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Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

yeah this is kind of a hosed up story but the Occam’s razor explanation is that Lauren and Liz are in love with each other and have been for a long time.

I mean, good luck to them, they both sound like lovely narcissists (although for Lauren at least part of that is grief). while it is always correct to be your authentic self and not remain in a sham marriage, there’s no rule that says that your authentic self is a good person to be around.

This story almost creeps me out because I absolutely knew a duo like this. They’d constantly triangulate each-other against new “enemies” so the whole dynamic is based on “us” vs “them.” The woman’s grief itself is understandable but the treatment of the husband in the story is so familiar; a total inability to process her own emotions so all the bad feelings get projected and blamed on an easy target.

The duo I knew is a straight woman and gay man and there’s nothing romantic between them, just a completely toxic emotional dependency.

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Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

carry on then posted:

It’s a legit concern, lots of stories of women who go down on a virgin dude only for him to instantly become clingy and codependent due to his lack of experience. It’s absolutely valid to want to avoid this and women should feel more comfortable requiring experience in their partners.

It’s also why men being virgins past their early 20s (excluding physical/health, queerness, or religious reasons) is a huge red flag because it means they missed out on some extremely crucial growth and experience that they really should have at that age.

I’m a woman and surprisingly ran into the gender flipped version of this (didn’t have sex til 22 or 23). In college when people heard I was a virgin they’d either get WAY too excited or would immediately back off (one person said they “didn’t want to ruin me”).

When I got intimate with my first and told him I was inexperienced he had a similar reaction (didn’t want to “ruin” me, that obviously I’d get super clingy, that he didn’t want to waste time) and I had to loving argue with him about it. And then was surprised that I wasn’t TOTALLY clueless. I’ve hosed myself before dude, calm down.

In retrospect early 20s is a totally normal time and everyone else was just being weird and lovely. I have a lot of empathy for people who’ve just been unlucky.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

carry on then posted:

There is though. Incels prove it. Obviously aside from those who were abused, or those who are dealing with gender or sexuality issues, or those who are physically disabled, among others, there is something very very deeply wrong with a man who isn't attractive enough to have had at least one partner by 20. Because that's always what it comes down to: you just aren't a good person. When the person who you have most in common with is Elliot-loving-Rodger, you don't really deserve love.

Y I K E S

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

I think what gets my goat is that wasn’t the couple in the original post having like… 2 hour “cuddle sessions”? It just sounds like the guy doesn’t know how to make a move (because he’s inexperienced) and she’s not initiating either (ETA: lol just checked and yeah, it’s a 20F and 22M in the story). Maybe if instead of posting on reddit and the two sat down and had an open and honest conversation about sex and expectations everything would be fine.

Honestly people are really loving bad about consent and discussing expectations about sex & physical contact. Pressuring and judging people to gently caress before they’re old enough to understand their own autonomy and personal boundaries sucks, and we should really be encouraging people to communicate better.

Crocobile fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Nov 20, 2021

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

teen witch posted:

The upside of it is is thrifting here is amazing. Yes please keep donating your grampy’s well taken care of mid century pieces and solid wood furniture older than my mom. I have some wacky things that I’d never find in the US here and getting it second hand is the cherry on top.

I moved to a place with a poo poo ton of antique malls/stores/collectors etc and have been replacing my lovely decade-old IKEA stuff with awesome 2nd hand vintage/antique furniture for a fraction of the price. It rules.

It blew my mind when I found out some older European furniture was built to be dismantled and reassembled?? My Victorian sofa breaks down into 5 pieces and is so loving easy to move.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

QueenAnnesDead posted:

My(F27) friend(F27) set me up on a date ... now I'm thinking about our friendship's sincerity

It’s depressing how little self esteem she has and I hope she gets therapy. Obviously her friend sucks; people who try to play matchmaker with their friends without looping them in are the worst. I used to be friends with someone who was very into “shipping” her friends and she’d constantly orchestrate ways to try to get people together (even after she was explicitly told to knock it off). She torched a few friendships that way.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Cowslips Warren posted:

AITA for asking my friend to not go to his painting class since my girlfriend would be modeling?

I've thought about doing nude modelling, but the fear of someone pointing me out in real life outside the studio, when I work a customer service job, is enough to hold me back. The artists can feel whatever pleasure they want, but I doubt most of them do. They aren't making porn, and gently caress, even the dude directing or recording the porn probably doesn't get sexually aroused by it much if at all. Work is work.

My first figure drawing class was at a small community college and during the break the model walked up to me and asked me if I was in her Junior High algebra class. She had been my JH math teacher and I was also in her homeroom.

In the same semester I drew 2 of my mom’s coworkers (male & female). All 3 of these models initiated the convo, it was definitely jarring for me but they didn’t seem to mind. They were all in their 50s & 60s so maybe that played into it.

I’ve done a lot of figure drawing and people are pretty respectful of the models. Even sessions with fetishy costumes are just like… a bunch of people silently sitting on drawing horses trying to make decent drawings.

I could certainly see the guy’s friends being creeps though, particularly if they aren’t art students. He’s still being insecure.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

A coworker made an insanely delicious vegan chocolate stout cake. He used coconut oil and avocado for the frosting? As far as I’m concerned it was made from magic and was very rich and moist.

Never tried a vegan cheesecake. IDK why some people get so hysterical about being subjected to vegan food though. Boyfriend sucks.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Soylent Pudding posted:

I've met folks who fall in two categories. The first is influencing as a side hustle in some niche hobby. They'd be doing the hobby anyway but the influencer dollars either offsets some of the costs or lets them do more or bigger projects than would be in the budget.

The ones I've met who make serious money are using influencing as covert advertising for some form of sex work.

I’ve met a “full-time” influencer who, in a very twee way, talked about growing up on a farm. Turned out her parents are California almond farmers.

There’s a lot of rich trust-fund kids in LA who use “professional influencer” as a mask for living off their parents’ money.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

quote:

AITA for trying to get my (40M) employee (24F) to do her job?

Goddamn I’ve had a couple supervisors (not fake self-appointed) like that and they’re the absolute worst. Simultaneously control freaks but also intensely passive aggressive and incapable of articulating what they want.

