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Who will win the federal Election
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Labor Majority 48 42.48%
Labor Minority 29 25.66%
Liberal Majority 3 2.65%
Liberal Minority 12 10.62%
UAP Majoirty 21 18.58%
Total: 113 votes
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Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Animal Friend posted:

In 2015 Pope Francis said if you curse his mother you can expect a punch.

Jesus would turn the other cheek. Says a lot about religious leaders I suppose.

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Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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ShoeFly posted:

I think that means you’re allowed to vote twice

I will stitch my ballots together and have the largest electoral penis ever.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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I wouldn't put it past the Libs to be trying to make Morrison look bad so that they can just blame him when they lose the election and keep all their same old policies of making themselves richer.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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The Peccadillo posted:

How does our residendt sex party guy Konomex feel about the dissolution into the ACT Cycylists to form the Logic Party? Genuine question

You have confused me with someone else sir, I vote Greens first, Labor second, and then the hellscape of WA right wing independents in descending order of how best I can spell the word penis

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Herman Cain award incoming? We shall see.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Anidav posted:

Imagine walking into the prayer room to conduct legitimate prayer only to find a orgy of staffers coated in sweat.

Imagine somehow winding up in Parliament house and being a person who wants to legitimately pray

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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If you are an avowed Satanist, isn't loving in the Prayer room technically the proper use of the room?

I'm really enjoying people listing off all the other people who have called Morrison a liar, it really is an impressively long list. He's not only a liar, he's a bad liar. At least be good at it.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Senor Tron posted:

Where's this quoted from?

Anidav's fever dreams

Mola Yam posted:

2016 census said there were 340 trans people. 2021 census data is out in a couple of months.

So lol, but also the ABS is fully aware that that's a completely unreliable number for a bunch of obvious reasons.

Wow. I have met a significant number of Australia's trans community, who apparently mostly reside in Perth. Weird.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Mola Yam posted:

With trans stuff, a lot of cis people hyperfocus on the pink bits as the gold standard of what gender a person is. And so if someone says they're trans, that cis person might assume they've had the relevant surgery.
But anecdotally, and for a lot of reasons, many trans people will go a long time, or their whole lives, without going through top or (especially) bottom surgery.

Hence men who can have babies, and women who can shoot voluminous loads out of their dicks. Due to trans invisibility/erasure until *very* recently, this can softlock the brains of cis people who had already decided they knew what "being trans" means.

All of this crap goes away if you just hit back with 'cis men can't carry babies'. Then you just stare at them.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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BrigadierSensible posted:



This is what the Advance Australia Party is doing in Melbourne. (Photo courtesy of my dad off of Facebook.)

The Republicans did a similar thing in the US to try and scare expat Chinese from voting. Dunno how successful it will be here, but it's a loving disgusting tactic either way.

Part of me hopes this backfires and makes more people vote Labor.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Megillah Gorilla posted:

The easiest way is to turn the tables and ask them to define what a "man" is. I've seen this done a few times, and it's very effective and I'll probably not do it justice here.

Anyway, you'll probably get a response something like "Well, I think it's pretty obvious." So, you say, "Then it shouldn't be hard for you to do it then."

At this point it goes in any of a couple of different ways:

Talking about penises - then you ask, "So, if a man lost his penis he'd no longer be a man?"

Testosterone - then you ask, "So, if a man lost his testicles he'd no longer be a man?"

Chromosomes - then you ask, "How do you reconcile Klinefelter's syndrome, Turner syndrome or even Y chromosome microdeletion? One in 20,000 people assigned male at birth have no Y chromosome, yet lead normal lives.


It's not up to us to justify people just trying to live their loving lives. It's up to the bigots to try and justify their small minded hate.

I've gone this route before, and whilst it makes me feel crazy woke, it usually ends in the person faking a heart attack or having an actual brain seizure as their F's in Grade 8 Science come back to haunt them.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Bargearse posted:

I’ve tried this. The usual retort is “pfft oh come on you know a man when you see one”, often followed by a rant about lefties using big words and thinking they’re soooo smart.

