Politoons 2022: I am the Warax, I speak for the MICs

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Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Cloud Potato posted:

Stephen Collins:

Okay this one is genuinely funny. At least if you live outside of UK.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2022 20:13

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 13:28

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Living outside of US, I never know if these cartoons are supposed to na a parody or a thing that happened, because, to be honest, our ministry of health basically rolls the dice each month and changes the rules for masks and certificates. So for me it works pretty much like in the comic.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2022 17:42

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

That loving Gorrel, holy poo poo. How can you not even check the spelling of the country everyone's talking about for the last two weeks?

# ¿ Feb 16, 2022 09:51

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Somfin posted:

Gotta say I'm not impressed by any of the "hey let's go to war with Russia" cartoons so far. Like come on, folks, at least tell a loving joke while you're hawking.

I'm gonna say I laughed at the Gorrell one, that's a clever joke.

Well not really laughed since the war is happening just acress the border from me, but I appreaciate the effort there.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2022 08:39

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

I'd assume that all the "Putin sitting at the opposite end of a nuked chessboard" cartoonists are not aware how poorly the war is going for Russians? They lost as many tanks as they did in 10 years of Afghan War, a lot of their troops surrendered, they are outmatched in the cyberspace and battlefield intelligence etc... I know that Big Bad Russia makes for better imagery and ultimately politoons are a visual medium but cmon guys.

Is the US news coverage of the war like this? Because here in EU we get more stories of Ukraininan success, one of which is that they are still fighting at all.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2022 09:04

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

That last Gorrell should go straight to the OP, no nominations neccessary, holy poo poo son :psyduck:

I think we're done, we literally couldn't get any lazier than that. Absolutely amazing.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2022 08:05

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

KennyMan666 posted:

Maybe it's just me but his blank cartoons somehow feel less lazy than ones like this Ukraine one. The blank ones at least included coming up with some kind of joke, even if bad, where the punchline is "the answer is nothing, lmao gottem". This one is a lazy Google and an even lazier image edit and the caption is just... "Ukraine".

It's not saying anything. Dude straight up "a thing happened" the Russia-Ukraine war. That's advanced low effort.

Nah I also think that this is the case. Like a blank cartoon does require some thought put into it.
That's why it bothers me so, this is not even "I don't have my homework but I'm gonna fake it", but just "oh poo poo this is due tomorrow and it's already midnight, time to whip it out in 3 minutes", hence the low-res thumbnail quality of the globe and highlighting outside of lines.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2022 14:17

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

gently caress you Clay Jones, you could have at least looked up the actual metro stations in Kiev instead of going for a lovely "What is a Eastern Europe word?" joke. Even if you're trying to go for "people have lovely takes on what is considered actual crime against humanity" do not ridicule the people who are in an active war zone by putting in a joke like that.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2022 09:04

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Also what the gently caress is that Goodwyn :psyduck:

# ¿ Mar 7, 2022 09:07

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Xander77 posted:

I mean... the original post didn't bother to provide any data. And any data I could provide is from USSR authorities, who are notoriously untrustworthy by reason of being the USSR authorities.

So all I have to fall back on is the overwhelmingly broad and obvious consensus regarding how the citizens of the USSR were shocked and appalled to see drug addicts, homeless persons and prostitutes out on the streets as the regime was ready to collapse, since none of them believed these were possible in a Socialist society. And how for the vast majority of them, this was the very first time they've encountered any of these problems at all, much less out in the open.

But since the post that started this discussion went with "no they didn't! La la la, I can't hear you, none of you can testify to your own lived experience", I guess that's not a very good option?

Look. You can make a persuasive argument about the safety and stability provided by the USSR not being worth the oppression and human rights abuses. You can note that the regime collapsed not because it started oppressing people less, but as a result of internal contradictions and lack of faith by the youngest generation of future leaders. You can point out that Putin's version of USSR-lite doesn't even bring back those positive aspects that people are nostalgic for, just militarism and human rights abuses.

