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So I just want to confirm, but the cellphone data confidentiality stuff was not properly handled by Jones' team after the judge gave them a brief extension, right?
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2022 18:21 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 18:40 |
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Oh okay, I wasn't sure if the phone evidence was free and clear now. Also, I still get a hearty laugh at Reynal trying to argue that Mark was violating the "spirit" of the law by wanting Alex's lawyers to follow the word of law. I mean, he's a lawyer, he should understand that the word of law is their bread and butter. Also, that he never actually gave a followup link like he said he was going to kind of puts a different light on the whole "spirit" of what he was trying to do.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2022 18:52 |
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Devor posted:*Words about Spirit of law and not being a dick* Oh, I understand that fully, and like I said, considering Reynal never actually sent a followup link like he said, he can argue "Spirit of law" all he wants, it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't following the spirit of the law himself, especially considering how he was acting towards Mark the first few days.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2022 19:34 |
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Cthulu Carl posted:I'm not a frog! I'M A MAN! But did it turn you gay?
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2022 18:55 |
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chainchompz posted:Buy 'em a few drinks first, usually. I listened to the Behind the Bastards episodes on Alex Jones, and they talked about his early career. It definitely seemed like early on, he was much less 100% conspiracy nut, and it seems much easier to believe that early Alex Jones-as-we-know-him WAS more of a character than how he actually was, but over time, 9/11 broke him and he fell into the fear mongering snake oil salesman mindset that ended up taking root in his brain.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2022 22:33 |
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"My company is bankrupt because I keep selling out of all my product and have to buy more" is certainly... A strategy. Not sure I would want to say that I'm ONLY making almost a million a week when trying to convince a court that I have no money though.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2022 03:10 |
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kntfkr posted:Alex Jones would be less able to obfuscate finances and hold up restitution if he were nailed to a cross. My God man, don't you know that if you nailed Alex to a cross, all he would have to do is UNLEASH HIS ALPHA MALE SUPERVITALITY GIVEN TO HIM BY HIS OMEGAFORCE BRAWN PILLS, AND JUST SNAP THE CROSS LIKE A TWIG AND BEAT US ALL TO DEATH WITH IT? I can see him making a pitch like that on Infowars if they even mentioned crucifying him in any context.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2022 19:52 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Pattis just now filed a motion to disqualify the judge from his show cause hearing tomorrow. For someone who doesn't understand legalese, what is Pattis trying to argue? That the judge is obviously biased against him because the judge is holding him accountable for his own actions?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2022 18:24 |
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Plan R posted:Hey guys! Did you know that everybody that isn't AJ and his thralls are satanists and pedophiles?! It's like somebody scraped off my eyelids! "Did you ever take the LORD'S name in vain? That's what I thought, you vile heathen. And did you ever look in a mirror while naked as a child? Exactly, you sick freak. Bing bong everyone is a satanic pedophile." Probably how Alex Jones would defend it.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2022 21:45 |
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Mark said he destroyed the copies he had recieved as soon as he realized he had them, right? I'm assuming that's what Reynar was SUPPOSED to have done, but had kept ahold of them for ~reasons~ and whoopsiedoodle, passed them along?
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2022 17:18 |
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So basically, after not joining the CT case, Reynal should have deleted the medical files (at the very least) but didn't because ??? (I'm guessing it's because he's bad at his job, as shown by this entire cluster gently caress of a trial).