This is when I whip out one of those androgenous character jokes from a 90s sitcom where the characters spend all episode trying to work out if they're a man or a woman, and they always have a unisex name and surprise, surprise, they're actually a wo/man! Helps to have a couple pictures of them laminated with their name badge on.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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woofbro posted:

I haven’t heard ICAC or anti-corruption come up in campaigning discourse. Maybe it’s like casting a stone from a glass house mentality, dirt on corruption will come their way? It is a policy for election on their website.

Yeah this is their campaign. It’s absolutely necessary yet can seem like a weak rallying point and it’s easy to say it’s predicted to cost 2.5 billion it’s not worth it.

Spent 5 billion dollars on not getting submarines, anything under 5 billion is now a freebie for the opposition. Aged care? We'll spent less than 5 billion on it and actually get something for your money. Childcare? We'll spend half of 5 billion and still get more service than Morrison got from France, which was nothing.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Senor Tron posted:

Have other states been getting his ads about how people outside cities will pay less tax?

Yep.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Why does this picture give me massive Mr Gribbels from Round the Twist vibes?

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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I would make this man PM in a heartbeat. I relate to this man. Still going to put Greens first though, because he's not in my seat.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Centusin posted:

Answering the dumb economic gotcha questions should be the first thing you prepare for if you’re labor lol

Nah, Labor should start spouting the line that the unemployment rate isn't a great mechanism of tracking workforce participation, and that underemployment remains high with many Australian's working multiple jobs to get by. Twist their dumbarse questions into an actual useful line, and an attack on the government. And heck, the dipshit Aussie media.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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You can't rape and rob someone at gunpoint for their Indue card, you can only rape them at gunpoint. Based on a true story, which was frankly horrific.

Tudge is still in cabinet, but doesn't have a portfolio, though no one has replaced him as Education Minister, except someone was filling him for him - who was a total idiot, except now apparently he was never the new Education Minister. Also, the investigated themselves and found Tudge did nothing wrong, though it's hard to say that with certainty as his ex-staffer wouldn't participate in the investigation as she didn't think they would investigate fairly. And even though they decided they did nothing wrong, they're paying her out half a million of tax payer money.

If the LNP win with a scandal this big it's just a joke. A huge loving joke. I'll start dressing as a medieval knight and running under the gently caress Me Party, with the only policy being that they're already loving us anyway, so if you vote me in I'll just gently caress myself.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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If Labor loses this election, what's the take away? Can't win election with policies, can't win election without policies. Just dissolve the Labor party?

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Don Dongington posted:

The fact that state Labor goverments manage to cut through and have gained government basically everywhere but NSW (which is a basketcase politically) means that there is a pathway to victory, but I'd be curious to know how much the media backing of the Liberals in WA for example impacted local's trust for said institutions.

That said, I think the tactic often employed against a clear favourite is to be unreasonably critical while not obviously and blatantly fellating the other side. This doesn't seem to happen as much federally, although I suppose it's harder against a small target opposition leader than a premier willing to go against the grain.

I would still be curious to know how a campaign like this one affects the population's perception of the media as more or less trustworthy though. At some point you have to imagine it would come back at them. If any of you resourceful buggers has a study or article on hand, I'd be keen to see it.

Edit: And I guess another element would be that a lot of the more toxic media personalities willing to tie their ship to the federal libs live in NSW, so they have far more to lose from the Feds losing govt than a premier in another state.

There is obviously a way forward here, however the last Opposition leader of WA was engaged to the editor of the West Australian newspaper, so there's obviously issues there with media bias. You should have seen the Mandurah Mail when he first got elected, the only news they published for months were puff pieces about him - including his wedding to his ex-wife.

You don't have to imagine, you can go look, but if you're lazy just imagine it. Political candidate gets married, see all the pics!

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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TheMostFrench posted:

AFR: "I’m travelling with Scott Morrison and we haven’t met a real voter yet[...]

