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Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



thank you! for the new thread rime

jumping right to end to post about the climate episode of this year’s Adam Curtis is so fkin’ good :bong:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O3KqB-bZGc

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Jul 24, 2005

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actionjackson posted:

has anyone here besides me actually lived in a dome

I lived in a dome home for a couple years, all I can say is triangle windows bitch

my background view



I help build at least a dome/yurt/simple shelter a year for the last decade, been into Quonset huts a lot

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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CODChimera posted:

doomer music is one of the few good things about all of this. obviously other than the constantly laughing of course

the collapse music discord is pretty great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJIk31cqyi0

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a22APyrjAGM

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Alobar posted:

i'm super vibing with your avatar and username

i really dug the lorax when i was a kid, didn't think we'd actually be living it, tho, ya know?

didn't i just post a lorax song? i'm trippin

the song you posted rocks too btw :yaycat: :yeeclaw:

folks are crack pinging real hard and forget the struggle has always been real hard

line 3 protests up in Minnesota are still going, some of the kids are staying at camp miziki and they’re figuring it out and learning lots



https://abcnews.go.com/US/Politics/line-pipeline-resistance-continues-activists-biden-admin-shutdown/

quote:

Biden held a second global summit on climate change Friday and urged his counterparts to set aggressive benchmarks for curbing greenhouse gas emissions. Still, climate scientist Heidi Roop, a professor at the University of Minnesota, said it is hard to imagine the president meeting his own emission goals with a new pipeline like this bringing more oil to market.

“The new pipeline is designed to carry around 760,000 barrels of oil a day. If we look at the emissions associated with the combustion of that amount of fuel, it translates roughly into around 38 million, the equivalent of 38 million cars on the road. Every year, or around 45 coal-fired power plants burning,” Roop told ABC News.

“If we just consider the consequences to climate change investments in fossil fuel infrastructure that will increase our ability to consume fossil fuels, which are the root cause of our warming planet, sets us in the wrong direction,” Roop continued. “If we want to avoid the worst impacts of a changing climate. We have to start considering other tools in our toolbox that are going to support and sustain society.”

Fernandez said Enbridge wanted to be a part of transitioning to an energy future that relied more on cleaner energy but argued there was still a strong goal demand for oil.

Complicating the debate around for this pipeline in particular, is the exact type of Canadian oil that Line 3 is designed to transport: tar sands. A heavier oil that requires significant energy to both mine and refine, tar sands is considered one of the dirtiest options.

“So the question is, are we going to have the same demand for oil in 2015, if we have it 2021, and I don't think that's the case," Arvind Ravikumar, an expert in the climate impacts and energy infrastructure and associate professor at the University of Texas - Austin, told ABC News. "Therefore, when we are thinking about building these new pipelines, we have to think not just about the climate impacts of the oil that's going to flow in tomorrow, but about whether that infrastructure for fossil fuels is necessary for the next 30 years.”

and the security staff stuff that came out this week is mercenary as gently caress

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/17/enbridge-line-3-pipeline-amazon-security-exxon/

https://gizmodo.com/amazons-former-security-chief-is-now-guarding-the-line-1847724615

quote:

The man heading up security for the oil transport company Enbridge, which is currently facing down an Indigenuous-led protest movement against the Line 3 pipeline, formerly helped Exxon shield its operations from demonstrations in Nigeria and oversaw global security for Amazon.

The Intercept recently reported that Enbridge’s head of security, Troy Kirby, likely built a handbook of the kind of corporate counter-insurgency tactics experts say energy companies have applied towards environmental activists in recent years.

Kirby’s LinkedIn page shows that before coming to Enbridge in 2019, he spent three years as the head of Amazon’s corporate security. Documents dated to his final year there obtained by Vice show that under Kirby’s leadership, Amazon security monitored social media posts by union organizers and environmental activists. Vice reported that Amazon dispatched operatives from the infamous Pinkerton agency to investigate reports of employee misconduct at a facility in Poland.