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2022 17:34 |
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Your Gay Uncle posted:If this was a normal case and Alex/Reynal weren't being such gigantic shitheads, would "please disregard" have been enough for Mark to not use the files out of professional courtesy? In general, from what I understand, yes. From what I understand of the timeline, Reynal sent the files, was informed that he sent the wrong files, said "Can you pwetty pwease dewete the files uwu", and then proceeded to act like a complete douchbag to Mark in court, complete with swearing and offensive gestures, and to to top it off, never even tried sending a figleaf cover of "here's a link to some related materials so you have no reason to keep the other files". That to me is the most damning part of the whole thing. It would be one thing if Reynal was acting like a dick in court but cooperating with Mark behind the scenes, because Alex Jones probably expects his lawyers to be loud and bombastic jerks, but when he can't actually follow through with something as simple as "I threw some files into a Google drive link and sent it to Mark to cover my own rear end after my fuckup"... well, you get what you get.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2022 13:06 |
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Confusedslight posted:https://twitter.com/JohnMoritz18/status/1563158095731490818?s=20&t=evPVj6TqgCRdpbonh2X8Zg Personally, I would have thought 12 days later when your office's fuckup was publicized to the world would have been the worst day of your career, or the day after when you tried to undo some of the damages, and got verbally slapped by the judge who basically said "Maybe if you and your client weren't such fuckwits and actually complied with the court, you wouldn't be in this mess" in a court case that was, once again being streamed for the whole world to see. But what do I know, I'm not a lawyer.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2022 15:01 |
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Troubadour posted:I immediately [after changing my underwear and waiting a whole day] I hadn't actually read the article, I didn't realize that he is now trying to claim that he didn't learn about the leak until the day Mark brought it up in court. Reynar... knows that when he said he emailed Mark to please disregard the link 13 days prior, that it was being streamed and the video is available for the world to see on YouTube, right? Does he just have that compulsion to constantly lie?
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2022 15:35 |
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StrangersInTheNight posted:it's honestly kind of amazing that lawyers get ten full days after making a fuckup that big in the first place to try and reverse it 10 days kind of makes sense when yoy consider that 1) The fuckup usually wouldn't be "Here is 300 gigs of data, 290 gigs of which you should have had a year ago" and 2) Considering the legal implications, having 10 days to make sure that protected documents are properly identified and the judge has time to sign off on the rollback makes sense.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2022 16:14 |
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Who are you people and what is this thread about? The only thing I can remember is a large red man charging at me with a large vat of chili. Who is this Alex Jones fellow? He sounds smart, handsome and above all else, 100% truthful and trustworthy in everything he says.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2022 18:59 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:In bankruptcy updates, they released the CT plaintiffs entirely and have a hearing set on a motion to disqualify Schwartz as the debtor in possession as he's just controlled by jones and to appoint tort claims committee. For us laypeople, what does that mean? That's... a good thing, right?
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 16:17 |
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Yes Mr Jones, it is a predetermined outcome. Because you hosed around for so long that the courts decided you needed to find out. This isn't your days in court, that ship sailed, this is just seeing how much you owe.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2022 18:53 |
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1hey, listen, Alex Jones said he wasn't afraid of being martyred the NWO. People coming after him because he repeatedly called them crisis actors after their loved ones were killed in a mass shooting and made them the targets of extended harassment by his wingnut followers? That's another thing entirely. Alex Jones NEEDS all thise bodyguards to protect him from the repercussions of his own actions!
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2022 11:19 |
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So is today the day that the defense gets thrown out of court for contempt? How much longer can the Judge's patience hold out?
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2022 14:26 |
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:That email from November 2020 from personal email accounts with "re: depo names" and a rough bio on witnesses had to come from the dropbox cache right? No way they provided that in discovery Didn't they provide entire psychiatric evaluations of random people during discovery? Alex Jones/Infowars is stupid enough to provide that stuff. That could even be the same thing we're both talking about.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2022 19:27 |
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Confusedslight posted:Wonder if the outcome of the last trial shook him and he'll be uncharacteristically less uhh Alex Jones if that makes sense. Unfortunately, Alex Jones made up a special batch of chili to eat through his depression over the massive loss, and forgot any lessons that may have been learned from the trial. At least that's what I figure considering the poo poo he's already up to in the past week about this trial.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2022 15:00 |
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https://twitter.com/MoString/status/1572221330279505920?cxt=HHwWgIDRuYm-09ErAAAA
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2022 14:53 |
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Faust IX posted:Fake edit: I went back to the footage: Jones says it costs $4 to make a single VASOBOOST, but they sell for $40, or $20 on sale. So that’s either 10 times the cost or 5 times. And this is relevant because he kept repeating that the average viewer was working class and could figure out basic math. Didn't he also blurt that out after trying to
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 12:08 |
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:that was in regards to what was said in the tx case and jones is correcting the record there in that he was claiming it was ~30% in his depo then Either way, most people would, y'know, not brag about how little a product costs to make and how much they sell it for when you're also trying to convince people that your company doesn't make that much money, especially after you tried to say that there was only a slim 30% markup.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 13:41 |
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waydownLo posted:he also said the judge is being controlled by mattei, which is an awesome thing for the judge to learn about! Calling the judge a puppet in a press conference on the steps of her courthouse the day after being warned that any more outbursts will get him found in contempt of court is... is it really playing with fire (as opposed to just self-immolating) if you're standing on a massive lake of gasoline while also dousing yourself in kerosene while doing so?