Interactions with members of the public are risky. Real people have strong opinions, and they often aren’t afraid to share them, especially when cameras are rolling[...]

There is a tour of the location, where photos are taken and camera footage collected,
Mr Morrison asks questions and has a go at whichever equipment available.
Once a day, there is also a press conference where the Prime Minister delivers his message, introduces the local candidate or MP, and then fields questions.
The media, represented by one person per outlet, generally do not know where they are travelling, or for what purpose, until shortly before arrival.
We move to a new hotel every day. Flight times and destinations are also a mystery, but that won’t stop us from guessing where to next."

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/i-m-travelling-with-scott-morrison-and-we-haven-t-met-a-real-voter-yet-20220414-p5adgr

Whilst I enjoy hearing about how Morrison has secluded himself from the public, I'm also getting real tired of the media just inserting themselves into the news. Feels like bad journalism.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Ranter posted:

Anthony Albanese of The Labor "Left" Faction :)

Traditionally socialists have been quite xenophobic and anti immigration due to the pressures it puts on worker wages. So I don't quite see the "Left" quotes meaningfully? You can totally be a socialist and a racist shitheel, the two are not mutually exclusive at all.

Having said that, gently caress Albo, vote Greens.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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I'm starting to feel like if Labor win this, it won't be because of any campaign they ran, but because of the sheer weight of people on social media ranting about how over the top corrupt the LNP are. If only Labor could channel that a little bit better than promising ICAC by Christmas.

We need some old school black and white scare campaign poo poo.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Absolutely pathetic nonentities for Labor leaders has been the norm in my lifetime.

I miss Kim Beazely, I know he lost and lost and lost. But he was personable? He had a presence. Much like Rudd.

Latham also had presence, but it was the sort that made you intensely uncomfortable and convinced you to switch to the next train carriage.

Apparently Labor is going for the throat this week and is actually going to mention how dogshit the government has been. Might be interesting. I actually saw a Labor sign today after a week of nothing but UAP and One Nation signs all over the place.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Jezza of OZPOS posted:

I'm in dickson and I will brook no complaining about how bad your local member is unless it is literally morrison because I have to look at peter duttons face countless times a day for another month

Christian Porter's office is in my town. I realise he is no longer standing, but I'll fight you for who had the worst member.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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I think I felt my soul cringe hearing Morrison say that line. How out of touch do you need to be? Someone's told him he needs to relate to people, and he's taken that and spat out 'I can't relate to this'.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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lih posted:

There are actually pensioners already forced onto the cashless debit card - only in Cape York which has a carve out in the legislation - but still. It's clear that expanding the cashless debit card is something the government has been very interested in. I certainly don't think that they would suddenly force all pensioners onto it, but chipping away around the edges & forcing pensioners who are deemed to be too irresponsible onto it seems very possible. Labor are absolutely right to sound the alarm here even if it's an exaggeration.

It's also one area where Labor are a clear improvement from the Rudd/Gillard years - they significantly expanded the cashless debit card then.

Who wins here though? The Indue card company or the pokies industry who have been farming pensioners of their meagre income for years? They can't both exist, surely.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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They finally start going hard on Morrison being useless, AND they pull their trump card by pretending Albo has to isolate due to 'covid'. These are some pro moves by Labor, did they fire their last campaign team and get someone new in?

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

jsut rememberd the time mccormack said pacific islands didnt have to worry about climate change because they can come and pick fruit

But where will we send our seasonal slaves in the off season? He's practically offering to let them stay, which seems very unNationals of him.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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It's a play on the words Albanese and Queasy Shaun, it's like a pun.

Just a bit of fun Shaun.

...



Penny Wong coming out with some absolute Zingers now that Albaqueasy is off sick. On the Solomon Islands Chinese Military Superbase fiasco she's said about Morrison not even contacting the President 'He doesn't hold a hose, he doesn't pick up a phone, he doesn't do anything'. Really great 30 second radio grab. Wish she could be our next PM, but it's not to be.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Megillah Gorilla posted:

What is this?