But if you're going with "nooooooooo, everything, and I do mean everything, about the Soviet Union was bad bad bad, and its collapse didn't make things worse for anyone", then... I guess you're flinging your poo on the internet, as is the custom, and there's no point in talking to you.

I don't know if this is a thread for this but living in a post-soviet country I can assure you that poverty and homelessness existed in big cities before the USSR collapsed. Okay, Poland wasn't part of the USSR per se, but was basically a satelite state so I think we qualify. Most of the people who lived in poverty or on the street was due to alcohol addiction, because alcohol was one of the widely available products that could have been bought. I'd think that there were less homeless, but that's because there were less people in general, especially in big cities.

I cannot testify about the drugs, because it's not my or my families cup of tea, but going back to what I said earlier, alcohol consumption was massive, way way bigger than we have now. Noone called it a problem because it was just the lifestyle back then, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

I also don't understand bringing such things up when the regime used to loving open fire at people who were protesting it's decisions, put dissidents into prisons and block work promotions to people who didn't join the Party and basically became snitches for their colleagues.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2022 09:46

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Raised By Birds posted:

Jeff Stahler

I know this is simplification and also a stupid nitpick on my part, but a gallon is such a stupid unit of measurement when compared to the liter, I doubt that you'd find one person fleeing Kiev who knows what a gallon is.

Raised By Birds posted:

Jen Sorensen

Goddamn, that's grim.

Raised By Birds posted:

Tim Campbell

drat I laughed.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 08:43

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

I thought of that one random russian dude in Metal Gear Rising who explodes with the petrol plant in the cutscene after you defeat Mistral. But I doubt Deering has played Revengence.

Clay Jones tho, holy poo poo :stare:

Kikas fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Mar 14, 2022

# ¿ Mar 14, 2022 07:59

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Why the gently caress there are so many cartoons comparing Zelensky to Churchil like it's a good thing :psyduck:

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 08:05

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Charlz Guybon posted:

This may shock you to know, but for more than 95% of Americans & Western Europeans, Churchill is one of the greatest heroes of the 20th century. Do you really not know how he is viewed by the vast majority, or are you just being obtuse and pretending to be shocked?

I mean here in Poland we mostly see Churchil as the smoking and drinking rear end in a top hat he was, who just happened to be in the office at the right time to be one of the leaders in WWII. Who also let Poland stay in the russian sphere of influence at the Yalta Conference, which lead directly into our puppet government rejecting the Marshal Plan, leaving us at the tail end of Europe economies and delaying our post-war recovery till the 1990s.

I was also under the impression that the view of Churchil The Hero was being challenged, even in mainstream media, in the last 10 years.

So yeah uh gently caress that guy :v:

But I guess that it's my point of view.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 11:14

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Discendo Vox posted:

It's because Churchill spoke to the full Congress under parallel circumstances. Washington Post has the transcript.

Okay now this is a legitimate reason tho, since he's the third guy in history to do so.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 11:16

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Charlz Guybon posted:

I mean...did he and FDR have a choice? They would have to start the third world war right on the heels of the second (although, I guess it would just be folded into WWII historiography). And the Russians had enough men in Germany to probably push the US and Britain off the continent. The contingency planning called it "Operation Unthinkable" for a reason.

I said, that's how people see him. Like Politoons, our perception has nothing to do with reality :v:

Especially since the feeling of western betrayal at the start of the war is still strong. So it's nice to see that some countries have got their poo poo together and help Ukraine a lot more than they did Poland at the start of WWII.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 11:31

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

How many "Putin painted into a corner with blood" are we on currently? 4?
The most :allears:

one was the one with "Blood" label on the bucket.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2022 21:15

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Fentanyl Deaths? Really?

# ¿ Mar 29, 2022 06:48

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Jagged Jim posted:

Man, my Wokeness stocks are looking good right now and getting in on the ground floor of CRT was the best investment I ever made.