For at least four years before his stint at Amazon, the Intercept reported, Kirby worked for Exxon as an adviser on “strategic security countermeasures” in Nigeria. The Intercept reported that the job responsibilities on Kirby’s LinkedIn page were deleted, but a previous version of his page showed they included managing crises including pirate attacks, employee kidnappings, and “community protests.” Accomplishments listed included “[Establishing] a Nigerian based security network with private and public sector security leaders” and “Oversight of host government security forces,” such as managing a “Security Maritime Operations center including a fleet of 17 military-grade security vessels” that protected Exxon’s offshore oil platforms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU2xKDcXn1g

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Are we at the "it's too late to do anything to stop it stage" or is there still hope?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OGMamnKQUA

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Erghh posted:

Leonard Cohen is awesome but preferred this version of the partisan, especially the yelling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_ZEovDDKk

for me, it’s maximalist like 80s hair metal or prog rock, and it’s not to my taste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt6oVamhtW4

edit: but I thought it was a great ending for the new wolfenstein games and forever shoot nazis

Unless has issued a correction as of 20:05 on Sep 23, 2021

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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finally got around to adding this to Plex and AW YEA PUT THAT BRUTAL CRITICISM IT IN MY VEINS

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Cold on a Cob posted:

from a review of that film

"despairing tone"
"significant progress"
"more numbing than illuminating"

paraphrased - 'it makes me feel bad so i'm going to give it a negative review'

lol. lmao.

lol

imma guess the reviewer isn’t part of any marginalized communities



this soundtrack is killerrrrrr, crimson king, and holy gently caress the raw footage of the animal fat biofuel plant just hurling full cattle and horse corpses into the giant grinder with Black Sabbath in the background was so fkin’ :black101:

e: oof, sad monkey :smith: good to know I still feel

e2: motherfucker I saw that Dave Smith Instruments special thanks, glad he could get a prophet outta this :unsmith:

Unless has issued a correction as of 22:44 on Sep 23, 2021

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



Hubbert posted:

hope is the greatest evil lurking in pandora's box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVs_f_R6ZxQ

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



my favorite art project that came out of ows, the anti-banality union, is finishing their next detournemont, EARTH II

https://vimeo.com/549735357

their other smashcuts on the desire for apocalypse in UNCLEAR HOLOCAUST, the secret deathwish behind law enforcement, POLICE MORTALITY, and the drain of constant crisis, STATE OF EMERGENCE, are all mega pro-clicks, and it’s crazy how much more relevant they’ve gotten in the 7+ years since they were made
https://vimeo.com/42724320
https://vimeo.com/60394827
https://vimeo.com/113643919

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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IAMKOREA posted:

yeah but bro what do the crickets eat? insects still have to obey the laws of thermodynamics and conservation of mass and no biological process is 100% efficient. if you're going to feed people insects, you still have to grow something to feed the insects. what i'm saying is that instead of growing food for crickets, and feeding it to the crickets, and then grinding the crickets up into disgusting cricket flour... just eat the loving cricket food.

because we haven’t genetically modified our metabolism and gi tracts to digest grasses and plant matter to synthesize the amino acids/protein crickets do en masse

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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IAMKOREA posted:

yeah but we have spent thousands of years genetically selecting for plants that create huge amounts of protein that we can digest. they're called beans. and if your climate change induced famine is so bad that you can't grow beans then you also aren't going to be growing crops for chicken feed (which is what they feed farmed crickets) either.

yeah but the conditions will change and it’s more likely the kinds of plants that will grow will be not-immediately nutritious natives

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vexsVB1JQqc

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Justin Tyme posted:

SPARC is going to come online in 2025 and we'll all feel pretty silly about climate change


Or it doesn't, and we'll be the last generation to enjoy the finer things in life. Pretty exciting, either way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mzSV3uYbyY

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Mr. Pool posted:

*Bernie Voice* I am once again asking if anyone wants to get into HAM radio with me. We gotta be able to lol, lmao after the internet goes down!! also if someone already knows whats up give me tips

I’m into it. Work both sides, analog/voice and digital/packet.