Reddit won't let me see it unless I download their app.

Morrison saying how much he likes cum.

It is that one yeah?

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Animal Friend posted:

How was China doing in the 1930s

I actually know this because I studied Chinese history for awhile. And the answer is: Not so good. If we are repeating history we should see Japan invade mainland China and absolutely hand their poo poo to them in about 5 years time.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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I did temp work for a while when I was younger, and one of the jobs was at a flower factory around mothers day. I was very excited to be on the flower assembly line when I rocked up that morning, but as I was the only guy who showed up from the temp agency all the women were sent to arrange flowers and they put me on the box assembly line which was two guys - one supervisor and one intellectually disabled man who was very nice but not at all talkative. For some reason the supervisor thought I was also disabled before I'd even said a word, because I guess everyone who got sent to put cardboard boxes together was disabled. I did wind up assembly every box they had for mothers day before lunch, and they sent me home early and said don't come back for the next 3 days as I'd done it all. The supervisor did apologize for treating me like I was disabled. It was altogether a very surreal and off putting experience. The guy they usually had doing boxes was on a very small fraction of what I'd been making that day.

On the one hand, from the capitalists perspective - if someone is capable of a fraction of the work, give them a fraction of the pay. On the other hand, that is a very lovely perspective to take. It's not like they gave me 3 days worth of pay either. Strong reasoning for a UBI.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Tehan posted:

It used to be the case and might still be the case that you could change your provider pretty easily, if you research the ones in your area you can hopefully find one that's a non-profit or not-for-profit that should hopefully be less ghoulish. The jobaccess website says that in DES you can switch up to five times no questions asked and that you can do so by calling Centrelink, so even if all of the ones you can reach are for-profit you can shop around and hopefully get someone better.

Call Centrelink? There's the catch.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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Bargearse posted:

Tudge is going to win my electorate in a loving landslide, so I'm going with 1) Greens 2) Labor, make the rest up as I go along, and dead last, Rebekah Spelman for United Australia

A whole electorate who love abusive cheaters? Interesting.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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mahershalalhashbaz posted:

the left are so weak with their propaganda. the LORD has given them during scomo's reign fires, floods, drought, plague, rivers choked with rotting dead fish, scomo guffawing over a lump of coal in parliament while barnaby joyce glows red-hot and horny in the background, the hawaii pics, and the threat of nuclear war that his government keeps pouring more oil on for absolutely no reason. does anybody use any of this? no. all we get are "but will the liberals really create more jobs and do something about aged care? albo investigates from his loungeroom"

I wouldn't besmirch the left. I'm seeing a lot of cannon fire from unions, getup, the Greens, and random lefties on youtube and tiktok of all places. A few good ads from Labor that probably need a bigger budget to get pushed out there. There was one really good attack ad I saw once. Almost like the collective progressives of Australia have gone 'well Labor isn't going to do it, get Scott'.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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According to government stats on boats that have been released, and they claim to only release them when the stats won't affect ongoing operations. There are been 5 boats in between 2019-2021. More boats in the previous years. No report on boats since 2021. So they did not stop the boats.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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hooman posted:

Triplepost!

McGowan has offered teachers 2.5% per year, for the next two years.

Needless to say I'm voting no. Give me minimum CPI (3.5%) or :fuckoff: even the RBA wants to see wages go up so they can modify interest rates.

Billions in surplus and this is what they offer us? There's an international teacher shortage coming up and this is what they offer us?

I think I'll vote no. I mean, give me a loving laptop at least.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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This just in, Greens slated to win election. Australia to become a socialist utopia.

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Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

So.... As a non home owner the interest rate rise is good for me right? I.e. cost of living of other items should come down?

I was but a wee lad the last time we had interest rates go up, instead of down, but if my memory and my drama studies serve me correct. Rising interest rates = good for the rich, the poor are turbo hosed.

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