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Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Communist Thoughts posted:

start bombing factories

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Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Hbomberguy was wrong, there's more buyers than just Aquaman.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
What's the best way to destroy a golf course, hypothetically?

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Great they're getting the plastic out of the ocean garbage patch. But what's the plan with it next. Just ship it to the nearest land based dump?

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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It seems a bit more sinister than that.

They need the military to protect their own citizens and secure themselves when we reach climate collapse.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
Was very mild weather in Ireland for mid-November. Saw a few people wearing t-shirts today. i had no heating on and had to take off my sweater at home it was so warm.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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I hope the climates moments are pictures of wildfires, floods, and draughts.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Been thinking Kazinski wasn't wrong. You can try escape it by moving to the wilderness and living off the land. But eventually the government's running things are going to gently caress things up so bad your offgrid home becomes unlivable.

I've not read his manifesto but maybe theres something in there on how to deal with that contradiction.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Cold on a Cob posted:

he's also turbo-racist as hell, fyi

there are better people to read and talk about imo

I was being tongue in cheek. I know his class analysis is lacking, I did read something he said about effeminate socialists being as bad as the fascists. Did not know he was turbo-racist.

Other than that didn't know much about him, except he was an intelligent mathematician who got drugged by the CIA, tried live in a woods but kept get pushed away by logging camps and after the nth time he moved he decided to fight back by sending mailbombs.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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I just realised I never heard her speech in full.

The media really covered the "how dare you" part but the rest was conspicuously underreported. No wonder why given what she said.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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Tabletops posted:

someone’s RV business wasn’t working out financially

I did wonder how does an RV dealership go on fire during a flood.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Cold on a Cob posted:

i'm only hoarding sugar free red bull, which oddly enough has gone down in price lately

For some reason I can't find sugar free drinks in Ireland, or at least there's less of them. I assume the sugar alternative they use is in low supply due to brexit/logisitics problems.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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I too enjoy crispy rice that's been hit with half hour of radiation.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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oh awesome!, i don't have to worry about the end of the world now.

I'm going buy 3 rice cookers and a couple dozen plastic leftover containers to cook a months worth of rice with microplastics to celebrate.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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A quick google indicates they are narrow streams of moisture in the upper atmosphere capable of carrying 15 times the volume of the Mississippi before they make rainfall.

Massive invisible rivers in the sky bigger than anything on land.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Why does a dry state have so much agriculture that relies so heavily on water.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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I mean it's the less environmentally destructive methods of mining.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Mr. Lobe posted:

You wouldn't have time to complete more than a brief sentence of thought for most tall buildings with an accessible roof. Maybe 6 seconds at most.

Dunno, how tall is the Golden gate bridge. I saw documentary about jumpers off that and all the ones who survived said they had time to regret it and wished they could save themselves.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

It's always been my opinion that the best way to kill yourself is a disposable barbecue (after the flames have gone out) in a tent. Carbon monoxide is supposed to be like going to sleep.

That does seem the least painful way to do it. The guy from the band Boston did it that way, and there was a Japanese suicide manual which listed this as the easiest way to go.

Marenghi has issued a correction as of 20:15 on Dec 6, 2021

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
Worried about how bad things will get as civilization slowly collapses from climate change?

Don't be, warm autumns are delaying trees going dormant for winter. If you kept bonsai you know how important it is it to let them go dormant for winter. Many a beginner has killed theirs keeping it indoors all year round. They won't survive more than a few years without their natural dormancy period.

While you may have been worried how bad things would get as nations slipped into fascism as civilization slowly collapsed. Now you can rest in the knowledge things may fall apart over a much short time frame than we thought.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/fall-foliage-disrupted-by-climate-change-might-be-new-normal

quote:

“We ought to be concerned potentially, not just about timing of change for autumn, but whether or not it portends some forest collapse,” says George Mason University ecologist Rebecca Forkner. “While nobody wants to be the ‘sky is falling’ kind of person, we do understand these changes are the plants telling us something is not right.”