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 15:41 |
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https://twitter.com/annamerlan/status/1575157723276070916 Alex Jones is a literal ghoul, can the jury sentence him to the gulag for crimes against humanity?
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2022 17:34 |
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InsertPotPun posted:uuuuuuuuuugh. i hate this. but...why are they focusing on the events of the day and not the damage jones himself has done? I thought they had already shown a portion of what he had been saying. This is more "This is how these people are connected to the shooting, and this is the poo poo they've gone through as a result of Jones' toxic bile". You don't need to keep replaying the same clips for every witness.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2022 17:45 |
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InsertPotPun posted:yeah i get that, but they're testifying about what happened the day off the shooting and not what jones did to them. i get in the abstract, that establishing that they loved their children helps, but what about testifying about the letters and emails and phone calls they've received paired with what jones has said on his show? Because they already showed that earlier in the trial that he's called them all actors. Repeatedly. Now it's the families of the victims having a chance to explain how they have been personally affected by Jones' lies. They don't need to inflict Alex Jones' show on the jury every time someone hurt by his words takes the stand.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2022 18:20 |
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Where was it that Alex Jones' lawyers tried to claim that the money was tied up in a company owned by a mysterious individual known only by the initials AEJ and the prosecution asked what Alex Jones' middle name was?
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2022 14:14 |
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Pirate Radar posted:Bemerick? Hey, you can't expect me to spend 10 seconds to Google Alex Jones' full name. That's 10 seconds longer than he spends looking up facts for anything on his show.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2022 14:37 |
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"Your honor, we decided that in addition to all of the money generated by Alex Jones since Sandy Hook be awarded to the plaintiffs, that Alex Jones should also be forced to subside solely on the products he sells through his store for a period of no less than 1 year". Or would that fall under "cruel and unusual torture"?
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2022 21:42 |
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goatface posted:Editing out the sighing or adding in the eyerolls? "So... do we just make a note to assume that he rolled his eyes every time the prosecution said anything, or do we just copy and paste "Alex Jones rolled his eyes" between every second word?"
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2022 17:30 |
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Do the jury members continue to deliberate over the weekend, or just during the week?
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2022 15:21 |
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Now now, death is too easy a way out for Jones. Just make him have to live off of his own products for the span of time equal to the time his followers spent harassing the families of those killed in Sandy Hook. Per family member.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2022 17:51 |
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Come on "All of the income generated from Infowars and Alex Jones since it's inception!"
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2022 20:10 |
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OneMoreTime posted:You are 100% correct. To be fair, I imagine it's just a lot of weird animal sounds and the words "Kangaroo Court" An obvious pause as you hear Alex Jones say "10 Trillion dollars" before ending thr live feed and going on about how viewers need to buy and donate to pay off the astronomical amount.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2022 20:38 |
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So they're going to find Alex dead in his studio tomorrow when he drank himself to death, aren't they?
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2022 20:52 |
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I just had a disturbing thought, Jones has always come off as being just a few feet or so from going over the edge and shooting up a courthouse or government office himself (and let's be honest, when you spew brainworm poison for a living, even if you know it's all BS, at some point it's going to start living in your head), is there a non-zero chance that he tries take as many people with him as he can after this? Especially when it goes through appeals and he's still left owing more money than he can possibly actually make in the remainder of his life?
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2022 14:02 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 18:40 |
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Random Stranger posted:We should start a pool for "Where in the World is Alex Jones?" The lowest payouts would be Russia and at home in a post-chili coma. Where does "Ate enough memory-wiping chili that he became a blank slate and had a new personality and history implanted. He now lives in Ohio under the name of Mark Fedderburg, who had been in a coma for the past 30 years, and only emerged recently to discover his family had passed away, but had left him a generous inheritance where he now lives peacefully raising chickens and helping out at local homeless shelters" fall on the payouts? And do I need to have the new alias or resident state right, or does just having the general gist count? I would hate to lose if he lived in Nebraska and I got everything else right.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2022 13:56 |