There’s also an annoying thing I’ve experienced as a woman in the workforce where guys will act like they’re taking you under their wing and give you no loving feedback, no direction, just condescending pats on the head whenever you ask for help or approval (which they seem to think is “supportive”?). Eventually, because they’ve repeatedly cut you off at the knees from learning or growing in the role and roadblocked you from more challenging assignments, they get frustrated by your “underperformance” and lash out.

I bet she’s doing training with the other guy because he’s actually willing to communicate with her and help grow her skills.

Crocobile fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Feb 6, 2022

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Party Ape posted:

Just remember that the other friend probably doesn't know that her favourite chicken casserole recipe was brute forced. In an alternate universe, this friend is posting on relationship advice saying "I cooked my family's chicken casserole the other day. The recipe was the last thing my blind and deaf grandmother was able to tap out in morse code with her cane before she was devoured by wolves. My friend who was in the house at the time must have gone through my recipe book and stolen the recipe because I heard she had a dinner party and made my grandmothers special chicken. She won't even apologise to me for violating my privacy let alone stealing my grandmothers cane chicken."

If she had gone through her friend’s stuff that would be a lovely invasion of privacy. Good thing she didn’t though! She just had an approximate idea of what went into an extremely basic bitch casserole (because she was “consensually” helping out in the kitchen at the time) and was able to make a similarish chicken casserole for…her own sister if I remember the post correctly?

She’s not selling the casserole ffs, she recreated it for her own family member. I’m HONESTLY getting the vibe you guys don’t cook; it’s really not that hard or uncommon to like… taste a new twist on a very basic dish and then try your own take on the thing you tasted. I ate some savory shortbread cookies made with thyme and olive oil at a coffee shop; didn’t realize what a monstrous crime I’d committed for trying to recreate them at home (because cooking is a fun hobby??)!

Also such a huge part of family recipes is the social context; meemaw’s special Christmas cookies don’t taste special because it’s a top secret recipe but because you love meemaw and she does this nice thing once a year.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Armacham posted:

There are good pranks but the person getting pranked has to find it funny too, imo

My favorite prank I’ve seen was in a wood shop where this guy’s coworkers stayed late the night before his birthday and had a “wrapping party” and wrapped EVERYTHING at his desk like a present, down to some loose individual screws and bolts he’d left on his desk. His desk was in a little alcove under the stairs so they blocked it off with more wrapping paper and put a big bow on it.

It was fun until he had to actually find stuff at his desk. Also awfully wasteful, but I’d take it over the stuff in these Reddit stories like poisoning people or telling them their mom died in a car crash.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Invisible Clergy posted:

Have we seen any gender flipped versions of this basic post archetype in this thread or threads past?

EDIT: beat me on the skincare one!

Here’s a couple classics:

quote:

AITA for telling my wife I wanted her to wear something less embarassing?

Sounds bad but let me explain:

Long story short, my wife is an ancient history buff. She speaks Classical Latin and can at least read some kinds of Greek. she REALLY knows this stuff. She is OBSESSED. Sometimes it’s kind of awkward because she will use weird latin no one knows and then explain it but it’s whatever. Obviously watching movies like 300 with her suuuucks. She has a big interest and it’s pretty cool overall.

But she’s taken it a little too far. She had me help her build this HUGE loom and she melted down lead shot to make weights for it. It’s gigantic and she wove huge sheets on it she wears as togas. Idr what she actually calls them they’re like dresses and she said they aren’t togas but idk. Stereotypical greek statue look. She wears them ALOT. At first it was just around the house but then she made a fancier one out of like silky stuff that she dyed, and she wears it out at least once a week. Yesterday we ran into some friends we haven’t seen since lockdown at a park. She was wearing the dress.They I invited us to go to a beer garden later. In the car, I told her we were going home before going out so she could change. She got really upset and told me she was really excited to talk to them about how we built a loom in quarantine and how she made it on her loom and dyed it “accurately.” I just don’t think it’s appropriate for her to wear what is basically a costume out with friends, and I don’t want her talking about it all night. She argued that lots of modern dresses have the same look and that with gold sandals and jewelry on she just looked dressing. I got pretty mad and told her I was embarrassed to be seen with her in a weird toga costume. She decided to stay home. So not changing clothes was more important to her than seeing our friends. She hasn’t talked to me since then, last night. Am I the rear end in a top hat?

TL;DR I didn’t want to go out with friends while my wife was dressed in essentially a costume she made.

quote:


AITA for not liking how my girlfriend dresses for work?

So I (43M) don’t think I’m in the wrong here, but my mother is very angry at me, and my best friend said I was a horrible person for saying what I did and I’d be lucky if my girlfriend didn’t put me out with the garbage, since I decided I wanted to act like trash.

My girlfriend (34F) is a preschool teacher and for some reason I can’t explain she dresses like Ms. Frizzle. Like a dress with the pattern of whatever they are studying. She makes a lot of them herself, now including matching masks. The kids love it, and the parents seem to think it’s great. I don’t like the amount of attention she gets honestly. I’d prefer if she came home and changed before running any errands.

On Friday, she helped my mom with something after work and she was still in her weird dress. I have told her before I don’t like when she dresses that way, but she tells me I don’t have to like it, but I have no right to tell her how to dress. I was upset she went out like that with my mother, and told her that my mom said she was embarrassed and to ask that she please not dress like that again if they’re going out. I was not expecting her to call my mom and apologize. When my mom asked what she meant, she told her what I said. My mom was furious, explained she doesn’t have a problem with how my girlfriend dresses and thinks it’s great she spends extra time doing things to engage her students. My mom then yelled at me for lying to my girlfriend and trying to throw her under the bus because I was being an insecure jerk.

My girlfriend and I got into a huge fight. I said she should be embarrassed to be seen in public like that. She said the only thing she was embarrassed by was me. She hasn’t spoken to me or done anything for me since. My friend said I was horrible and called me trash. I shouldn’t have lied, but I think my girlfriend should take what I think about her clothes into consideration and I’m not sorry for expecting her dress more appropriately in public. Am I really such an rear end in a top hat here?

EDIT: I’m sure you all will be pleased to know we broke up tonight. She said I’m to controlling and narrow minded so she broke up with me.

Wasn’t there also one with a girl who liked drinking out of mason jars and her boyfriend got rid of all of her glasses or something? Also the one where the guy threw out his indigenous girlfriend’s “smelly” leather pouch that had her umbilical cord and late dad’s cigarette butt in it.