One would think that OLED would be a better investment :downsrim:

# ¿ Mar 29, 2022 06:56

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Thaddius the Large posted:

I didn�t even get that, I was trying to puzzle out what �LYOO� meant

I was stuck on figuring out HOLWD :v:

# ¿ Mar 29, 2022 19:44

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Raised By Birds posted:

Jeff Danziger

drat this one is too close to reality

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Henry Payne

Go back to drawing cars please

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Joel Pett

I almost don't hate this, except for the fact that this is not the first time I see stereotypical France as a shorthand for all of Europe. Which annoys me.
Unless it's actually a clever take on the fact that France is pretty self-sufficient with their 70% nuclear power, if so, AGC.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2022 11:19

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

There is no justification for using nuclear energy as weapons, in any form, period. What USA did was a capital w War capital c Crime on a scale which we all hope to never see again. However they were clearly the biggest winners of WWII, especially since there was no damage to the mainland USA whatsoever, so they got to write the lab report, which is why they did not classify it as such.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2022 11:48

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Hey for all of you bummed out by that First Dog On the Moon, Kurzgesagt just released a video correcting their last lone, saying hey maybe we are not hosed!

# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 08:50

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Twelve by Pies posted:

The kids (and wife) are literally drawn with loving fangs.

Yes because they are leeching off the wealth of Ukrainians the soldier killed.
AGC :colbert:

# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 19:30

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Nenonen posted:

A good... Rall??

There's a joke and the art is passable for his style. Did he hire someone to do the cartoon for him?

No this is The One Joke about the misleadingly named Global Warming: "If global warming then why winter cold?" essentially rolled up with the whataboutism that you can sum up as "warm good".

This is a bad take that ingores the fact the weather around the globe is becoming more and more extreme precisely because of global warming and huge swaths of people are inconvinienced by both cold and warm changes to the weather, not to mention things like hurricanes, tornadoes and floods, all of which happen in the US. Also the less visible loving up of the plant lifecycle, causing damage to crops and why strawberries, grapes and cherries are up in price by 50% year after year.

I agree on the "passable for his style" art.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 12:25

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Clearly, the world has moved past the need for France.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 20:21

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rall: The Real Question

Hey Google, what is whataboutism?

# ¿ Apr 13, 2022 08:47

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Not So Fast posted:

Whataboutism isn't just when you compare two different things, it's specifically pointing out someone else's hypocrisy over your own. Unless you think Ted Rall is also spending 13bil on weapons.

I always figured that it was going "but let's not talk about Bad Thing A, what about Bad Thing B?" with the intent to stop Bad Thing A from improving. You always learn.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2022 09:24

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Raised By Birds posted:

Al Goodwyn

I mean, possibly? But what the gently caress man, that's some asspull logic.

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Phil Hands

president_with_levaers.jpg

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Clay Jones

One time his way of drawing mouths makes sense. Also, AGC? Because this is exactly take that I'm sure has dropped all over the US.

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KAL

Finally, some good loving art.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2022 06:36

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Cloud Potato posted:

Stephen Collins:

Knocking it out of the park, goddamn :eyepop:

# ¿ Apr 16, 2022 19:27

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Raised By Birds posted:

Jeff Danziger

Why is Nato segmented? Why is it a snake which will eat up the rodents? This is a metaphor, but all I can read is "Danziger actually loving believes in 'NATO imperialism' line of thought"

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Clay Jones

Man I don't get many of Jones' points and his style doesn't fit half of the content he draws, but I like his anti-gun ones, because he can do a good satire of a pro-gun mind.

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Jack Ohman

That bird is some prime avatar material. [edit] yeah looking fine

Kikas fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Apr 19, 2022

# ¿ Apr 19, 2022 06:43

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Trapezium Dave posted:

First Dog on the Moon: Is this the worst but also most important federal election in like forever?

The most accurate take on the Australian election in a cartoon so far.