cope with the complex collapse of industrial civilization and the creation of a new and polluted geological era without smoking weed at all
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 01:19 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:it would be Malthusian to suggest that number shouldn't go up correct i'm pretty sure everyone in this thread needs to be banned for Malthusian ecofascism now
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 22:20 |
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Rapacity posted:i hate that we'll take everything down with us. Life on Earth is resilient, and has so far survived all previous mass extinction events. We just won't be there to see what emerges next.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2021 01:51 |
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Lordshmee posted:you know I think about this thread an awful lot. if things really are as bad as predicted, then I know sitting on this 401k is a joke. I mean, I’ve always known it’s a coin flip whether or not it’s a “correction” year when you near retirement anyway, and that’s without the end of the loving world driving number down. I find that people "newer" to collapse sort of just ... give up. They no longer save for the future, or try to aspire for anything, with the knowledge they carry about the future. Remember that nothing is ever fully known about the future. Yes, we are on a trajectory towards decline and diminished quality of life, but doing everything you can to prepare for that future today (e.g. personal or professional investments) will be a blessing tomorrow. If everything turns out better than expected, you will be grateful to yourself. If it isn't, then at least you have a cushion in collapse. Civilization may have a cyclical pattern, yes, but collapse takes numerous decades - even centuries - to reach the nadir. All you can do is prepare for the long descent.
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2021 03:00 |
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also if this thread gets blown up because of QCS i will personally throttle the goon responsible
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2021 03:01 |
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God Hole posted:me, an urban planning master's student who is extremely passionate about the environment, about to graduate, and looking for literally any jobs that would allow me to direct my time & energy toward making the infrastructure of my city more resilient to a changing climate and increased frequency of extreme weather events (a city whose main freeway just turned into a canal for a week): "huh, these jobs don't seem to exist at all!" you just do what you can
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 02:47 |
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alright the thread went a little too far into the demented doom brain direction, how do we reverse this oh oh no its just like climate change, isn't it
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 03:26 |
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 05:11 |
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Homeless Friend posted:his gimmick is freaking out then remembering he lives comfortably and settling down until the next big freakout. oh, so he's a fellow thread poster?
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 21:39 |
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bowser posted:
really cool, thanks for sharing
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2021 00:43 |
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Cloks posted:I'm reading 2052 because it was recommended in this thread and there's a whole lot of "we didn't do that and things are worse now" since this was published in 2012 I personally enjoyed 2052 because of all of the short guest essays sprinkled throughout the book. Here's the 16 page summary for those who don't want to read it: http://www.2052.info/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/p121031-2052-5000-word-summary-Randers-memo-3.pdf
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2021 18:08 |
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A Terrible Person posted:I'm honestly looking forward to what sort of Great Wall 2.0/Hyper Dome China throws together over the next couple of decades. It's more like a series of grand canals.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2021 02:24 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:i haven't read the last 1500 posts not great, not terrible
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2021 20:23 |
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As I'm 100% certain that I would be banned for posting this elsewhere on SA, please see the following excerpt from Andreas Malm's How To Blow Up A Pipeline: Note that I am only providing this quote for the purpose of academic discussion and for no other reason: quote:Another few cases notwithstanding, the movement has by and large left property destruction an untried tactic. What if it became more than a one-off occurrence? What if hundreds or thousands followed in the footsteps of Reznicek and Montoya? On what grounds could that be cause for regret and condemnation? One might argue that it would open the dams of violence, or even ad lib terrorism. As for the former, Reznicek and Montoya hotly dispute that their actions fell into that category: ‘The oil being taken out of the ground and the machinery that does it and the infrastructure which supports it – this is violent’, Reznicek stated in an interview. ‘We never at all threatened human life. We’re acting in an effort to save human life, to save our planet, to save our resources. And nothing was ever done by Ruby or me outside of peaceful, deliberate and steady loving hands.’ In the Catholic Worker tradition, ennobled by the Berrigan brothers who used blood and napalm to destroy draft files during the Vietnam War and spoiled nuclear warheads during the late Cold War, righteous property destruction falls within the boundaries of non-violence.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2021 20:18 |
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guys can someone just tell me which app i can put on my phone to solve this climate change thing already
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2021 20:58 |
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Rime posted:If "go join other climate activists in your city/area/region, plug into the climate activist community and join with them" isn't satisfying then I don't know what else to offer. Activists are working in every space imaginable from direct action blocking O&G development projects to lobbying elected officials to be better on climate to actively working to replace electeds who are bad or lukewarm on climate. i asked for an app, rime, not actual effort!!!
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2021 21:17 |
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err posted:is this book worth getting? looks interesting It's very Marxist, short, and to the point - if you like what you've read, then I recommend it. I might host a book discussion on this soon.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2021 23:25 |
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Mike the TV posted:and yet posting is not carbon neutral, so we are moving up the timeline with every post CO2 ppm, DOW Jones, thread post count ... Number must go up
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2021 15:17 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 20:01 |
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Rime posted:Elegant, simple, extremely alarming. It's like a light-bulb was just switched on in my head. This is the bowtie on the argument that growth consumer capitalism was only possible in a similarly boundless world, and now that we've hit and grossly exceeded the resource & environmental bounds of our own world an economic phase-change being forced on us is unavoidable. http://www.energycrisis.com/hubbert/monetary.htm posted:"Two Intellectual Systems: Matter-energy and the Monetary Culture"
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2021 03:11 |