Goddamn these stories occupy too much space in my brain.

Crocobile fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Mar 13, 2022

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Psychopaths have basically no neuroses and a very high self image and confidence so I’d say she’s the exception.

Fashion + economics make my mind immediately jump to any podcast I’ve heard where a former fashion industry person describes the sweatshops they employed. Like a Nike guy admitting the factory hired children but by-golly y’know those kids LOVE that job and they stood up and clapped for us when we toured! Just to shave off a fraction of a cent.

I’ve met a couple fashion industry people and they’d talk about terrible things with such callousness.

Sounds like Rachel would fit right in!

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I don't think your former housemate is the only one with hoarder tendencies, OP.

Also.... cook for your cat?! What?!

She might be preparing “raw” food. You grind and mix up a bunch of stuff at once and freeze it pre-portioned. It’s…idk, it’s a lot of work and pet food & nutrition is a contentious subject.

Myopically rich college roommates are certainly something. I heard multiple stories of rich kids throwing out and buying new dishware instead of cleaning their own loving plates.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Mx. posted:

Wife (23M) thinks I’m weird for My (25M) madturbation choices

Is madturbation angry masturbating?

Also is using the same dildo vaginally and rectally (presumably the wife was using it vaginally) hygienic? Neither the OP or the wife bring it up but I’d be pretty upset to find my bf put my dildo up his butt.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Invisible Clergy posted:


A few years ago, a friend housesat for me for a while. When I came back, for the next few weeks, I would find magic cards hidden in increasingly obscure places: inside a pillowcase, taped on the bottom of a drawer, in the phonebook, etc. I found those cards for years, until I moved out of the place. A really good, wholesome prank.

I had a friend who found this claw-machine supplier website where you could buy small plush toys in bulk. She bought 50 plush frogs for like .50¢/each. At first, when friends were over she’d ask them to grab something from a cabinet or w/e and you’d open it to an avalanche of frogs. Then she made a game of hiding frogs when she was at other peoples houses (like inside pillowcases, inside their freezer, under couch cushions). It was very silly.

She had an ongoing joke with some friends where they had a small ceramic pig they’d similarly hide in increasingly obscure places at each other’s’ homes. It was basically a game of hot potato.

I like those kind of pranks; they actually get funnier as they go along because the “victim” catches onto the pattern so the hiding spots have to get more obscure. And the retaliation is fun too.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

The trick is to buy a sock puppet and stuff the necklace or bracelet inside of it. Perfect prank.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

ScienceSeagull posted:

Haven't we had a couple of stories like that, where someone gets upset (possibly to the point of wanting to break up) over a lame gift and later discovers that the real gift is hidden inside? Maybe I'm thinking of the guy who gave people boxes full of barbed wire and broken glass and claimed there were gift cards inside.

I can’t find that one quickly but that was awful. OP had rheumatoid arthritis or similar disability and was the only one who got a boobytrapped gift (uncle had a long history of injuring people with his punishment-box presents). She threw it out without opening it and everyone flipped out on her.

There’s the classic parent Christmas prank of buying the hot-ticket item du jour and putting it in the box of a lovely item. The monstrous parents do the opposite and put a lovely gift in an exciting box, and then laugh/scream at the child’s heartbreak. I feel like there’ve been posts on the later.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Tall people don’t live as long.

Enjoy reaching that top shelf before it’s too late. :smug:

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

AITA for leaving a family party and telling bro and future SIL to not come to my home or work anymore?

quote:

Throwaway account

My brother "Jerry" (M21) and I (F26) were close for most of our lives. We’re two of nine adult children in a very dysfunctional family.

Jerry recently got engaged to "Jessica" (F20). I've tried to be welcoming since she started dating my brother, but she hasn't really reciprocated. Once COVID restrictions were lifted, I hosted a "getting to know you" party to introduce the women in the two families. I've also taken her family to lunch/dinner several times, and co-hosted a wedding shower for our extended family. I've been careful not to give my opinions on the wedding, and have tried to be supportive as Jerry’s and my parents are causing drama.

Two weeks ago, Jerry called me to say that they were inviting all of their other siblings to be in their wedding party, but they aren’t inviting me. He didn't say why. I told him that I wouldn't be making a fuss and it was their wedding to do with as they choose.

This weekend, Jessica texted me at the last minute to attend an invitation addressing party and to bring a dessert. I was upset at the request (it was a last-minute invitation to a pre-planned event, and they'd already excluded me from their wedding party), but I decided to make cupcakes and stop by briefly.

When I arrived, Jessica handed me a stack of announcements and gift registry cards for the people who aren’t invited to the wedding. She also gave me a list of names and addresses of these people. Lo and behold, my name is on the list of non-wedding invitees. I found the list of wedding invitees, and my name isn't on it so I'm truly not invited.

Here's where I might BTA:

1. After realizing I'm not invited to the wedding, I took my cupcakes and left the invitation-addressing party. I didn't make a scene, but I didn't tell Jessica or her mom (who was hosting) that I was leaving.

2. Jerry texted me about how rude I was to leave when his fiancee needed help, and said I was selfish, spoiled, and cheap. I replied that it was awful for them to demand my help for an event to which I was not invited, and that I wasn't going to be involved in any drama.

3. Jerry and Jessica went to my apartment yesterday while I was gone. They banged on the door and yelled in the windows, so my next-door neighbors (who don't know him called 911. J&J managed to talk their way out of trouble, but texted me angrily. I told them they caused a disturbance in my building and not to come over again.

4. J&J came to my work today, told the receptionist we had a family emergency, and made her pull me out of a meeting. Once it was clear that no one was dead or injured, I told them to leave and not come to my work again.

My entire family thinks I'm the rear end in a top hat. I think the bride and groom can determine who they want to invite to their wedding/bridal party, but they can’t demand unpaid time, labor, and hosting from non-invitees.