Low budget? Get a Xiegu G90 so you can talk to your computer. High budget? ICOM IC-705.

I’ve got a quad-band mobile transceiver that runs off solar mounted to my truck so I can park it on a mountain and talk to the rest of the valley and around the world via analog.

The Internet Radio Linking Project let’s me push-to-talk on local repeaters around the world if the satellite/internet is still up

http://irlp.net/

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Alobar posted:

ceschi was the last show i saw before the pandemic

cLOUDDEAD, Odd Nosdam, the whole anticon crew is still on heavy playback

good remix he dropped right when the pandemic was starting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtl5X8_53w

and then when I need to get the fight back in me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGC34QsyzAQ

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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God Hole posted:

me, an urban planning master's student who is extremely passionate about the environment, about to graduate, and looking for literally any jobs that would allow me to direct my time & energy toward making the infrastructure of my city more resilient to a changing climate and increased frequency of extreme weather events (a city whose main freeway just turned into a canal for a week): "huh, these jobs don't seem to exist at all!"

https://www.fema.gov/grants/mitigation/building-resilient-infrastructure-communities

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Irony.or.Death posted:

consider it your daily reminder that none of the problems discussed in this thread can be solved via the market; your best bet is probably unless' link, spending dozens or hundreds of hours assembling a grant proposal and team, then losing because your competition was better at lies and bribery than you are

good luck!

… or, y’know, reach out to the teams that have already succeeded in getting the grants and help them, thus ensuring greater success in leading those kinds of projects in the real world

college boy

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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God Hole posted:

i'm currently recovering from valley fever, a disease with an accelerating infection rate due to climate change. it sucked because the acute period of the illness had the exact same symptoms as covid, during a global outbreak of covid lol so for months my doctor was giving me all these antibiotics to clear up the "long-covid pneumonia" that was ruining my life, meanwhile this fungus is happily flourishing in my lungs.

as the world heats up, fungi are going to build up a tolerance to heat that may one day eclipse the average body temperature of land mammals. do not worry about the vibrancy of life, friends. fungus will thrive in the world we're leaving behind.

I remember staying with my lover at the renn faire in Arizona and being warned about this

they all live on-site, and maybe, maybe, someone has enough money to have an rv with A/C that has clean filters

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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GEMorris posted:

Phoebe Bridgers just posted a cover of That Funny Feeling and it is loving perfect.

https://youtu.be/uRl9lNFKMBI

the live version where people in the crowd scream and cheer during the “total dissociation, totally out your mind” is current peak lol lmao

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Dum Cumpster posted:

I think it was last year, here around Chicago we had half the trees with most of their green leaves maybe into November. Then there was a really sticky coating of snow that hit us and they all basically dumped their leaves below them in a sad pile overnight when the snow melted off the next day.

same thing happened up in the mountains down here in southern new mexico last October

the leaves hadn’t even died and left the trees yet, and we got a super wet snow that just dragged all the trees down low

woke up in the middle of the night in my warehouse to the loud BANG of a transformer exploding a couple blocks over, the carrier line snapping, and all my UPS’ fluctuating beeping on and off

during the day, I went to open the gate for a friend’s camper and I saw electricity arcing from one side to the other

learned how useful jumper cables are at reconnecting downed lines, I tell you what

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



AppleNippleBOB posted:

Not trying to derail the thread, but can you elaborate on this?