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Begun the Water War has

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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It's a shame we didn't have more leaders who cared about the environment. Might not be facing down climate extinction if more countries considered the impact of unending growth on the biosphere.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Xaris posted:

Tim Murphy is one of those peak oil blogger types who kinda vanished for awhile but has done some soul searching. he has a bit overly academia-steeped brain but his piece about climate change being sort of a distraction and that it's about consumption of earth resources and ignoring the consequences is right in context of global ecosystem collapse. https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2021/11/caught-up-in-complexity/

kinda goes on. i don't agree with some elements, more on the material side of things, but i think its interesting to read academia-brainwaves occasionally. kinda ties back into some things like Eye of the Needle and others is that like "renewables" is wrong because it's actually still depleting finite resources and dumping externalities out into the ecosystem which will, it has to, have consequences. now you can get more into sort of practice philosophical side is well yeah that's all well an good, but we're never going to give up opulent consuming so lets make it less bad and maybe 10 generations from now people will realize the err of their ways and live at an equilibrium of consumption = replenishment; but thats for them to fix, we just took the status quo and made things less bad while preserving it and our job is done. there is probably some merit in theory to that but also lol

He's not wrong. All these solutions to climate change, carbon capture facilities and mass car electrification etc are just going to push the problem from climate change to resource depletion.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1473968287046270983

All the wasted focus on carbon capture facilities. We could make a much greater impact on carbon in the atmosphere by seizing the wealth of billionaires.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Went to check in on the DD climate thread, they went quiet after COP but few posts since then.
What are they up to, oh cool they've discovered nature abhors a dome through the banner ad and seem to be realizing the scale of the problem.

Someone pointed them to this thread for more of that discussion and the mod wasn't happy.

CommieGIR posted:

Gonna ask nicely: Do not come into D&D and promote CSPAM threads, thanks.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Yeah he's disagreeing with the video because he denies the thesis that climate change is unstoppable, though mitigable, because the IPCC says if we cease all emissions right now we have a small chance of stopping all climate change problems.

And the mod CommieGir is arguing with him against a strawman they've constructed.

And that first guy is just an eco-fascist

Thug Lessons posted:

Okay. My perspective differs. I think the regular first world American life will be mostly unchanged in thirty years, and the aging doomers will still think the climate apocalypse is coming but we just had the timeline slightly off.

He's knows things will be bad worldwide but is confident as an American he doesn't have to worry about it.

Marenghi has issued a correction as of 14:20 on Dec 23, 2021

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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Do they not know billionaires?

Jerry Seinfeld and Jay Leno have massive underground garages packed with cars.

I was in college with a Saudi exchange student who imported brand new one of those dodge muscle cars. Costs a fortune to import and tax those inefficient American cars to Europe. When he finished his studies he just left it parked on the road until it got towed away.

Rich people do buy hundreds of cars and in some cases barely use them. The cost of emissions per mile driven must be through the roof for some rich people's cars considering the manufacturing emissions to make them.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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bedpan posted:

used tires can't be just tossed into a landfill like normal garbage because they will gradually make their way to the top and burst out of the ground. we have known this for decades and been trying to come up with a cheap way of disposing of used tires for the same amount of time. the current favorite dumping methods are to put the tires into huge piles and wait for a stray spark to start a tire fire or just throw the tires into an incinerator.

framing dumping tires into the ocean as "well intentioned" is really getting me mad

I know here farmers used to take tires for free, now I think they charge a small fee.
They use them to weigh down the black plastic on green cuttings to turn it into sileage. eventually the tires wear down and they replace them.

I think the modern method there's machinary to bale up cuttings in plastic wrap as it's harvested which turns to sileage in the bag. Then they burn the plastic sheeting after it's used.