TL;DR: I'm not invited to my brother's wedding, but he and fiancée want my help with the events around it and made public scenes at my home/work.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Invisible Clergy posted:

This reminds me of a different post where OP's bf has been doing like the "tendies" "choccy miwk" "good boy points" style of speech indefinitely for months, in private to refer to sexual things ("will you touch my pee pee?") in public when they go out to double dates ("I hope they have chicky tendies!") and has recently escalated to throwing tantrums in the grocery store like a baby ("Waaa! Me want choccy ice cweam!") and she was at her wit's end (but obviously was too much of a doormat to just leave him. He revealed that his friend dared him to act like this for a year or something and he had to adhere to it or violate bro code. Does anyone have this post? It was very good and I'm having trouble finding it.

quote:

AITA for leaving my husband in the grocery store because he started acting like a toddler?

We all go through phases and pick up annoying habits, and sometimes we just need our loved ones to gently tell us if we've picked up a particularly egregious habit.

Sometime in the last year, my husband has picked up a habit where he talks like a baby. At first it was funny, but passed into embarrassing, cringeworthy behavior quickly.

Examples: doggo, pupper, woofer/subwoofer, pibble, hooty-boy, peepo, birb, meowmeow, sammy, sammiches, sammywhammy, chicky nuggies, chicky tendies, adding a toddleresque "lisp" to words, and the ones that really get gross are childish euphemisms for genitalia or sex.

I cannot emphasize this enough: it is not endearing or sexy to have my husband talk about my "boobies" and his "weiner" and "weenie" and "wee wee", "hoohas" and "bajingos" (Nostalgia for Scrubs be damned). We have not had sex for six months because he cannot stop talking about my "boobies" and it makes me sick.

Just before the pandemic hit, we were out at a restaurant with some friends, he actually ordered a "chicky sammy" like, said that exact phrase. Chicky. Sammy. Look, it's totally fine that he ordered the chicken sandwich. That's not the issue. Our friends noticed the baby talk, because he insisted on continuing the "joke" and even started talking with this god awful toddler... lilt? Accent?

After that, I just couldn't stomach the idea of going out with him to adult places. I'd go out to the brewery with friends, but god forbid he join me and say "Me wanty 'nother beer!" or something.

I don't know where it came from. I don't know why he's doing this. I finally hit my limit when we were grocery shopping and everything seemed normal and fine until he gasped like a kid, ran to the ice cream section and jumped up and down yelling "ICE CWEAM ICE CWEAM! I WANT CHOCWIT!"

I was *MORTIFIED*. People were staring at him and me. He kept going and kept saying "CAN WE GET POPSICOOOS?" and I just said "Either talk to me like an adult or I'm leaving."

He started saying OOOOOO YOU MUST BE FUN AT PARTIES and LIGHTEN UP, WILL YOU? And poo poo like that. I just said gently caress it, and left the store, leaving him to walk home (like a mile, it was fine) because I couldn't even look at him.

Since then, things have been very tense, and he keeps telling me that he wants an apology for embarrassing him by leaving him in the store. I told him that people don't get to demand apologies, if someone wants to apologize, it's up to them, and I am absolutely not going to apologize for saving myself the embarrassment of a 35 year old man with a mortgage and retirement account asking for "CHOCWIT ICE CWEAM."

He got his loving Mom involved, no joke. She keeps telling me it's just a phase and that he's probably bored and I should be happy this is his midlife crisis, rather than him loving 19 year olds at the local bar.

I'm going crazy. AITA? Do I really just need to let my husband continuously embarrass me like this?

Edit: Sorry, there was only so much space. I *have* talked to him. Multiple times. Especially about the sexual comments. I've made it extremely, abundantly clear that him using terms like "boobies" and "wee wee" are absolutely *repulsive* to me, among other things he says.

INFO: Does he have a job? Yes, and he acts completely normal as far as I know. He worked from home for a while during lockdown, and I never heard him talk like this to anyone he worked with.

Does he do it with friends? Sometimes, and it's generally meant to annoy them or gross them out, but he stops. He has friends where they think its "cute" to embarrass each other.

Is this a kink/fetish?: If so, I'm absolutely done. (Edited because it was offensive)

Has he seen a doctor?: No, but I've asked him if he needed to talk to someone because he was acting strange, and he accused me of being stuck up and judgmental. Given that he doesn't act like this with his coworkers, or his family, and only jokes around with his friends, I'm willing to bet that this is an indication that he's trying to force this fetish on me nonconsensually, or trying to get me to leave.

Is it a tumor?: I don't know. Like I said above, I asked him if he needed to see someone. I can't force him (even if I want to, just find out if there's any way we can salvage this), but after this post closes I will try to get him to. Maybe his sister can encourage him, even though he acts completely normal around them.

Does he have childhood trauma?: As far as I know, and I'm relatively close to his family and would likely know, the most traumatic thing he had happen was a minor car accident when he was around 13 years old. No injuries, no death, etc. He hasn't been in a car accident in the past two years or anything like that, and I haven't, and AFAIK no one else in his family has been, etc.

I want to send you a chat instead of my comment getting lost: Please don't. I've had a number of people repost this to make fun of me because I didn't respond the way they wanted, etc. Just comment, I can at least to respond to those and help others get an idea of what's going on.


quote:

Update to my husband's baby talking.

Hi all, here's the original post. The AITA mods declined to allow me to post the update because I do not have the videos described below.

Well, here I am with the update. I talked to my husband after doing some soul searching. There was no tumor, no kink, no childhood trauma. I asked him first if he understands why I am upset, and to please, please clarify if he was doing this on purpose or if we needed to seek medical intervention.

He didn't want to tell me at first and I got worried. He eventually caved when I suggested we look for a doctor because of how worried I am.

It was a bet with one of his friends that started as them trying to embarrass each other in public. He bet my husband that he couldn’t keep it up for the whole year. The only “off-limits” part was at work, because he couldn’t jeopardize his career.

No, no. He decided to jeopardize his marriage instead. For what prize? What was he going to win? A signed baseball. A. BASEBALL.

I thought he was still joking. No. He was dead serious.

How was the friend verifying? My husband would share little videos he took here and there of him upsetting me with the baby talk (including times he tried to initiate sex by whispering this baby talk in my ear -- I wasn’t in any state of undress). And by seeing us in public… like at the brewery. He got cross with me in the grocery store because I interrupted the recording and almost "blew the whole operation."

He wasn’t remorseful or apologetic. He thought we were both “in” on this little joke and that I’d find it hysterical. I asked him, did he understand we haven’t had sex in months? No no it didn’t matter, it was all worth it to him. He kept saying “You just don’t get it, it’s not just a baseball.”