This sounds incredibly interesting and dangerous

cables snapped? cut the power down the line (like to your house) at the breaker, use a jumper cable to grip both sides of copper of the snapped cable. the spring teeth hold on to the cable well, and the gauge is thick enough to carry hundreds of amps

keep surrounding combustible materials to a minimum, don't touch any cables that are still carrying a current so you don't die, never use a metal ladder

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Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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that international forum on collapse at the University of Tasmania just started and the moderator did a good job reminding everyone that indigenous people have already been through it, and that we need to recognize the importance of our support networks, as this is brain-breaking stuff

the person who originated the green new deal is on the forum

I’m excited about the work of the guy from Just Collapse

quote:

Just Collapse is a platform dedicated to justice in the face of inevitable and irreversible global collapse.

Just Collapse advocates for a Planned Collapse to avert the worst outcomes that will follow an otherwise unplanned, reactive collapse.

Just Collapse recognises that there will be no justice in an unplanned collapse.

name dropping “overshoot” a lot

So far so good

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



lol the moderator is reminding everyone that maybe imperialism isn’t the answer, and the movement’s acknowledgment of forced population control in the 70s isn’t on the table

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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yoooooooo first PowerPoint is about how bullshit renewable energy is in solving the climate crisis

was a little rough seeing these eco nerd academics getting to grips with Zoom this far into the pandemic, but the message is solidddddddd

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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“massive population reduction”

“life after fossil fuels will look like life before fossil fuels, there are many, many, silver linings to this”

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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it’s totally rude to submit “lol, lmao” constantly in the q&a



presenter totally just namedropped bright green lies

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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yeah, these nerds are calling for a reduction of the human population down to 1 billion



e:

“it ain’t eco fascism if it’s applied universally”

“to us, it’s not a question of coercion, but what the just and humane methods are we can pursue to reduce the human population”

Unless has issued a correction as of 01:45 on Oct 20, 2021

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



Just Collapse I think is on the right track, and the academics have totally embraced the crack-ping

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



meh, I still find inner meaning in the fight that isn’t based on shaming or recruiting others, and I buy that there are significant differences in a planned contraction versus an unplanned contraction

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



speak the true true

ocean’s a multitude of drops, muthafuckaaaaaaaa

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Blowdryer posted:

was this recorded? would like to watch but it was a bad time for me

it was. whole thing was a zoom, and the event host was professor Kate booth, I sent her an email, will probably see them after this weekend

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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Blowdryer posted:

was this recorded? would like to watch but it was a bad time for me

Ornery and Hornery posted:

yo you got a link to the ppt or video?

e: saw your response. I’m eager to check out the link when you get it

Blowdryer posted:

can you share if you get access

It’s up on the Just Collapse blog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjilH04QXQ

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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man, the growing online collapse communities are pretty wild



lol at needing to label the lava

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-w-pdqwiBw

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhT0WrX72xM

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

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king crimson still winning for accuracy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OvW8Z7kiws

quote:

Cat's foot, iron claw
Neuro-surgeons scream for more
At paranoia's poison door
Twenty-first century schizoid man

Blood rack, barbed wire
Politicians' funeral pyre
Innocents raped with napalm fire
Twenty-first century schizoid man

Death seed, blind man's greed
Poets' starving, children bleed
Nothing he's got he really needs
Twenty-first century schizoid man

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



so I’m leading the charge to return our small remote community’s 40 year-old co-op back to its founding values after years of them steering toward commodity grocery store. the new GM gave his report with the most smug backhand because I also host our community’s farmers market and the drop in produce sales he’s attributing to our runaway success as their supply chain collapsed and folks started relying more on local ag, but packaged food sales, supplements, and the deli are all up, so plastic preserved food is booming

still can’t get avocados or bananas. I’m just about ready to give up on putting in the effort to save it, because 95% of their whole infrastructure is geared toward supply chain servicing. I give a poo poo about my neighbors and the work conditions, so imma stick it out, but they’re totally choosing the chuddiest construction company to give a million dollars to to expand to a new location and they have fuckin’ nothing that’s gonna make it resilient against the types of shortages we saw/are seeing

sucks to watch a community pillar succumb to the wackness

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Jul 24, 2005

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Brtk4aTvKA

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