Never really thought about it before but might be concerning that cow feed is produced in plastic and could be the introducing it to the food chain.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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petit choux posted:

I used to work in bike shops in the 90s. I watched the people's transportation turn into an elitist bullshit activity. The bike shop I drop in on now and then, the owner literally tells me that bikes that cost less than 1k don't exist. All so a bunch of bougie white guys can get their bouge on.

Noticed that myself when I was looking for a bike. Can buy a second hand car cheaper than a new bike.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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Speed control is great for lectures and instructional things online.

But what psycho digests dramatic scenes at double speed.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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Of course Krushchev cut all Stalin's eco plans.

Never trust a socialist who has a taste for fine, Italian suits.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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At least Stalin had a plan for reforesting and refused to capitulate to industry heads who wanted to run a tree credit scheme where they could leave forests in the far East and chop down everything in the western industrial centres.

Most protected ecological regions were undone at his death but a few managed to survive until Putin finally got rid of them a decade ago.

It wouldn't have undone all the emissions needed to modernize but who knows the permafrost might not be melting and releasing all that methane.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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https://www.thejournal.ie/hottest-autumn-on-record-in-ireland-5643674-Dec2021/

quote:

As the year comes to an end, it is clear we are also on track for another warm year with temperatures around 0.9°C above average. This will make 2021 the 11th consecutive year with temperatures above Ireland’s average

While future temperature projections vary depending on many factors, ‘all’ future projections suggest further warming. This warming, as well as associated defensive actions, is likely to affect everyone in some shape or form

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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With regards to carbon capture. I'm guessing that's brought forward a solution so we don't have to reduce emissions.

But do we even know how viable and safe it is to pump gigatonnes of carbon into the earth. And guarantee it won't seep back up like methane from melting permafrost

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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Tesla Cybertruck is definitely the one to buy.

No looters can carjack you with it's unbreakable windows, and you'll be able escape the cities in the Hyperloops that will no doubt cover the country by the time things collapse.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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Shima Honnou posted:

if its just starvation we will be fine as our fat reserves shall keep us alive far longer than the skinny

I looked this up recently to see if maintaining a fat reserve was better for surviving.

Turns out you'll starve just as fast unless ou can get vitamin B and protein, without vitamin B your body can't use your fat reserves, and without protein it will consume your muscle tissue.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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vyelkin posted:

I honestly had trouble following who did and didn't want one (because I am very stupid), so for the sake of my sanity just quote this post if you want a sixer with a bdelloid rotifer as the image

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Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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How a Married Undercover Cop Having Sex With Activists Killed a Climate Movement

https://www.vice.com/en/article/epxbpj/kate-wilson-mark-kennedy-undercover-cop-sex-with-activists

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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Rectal Death Adept posted:

I know all of the resources backing the governments and industries that demand to destroy humans and the planet for profit are aligned against activists but that article describes a cop that basically got bored of his marriage and spent 2 entire years living with a younger girl then claiming it was all undercover.

I have a feeling only certain kinds of married cops are going to try and break up attractive younger activist groups that way.

He slept with her to get deeper into the activist movement and give himself an air of legitimacy.

You got your timeline all hosed up. He went undercover in 2002, didn't move in with her into a houseshare with other activists until 2004, helped spy on their activities until 2009 when they all got busted trying shut down a coal power plant. Not long after that he got pulled from the assignment. Then he got found out cause his then girlfriend found his true identity as all his fake documents had been taken when the assignment was finished.

That's 7 years undercover and no one would have ever known had he not continued to date one of the activists.

Just think how many undercover ops we don't know about cause the undercover wasn't horny and dipping back into his role so he could have an extramarital affair.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
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It's not the heat that gets ya, it's the humidity.

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Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

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T-Paine posted:

Highly recommend reading Silent Spring for some revealing mid-20th century pesticide insanity

The amount of people who see communism as irredeemably ignorant and evil because of Mao's ill-fated pests campaign, who also fail to assign blame for the widespread use of industrial pesticides in the west.

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