I told him the joke was over, it was time to stop for good, but that I was willing to move on with him. I could forgive him. No. He wanted to keep going. There are only two months left in the bet so he's "so close." He said "We can have sex if you want, we'll just pretend XYZ" and I was just like... why does thinking about your friend even factor into this? What's wrong with you!? You never had to do this and ruin our intimate moments! But I just didn't get it, he had to be "in character" all the time.

After a lot of arguing and tears, I left him. I’m heading up to Colorado to be with my family through Christmas, and then I’m going to move in with my sister for a little while to figure out next steps. I hope it was worth it.

FOR THE PEOPLE ON r/AMITHEANGEL DOUBTING THAT THE MODS SPECIFICALLY DENIED ME THE UPDATE BECAUSE THEY DEMANDED THE VIDEOS, HERE'S YOUR loving PROOF. Do you all feel like big toughies now, /u/otterun\*\*,\*\* /u/uni-applicant\*\*, etc?\*\*

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I was told that their decision was final, and then someone says, not to me, but to someone completely different, that I could have posted screenshots with my sister. Oh, thanks for that, assholes.

Edited to fix the formatting. Sounds like a real special baseball.

Crocobile fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Mar 18, 2022

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Hispanic! At The Disco posted:

I'm a little surprised that OP could say these two things back to back and not realize how closely related they are.

Speaking as someone who was a very quiet, polite and “mature” little girl, I’m not surprised at all. :smith:

You make a good point but most people only see what they want to see, and they don’t want to see red flags for trauma and abuse.

OP still doesn’t even register the option to go no contact on her awful family.

Hot off the presses: someone who doesn’t understand cats.

AITA for confronting my friend's unsanitary behavior regarding her cats?

quote:


Throwaway, I don't want my family to see this.

Me (16F) and my best friend (also 16F) have known each other since 3rd grade and we love each other to the core. We have been through thick and thin, and I just want the best for her.

About 2 years ago she convinced her parents to finally get a pet, and she didn't get 1, but 2 kittens. I was a little bothered since I expressed my dislike for cats throughout the entire time we knew each other, but whatever. Anyway, we haven't really been able to visit each other from 2020-2021 for reasons that I can't mention due to this subreddit's \*14th rule, but when I finally visited her 3 days ago, I saw how she acts regarding her two cats:

1. Whenever she washes the cats' bowls, she washes them in the kitchen sink, the same place where her family puts THEIR dishes.
2. She doesn't give her cats baths, even though they are indoor-outdoor cats.
3. She lets the cats sit and sleep on the couches AND kitchen chairs.
4. She actually KISSES her cats.

The first things I noticed were 2 and 3, and I've expressed how they make me uncomfortable, and how it might make other guest uncomfortable in their house. She shrugged it off, saying that she doesn't give her cats baths because they bathe themselves, and she doesn't see an issue with where the cats sit as long as it wasn't on any tables where they eat. I cringed but I dropped it. Then later, I saw her kiss her cat, and I reasonably said "gross!", but she glared at me saying she didn't know what the big deal was, she only kissed him on the forehead, not the lips; to which I said that is still very gross.

The only time I actually got angry was when I saw her wash her cats' bowls in the kitchen sink, when I look at her surprised, and asked her if she knew what the hell she was doing. She looked puzzled and said that she was washing her cats' bowls, and I just said, no, no, you CANNOT do that, this is very much not okay. The plate that I ate pizza on earlier literally came into contact with cat spit. She gave excuses, like how there weren't any other dishes in the sink at the time, she never puts the cats' bowls in the dishwasher itself, she always cleans the sink thoroughly afterward, but I was not having this. I told her that no matter what, this wasn't okay at all, but she refused to listen to me, saying that if I didn't like it, I could bring my own paper plates here to eat off of, and I'm like.....why tf would I BUY paper plates just to not get sick with some disease her cats carried when she could easily just not do all this gross stuff? Anyway, she went on this rant all of this stuff was her business and that this shouldn't concern it, and I told her that if I wake up tomorrow morning with some sickness, I will 100% know it came from her cats, and then I left.

Most of our friends are saying I'm the AH, but I now idk anymore. Am I the rear end in a top hat?

EDIT: I just noticed their username is “PetRealist” :allears:

Crocobile fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Mar 18, 2022

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Baronjutter posted:

I just wanted to say that I recently saw your avatar on a rusty old shipping container that's been converted into a shed at garden furniture store.


The MOL croc logo is one of life’s simple pleasures; my day’s a little brighter after spotting that wide-eyed croc with a sailor tattoo out in the wild.

After 16 years of the stupid newbie avatar it was either that or Gena the Crocodile.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Mx. posted:

My(28m) sister(30f) asked me to keep my same sex relationship DL at her wedding and to not tell our parents till after

There was an update to this:

quote:

EDIT, We are telling my parents tomorrow night at dinner as we had planned for over two weeks now. It's the first night that worked for the four of us to meet up. I am not going to her wedding in 3 weeks and will probably do something that day. Most likely with my cousin who was told to hide his sexuality and his parents my aunt and uncle(dad's brother) as they aren't attending either for the same reason. I'm also most likely going to pull my financial support as well because I refuse to condone her fiancé's blatant homophobia.
More info in the comments:

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Commenter: It's entirely possible you won't be there for Christmases, or Thanksgivings, or for their children's first birthday parties,
etc. You won't be in their lives

OP: I get the distinct impression from her messages to myself and our cousin that going forward would be exclusively pretending to be straight around her husband something I have zero interest in doing.

I will not ever do that to my boyfriend, he has stood at my side with unwavering support through the worst moments of my life so I will never reduce him or hide.

Commenter: But if you don't go to your sister's wedding, that's going to cause a breach in the family.

OP: Thats already happening by her choices and actions, our cousin is not going nor are his parents(his dad is the younger brother to our dad). She literally sent him a list of "Don'ts" consisting of don't introduce him as a boyfriend just say friend, don't touch, don't hold hands, don't kiss, don't hug, don't dance together etc.

Based on my exchange with her she's not even concerned with his bigotry but how our parents will respond to it aka not pay for most of a wedding to a bigot.
So sister is marrying a bigot and is trying to force family to hide their identity to appease said bigot. She doesn’t want her brother to come out because she’s afraid her parents (who are paying for half the wedding) won’t want to pay for her to marry a bigot.

quote:

AITA for asking my brother to come out as straight to attend my wedding after he asked me to come out as gay to attend his?
WRT this story, the guy had been with his boyfriend for 2 years, was out on Facebook/social media, etc. The brother felt that wasn’t “out” enough and threatened to exclude him from the wedding if he didn’t DIRECTLY call up extended family one-by-one to tell them he was gay. I hope he sticks to his guns. The brother loving sucks.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

There was an episode of Marie Kondo’s show with a sneaker head husband with a 150+ shoe collection. He had some that were falling apart in the boxes that had never been worn.

The materials just aren’t made to last that long.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Boba Pearl posted:

As someone who does digital art, I believe everyone who has commentary on "style" and which "styles" are bad or good or preferred would please just stop talking. It's an exhausting conversation, and like, unless you're actually trying to emulate something you enjoy from it you're just going to come off like an rear end in a top hat. It's like the CalArts thing, where people are just spouting off poo poo they don't know.

I love this. I went to Calarts and the first time I heard of “Calarts style” someone was referencing Steven Universe. Sugar went to SVA and her drawings are literally nothing like Pen Ward’s or J. G.’s, like I literally have no idea what they were saying. Maybe like a Cartoon Network house style?? Non-artist people are really loving weird about animation.

Someone once super confidently argued with me that the stopmotion Frankinweenie movie “was definitely drawings.” I think the fact that it’s black & white tripped them up? There was literally nothing I could say to convince them otherwise.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

mediaphage posted:

that girl was hosed up. i roomed for a while with a dude whos fiance would out of the blue talk about how she wanted us to gently caress, it was very uncomfortable.

she was sexually abusive in a lot of ways though

I had a roommate in college who tried to ship me and another female friend for… nearly 2 years? As soon as I figured out what she was doing I clearly and directly told her I wasn’t really interested in women, this girl might be cool to get to know as a friend but nothing more than that, also btw I have a huge crush on this male friend if you must play matchmaker.

Over a year in I discovered she was going behind my back and telling every mutual friend we (me and female friend) were actually madly in love with eachother. I had to sit people down one-by-one and explain that my roommate was insane and repeatedly continued this behavior after I’d directly asked her to stop. And that I’d had a long-standing crush on a male friend that I’d confided to said roommate.

This roommate had been diagnosed with borderline by 2 therapists within 2 months of my living with her. Had no idea what bpd was until I learned the hard way!

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Brawnfire posted:

Judging from some of these stories, moms wrap their pads in fifty layers of toilet paper, put the parcel at the very bottom of the rubbish bin, then immure that inside a wall of a tower built on an asteroid whose orbit has been directed to plunge into the sun. And if you don't do that, you're a disgusting humiliation masquerading in women's skin.

When I had my period as a teen my mom kept pulling me aside and telling me I really should be wrapping my pads/feminine hygiene products in toilet paper before sticking them in the trash. This baffled me, because I already was wrapping pads & tampons in multiple layers of toilet paper. No amount was enough. Years later I realized she was telling me to wrap the loving PACKAGING in toilet paper.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

pentyne posted:

I think it's good to have a constant awareness that some people are posting the most one sided poo poo imaginable and seem genuinely confused if they are behaving in an acceptable manner because being in relationships can wildly gently caress with your perception of what is and is not okay, much less taking a river of abuse and lovely treatment because you think it's normal.

Dysfunctional families are a mess on its own because you start getting into the low-key abuse, capital D-decorum arguments, and the insistence that family is more important then literally anything at the base level before outsiders get pulled into it.

This thread alone has issues with people pulling the decorum card for some heinous poo poo and taking the tone that being rude in any capacity makes you equally guilty when standing up for yourself.

The reality is that looking from outside in it's extremely easy to go "lol gently caress no who would tolerate that?" but there's no shortage of factors that go into people staying and taking lovely treatment then really worried they went too far the one time they push back. Not even from the obvious cases of abuse where the OP is conditioned to accept it and seriously needs therapy, but from something as blatant as a partner who makes frequent disparaging remarks about a beloved pet.

The sane observer would go "that person is trash, leave them" but when you are in the middle of it you think maybe there's a compromise or solution where you don't have to break up.

I find the way peoples’ friends/family react to drama really enlightening too. Like it’s rad when someone St Pete’s out of a bad situation but some peoples friends & family jump down their throat the second they show the hint of a backbone.

Obviously the solution is to dump the family and get new friends, but that can feel really extreme and scary (especially when it feels like you’re the problem person). I really love reading updates with happy endings.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Ignis posted:

Possibly far enough

:pwn:
I’d assumed this was a weird troll but their explanation is so stupid and gross it might be true
:barf:

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Drunk Nerds posted:

I'm a hyper-social and one of the things we excel at is reading attitude and body language.

"OH she didn't recognize my daughter's boundaries" is not something one can blame on some being "social" dealing with someone who is an introvert.

If I knock on someone's door and they answer it reluctantly I drat well can tell they are uncomfortable before they even start speaking and won't do it again

Suze sounds a lot like my mom. My mom probably has ADHD and is a huge talker, which goes into hyperdrive when she’s anxious, AND has zero social awareness or basic comprehension. My mom constantly walks through public doorways and just stops to chat while blocking whoever’s behind her. And no amount of physically pulling her out of the way and explaining why people are pissed at her has changed a thing, the response is always “how was I supposed to know?” Same knocking and bursting in, walking in on me in shower, just total obliviousness to her surroundings. Like a total lack of object permanence when it comes to other people.

Does anyone remember that post from a husband talking about how his wife who never shuts up? I remember a part where she’s asking about an actress in some sitcom in the middle of sex.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

I just finished catching up on the last thread so I can’t remember if it was here or there that folks were talking about the phenomenon where a lovely husband projects all his inadequacies onto his wife and then flips out when she corrects him.

AITA for embarassing my husband?

quote:

so I (32f) and my husband (35m) have been together for eight years, married for six. My husband has always talked about having kids. We decided we were ready last year.

After months of stress and no results, we went to a doctor and found out my husband is infertile. He's always deeply wanted to be a father, so this was a big deal to him. We took a few months to process - and he grieved the loss, understandably so.

To my surprise, he suggested we go to a sperm bank. I was a little unsure if trying so soon would be a good idea, but he insisted that neither of us are getting younger - and he was completely okay with things. He's always been pretty blunt with his feelings, good or bad, so I thought it was alright. At first, it was.

Then we started looking through the book at the descriptions of the donors, and all of a sudden my husband's attitude changed. He demanded to see some samples of sperm from shorter men, because "it's a man thing" and he apparently wouldn't be able to love "someone else's son" that's taller than him, living in “his” house. I stopped the appointment, and we got into a terrible fight on the way home.

He apologized saying he was just emotional realizing it wouldn't really be his son. That the book made it seem real. We agreed to tentatively start the process again - but throughout the week he made comments about how "I might as well just cheat on him" and snide remarks about how my boss would be happy to "put a baby in me" if I asked. He even got jealous of my BROTHER IN LAW, and made a very rude comment to him and my sister about how we could swap for a night and "all get what we wanted ''. I shut the entire thing down after that, saying I didn't want to have kids with him when he was acting like this, maybe never after that.

With obligations to visit his family for a birthday dinner, we did. It was an alright, if slightly cold evening, until his mother asked me to get him and a few others back inside. I wasn't surprised to find them complaining about me, but the subject matter shocked me. He'd told them our recent marital problems were because I was infertile, due to my "old age". I listened as he told his brother, on and on about how he "just wasn't sure if I was worth the effort" and "maybe he should try to find someone younger while he still could." They joked about the women he could be sleeping with. It was crass, insulting and deeply embarrassing. It also wasn't true. I was livid.

I went back inside and grabbed the car keys, and when asked why I was crying, I told everyone in the room, all adults, the truth. I left him there and ignored his calls. When he finally came home, we had the biggest argument of our lives about how I shared such a big insecurity and shamed him to his family. That his mother cried. I'm currently staying with my sister, and I think our marriage may be irreparable.

He says I humiliated him, and I know that I did. But he was perfectly fine lying to humiliate me and claiming he wanted to leave me. AITA?

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Sorry to double post but this one’s kinda fun!

AITA for refusing to cater to my girlfriend’s food preferences?

quote:

I (28M) have been with my lovely gf (29F) for 3 years, we moved in together about a year ago. Aside from this issue, our relationship is perfect. She’s a smart, compassionate, and successful woman and I love her very much.

I work part-time while my gf works full-time as a nurse. As such, I have taken up more of the chores around the house, including cooking. I love to cook so I have no issue doing it.

However, my gf’s food preferences are so insanely restrictive that it has sucked the joy out of cooking for me. She refuses to eat anything she deems “unhealthy” which means no spaghetti, no hamburgers, no sloppy joes, no chili, nothing. Our go-to meal is grilled chicken with fresh veggies, which is delicious, but not “I’ll eat this 7 days a week” delicious.

I’m so bored of eating the same meals over and over. Anything with “too many” carbs? No. Anything greasy? No. A few times I’ve made my family’s lasagna, or grilled some hamburgers, stuff that I want to eat, and my gf would blow up at me and refuse to eat and guilt me about it.

I have reached my limit. I haven’t eaten something I like to eat in almost a year. I sat her down a few days ago and said I was going to start cooking things I want to eat. I would still incorporate her favorite meals during the week, but some days I would cook stuff that I liked too.

She was furious. She said that it was unfair of me to cook something she doesn’t like, especially when she works long shifts and looks forward to dinner. She said that we both eat the healthy meals, whereas she would not eat the unhealthy meals, so I’d be selfish for cooking something that only one of us could eat.

She asked me to make two meals. I said that it was unfair for her to expect me to cook two separate meals every night. I said she CAN eat the unhealthy meals, she chooses not to.

I told her sorry, but if I’m cooking, I want to make things I like sometimes too. She was so upset that she went to stay with her parents.

Now she is calling me an AH as well as her family (they all eat only healthy meals). I just miss hot dogs and french fries!

AITA?

I am loling that this guy just wants to make hamburgers and sloppy joes and chili but I’m inclined to judge in his favor. In the comments he specifies that he works about 30h/week to her 45-50, and he handles all the chores except laundry. I don’t quite understand though why “eating healthy” means eating the same thing everyday except lack of imagination.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Found a nice one from r/relationship_advice

i just got a letter from my alcoholic dad after 5 years of NC, i’m feeling conflicted.

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I (23m) got a letter sent to my work 2 days ago and when i opened it when i got home, i discovered it’s from my dad who i haven’t had contact with in 5 years.

For added context: my mom walked out on us when i was 2 years old and i have never seen her since (this isn’t about her though). Because my dad had to raise me on his own, we ended up in a bad financial state. He was a good dad for years until he injured his back at work when I was 11 and things spiralled down hill from there as we had no health insurance and he had to keep working, so he turned to alcohol to self medicate.

After that I had to basically raise myself since he was always too drunk or crashed out asleep and while he never hit me or anything, there were times when he’d say really hurtful and cruel things to me. I ended up acting out a lot in my teen years (mostly shoplifting and vandalism) and it was only thanks to an intervention from some teaching staff at my school that I got myself together and was able to graduate. I moved away right after that and was so angry and bitter that I cut contact with my dad completely.

Now from what I’ve found out from this letter, he’s doing a lot better. Turns out me leaving was kind of a wake-up call for him and he got sober and a free clinic has opened up in our town and he’s getting at least some kind of treatment for his back. He also told me that he loved me and was proud of me, and that he was sorry for being an awful father and that he’d really like a chance to reconnect on my terms. I got in touch with an old family friend on Facebook to corroborate this and they told me it’s true and that he’s sober.

My boyfriend thinks it would be a good idea to at least establish contact and hear him out before deciding whether or not I want to have him in my life, but I’m conflicted in case it’s just words and I get let down by him again.

Any advice?

TLDR: my alcoholic father reached out to me after 5 years NC asking for a chance to be in my life, but I’m conflicted. Any advice?

UPDATE: i just got a letter from my alcoholic dad after 5 years of NC, I’m feeling conflicted.

quote:

So after thinking on everything that’s happened for a week or two, I did decide that I wanted to establish contact with my dad.

I called the phone number he left at the bottom of his letter and luckily he was at home so I didn’t have to leave an awkward voicemail. Hearing his voice was surreal and he seemed relieved and genuinely happy that I was calling, by the end of the conversation I’m pretty sure we were both crying and I agreed to meet him at a neutral location in my hometown just to see how he was.

My boyfriend and I drove up to my hometown on Thursday and we’re staying at a hotel and on Friday I met up with my dad at one of the diners while my boyfriend remained at the hotel. I don’t remember the last time he looked this healthy and clean, he seemed to be in really good shape. Things were so awkward at first while we were ordering coffee and I filled him in on where I was in my life and how I’d been doing, and I asked him how he was.

Eventually he just came right out with his apology for how he treated me growing up and it was one of the most genuine apologies I’ve ever heard. No excuses, no self pity, no trying to blame me or my mom. He simply took responsibility for everything and apologised. He told me that after I left town, all he wanted to do was get sober and try and earn my forgiveness. That me leaving was his wake up call. I was honest and told him it would take some time, but that I was willing to forgive him since it really seemed like he was being honest and that I thought it would probably help me heal too. I also told him that I was proud of him for getting sober and I could see him trying not to cry. When I had to go, I told him that I would like to call him and keep in contact when I go back to the city and he thanked me and promised he wouldn’t mess up this opportunity to be a dad again.

I honestly feel so much lighter now after seeing him and knowing that he is really sorry for everything and that’s he’s done well for himself. We’re still a long way off from having any normal father/son relationship, but it’s something I can see in the future if things go as well as our meeting did.

TLDR: met up with my dad in my hometown, he apologised and showed change and we’re now establishing steady contact.

:kiddo:

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

It sounded like the dad was a decent single dad until he hurt his back and that sent him into a downward spiral. Similar how a lot of people wind up loving their lives up on benzos. :smith:

They’re both taking it slow and the dad knows where he screwed up. Even if their relationship is never fully repaired it’s good he’s taking better care of himself and getting proper treatment for his back issues.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

My first experience behind the wheel was in my dad’s stick-shift PT Cruiser that he’d parallel parked on an incline behind another car and a ditch. When I took my foot of the break the car rolled backwards towards the ditch, and I was terrified of hitting the car in front of me because I had zero experience using a clutch (or any car bigger than a go-cart).

Eventually I burst into tears and we tried again later in an empty parking lot. Later my mom just hired a driving instructor. I still don’t know how to drive with a clutch.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

BeetleSorceress posted:

Here's an amazing mushroom poisoning account from an insufferable lunatic who is deeply into new age woo and incredibly lucky to be alive. Long but worth it.

https://blog.mycology.cornell.edu/2006/11/22/i-survived-the-destroying-angel/

Mushroom chat!!!

I wonder how much of that is the false idea that “natural” things can’t really hurt you?

I heard of a local mushroom meet banning matsutake dishes from potlucks because people were so reckless about IDing any big white mushroom (like say, amanita smithiana) as matsutake. These are mushroom enthusiasts! The real ones smell like cinnamon and have sandy bottoms, the veils are different and the stems have different textures. A lot of people are recklessly optimistic about ingesting possible toxins.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

AITA for losing it on my husband for lying about an emergency to get me to leave my brother's wedding early?

quote:

My husband has been sick for few days. He got sicm around the time of my brother's wedding. I took care of him 24hrs for days. He's on meds and can move and go to the bathroom and eat on his own. I told him I was going to my brother's wedding and he threw a fit saying I couldn't leave him alond while he's sick. I told him he was not that sick, it's just some stomache that he's getting treatment for and suggested he call his sister to come stay with him. He said no and told me to miss it. I got upset and bluntly said no and that he could survive for few hours while I attend the wedding. He sulked and as I was leaving, he said he hoped I won't ever come back. It hurt my feelings but I know he was just mad and didn't mean it.


At the wedding, I got a text from him saying he lost balance and fell off the stairs and hurt his back. He said he was in a lot of pain he threw up and couldn't move, and insisted I get home asap. I freaked out and started calling his phone but he didn't answer. I thought "he must've passed out" and I freaked out even more. I got in my car and drove back to our house immediately.


When I got home, I rushed towards the stairs while calling out his name but he wasn't there. I started to really freak out. I rushed into the bedroom and found him in bed drinking juice and soon as he saw me he put the phone down. I instantly knew he lied so I lost it on him and started yelling saying he freaked me out and caused me to miss my brother's wedding for nothing...absolutely nothing. He said that he already told me I couldn't leave him alone in the house and that this "very scenario" could've happened if I stayed there any longer. I yelled at him calling him horrible which made him cry. He started crying and throwing his juice all over the place. I had to step out and call his sister thinking she'd come help but she came and started cussing me out saying I had a lot of nerve expecting her to back me up after I so carelessly left her brother alone af the house in that state just to attend a party. We got into an argument and I went to stag with my family. My brother understood whrn I explained the situation to him. My husband and I haven't seen each other since then but his sister kept saying I had no right to scream at her brother and cause him a panic attack and said that he at least was clear with me from the start but I chose to be dismissive.

Was what I did dismissive? Edit/ I'm 26 years old// he's 23 years old.

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Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

Well I’m tickled something I posted went into the thread title. I considered spoiler tagging the juice, it makes for a good surprise twist.

AITA for telling my son he's not fun anymore?

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My eldest turned 13 and he went from being a total boy dad to being a total square.

For example, we have a tradition of smashing pie in each other's faces for birthdays. At his 13th birthday party, he gave me a death stare when I went to put our in his face and said "don't you dare."
My 9yo son was more than happy to take it in the face though.

I even offered to take him ax throwing and he said no because he was worried about getting a splinter.

He's even covering up around me even though I told him it's not anything that I have seen before.

I can't even get a side hug. A few months ago if I hugged him then he'd start to playfully put me in a headlock.

This morning I asked him if he wanted to go to the Coffee Bean before school. Just me and him. He said no. That's like a 13yo boy turning down a trip to the arcade. I told him I didn't understand why he did not. He said there's nothing to understand. I said I don't understand why he's no fun.

I guess that comment made him cry later in the day but it's true and I'm trying to bond with him.

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