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Who's your 2022 MVP?
This poll is closed.
Shohei Ohtani 50 59.52%
Aaron Judge 19 22.62%
Hey, the national league has an MVP too you know! 15 17.86%
Total: 84 votes
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Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

mdemone posted:

Ty Cobb has an OPS+ of 168 and no other 3000-hit player is higher than 159 (Musial).
I'd never really thought about it until it randomly popped up in my head about a week ago, but Ty Cobb's career average of .366 is even more ludicrous when you consider the fact that all of his prime years took place during the Dead Ball Era.

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Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

If the GG voting is still the same formula where managers and coaches are 75% of the vote I just....I can't take it seriously.

Of course I spent my formative years watching Derek Jeter get multiple Gold Gloves and Rafael Palmeiro get one when he spent almost the entire season as a DH so my view of them is eternally tainted.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Inspector_666 posted:

This is kind of wild, right? Won the WS, got a one-year offer?!
First GM to leave a World Series winner in 75-80 years.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

The 2020s Astros strike me as akin to the 1990s Chicago Bulls in a way: incredibly successful in spite of the fact that they have a miserable rear end in a top hat cheapskate owner.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Everyone's favorite "225-pound" C/3B/1B, Willians Astudillo, is going to continue his pro career with the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks in Japan.

Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Nov 12, 2022

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

maffew buildings posted:

you meant C/3B/1B/P
That dude ain't just the pitcher he's the whole mound :hurr:

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

fast cars loose anus posted:

Did we talk about the Feds maybe needing to check if Steve Cohen is involved in some really lucrative investment schemes
Well the Mets do historically love their deferred-money contracts...

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Maybe the Yankees keep losing in the post-season because deep down they know that their fanbase doesn't deserve a championship team.

STAC Goat posted:

Yeah I can’t imagine them playing games or seeing a way to spin losing Judge. They played hardball with him last spring and this is the cost. Losing him now would be the sort of poo poo fans talk about for generations.

But who knows? Just gotta wait and see.
Well don't forget that Hal has to take the "banks and bond holders into account" :lol: before dumping said truck full of money on his doorstep.

Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Nov 12, 2022

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

What if it turned out that the price to pay for having Jeffrey Maier helping kick-start their 1990s dynasty was that the Yankees basically had to become MLB's Sisyphus of the 21st Century?

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Intruder posted:

It's going to be the contract we thought Pujols would be except Pujols regressed immediately instead of five years down the line
Well it turned out Pujols' specific problem was that he signed for the Angels. If he'd stayed with St. Louis he'd probably have 4,000 hits and 900 home runs.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Some of the further details are amazing, like how he made most of those 899 bets after paying off a gambling debt worth $200,000.

I wonder if this ends his career in Asia too, because Japan and Korea have a long history of organized crime slithering its way into baseball and having someone who's that drat stupid when it comes to illicit gambling has to be risky to have around.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Timby posted:

The Yakuza used to--and might possibly still--have a heavy influence on the video game industry in Japan, particularly with counterfeiting, so it's not like organized crime is compartmentalized to just sports.
Well yes I know this, but I was just saying that I can't imagine a guy who's pled guilty to illegal gambling is going to be able to continue playing on a continent that has a history of organized crime and illegal gambling rings affecting the sport that he plays.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

STAC Goat posted:

I thought they were always cheap?
That contract is, per season, almost identical to what he was making, so........?

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

bawfuls posted:

Dodgers should sign deGrom and Verlander, then don’t let either of them or Kershaw pitch until August.
Have all three of them rotate in one pitcher's spot - one of the three starts once every 15 days.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Shinjobi posted:

Mike Maddux is coming back to be the Rangers pitching coach. This is good news.
Will never 100% believe he's actually Greg's brother

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

The Correa stuff at this point feels like waiting until December 26th to go get all the Christmas Candy at a nice discount.

Preferably dark chocolate that goes straight in the freezer.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

rickiep00h posted:

Not a single Raul Ibañez spike?
There were a couple of faceplants in there but this is another classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSW8XULgV8M

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Penisaurus Sex posted:

Athletes care a lot less about the no income tax thing than fans/commentators. Or at least that’s how it looks
Well yeah because that only matters for half of the games that you play, and for endorsement deals I think it depends on either where you do the endorsements or where the company is based.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

maruhkati posted:

I'm not sure if Falvine knew it would play out this way based on last year's physical or if they came into this hoping for luck to save them and just happened to get it. If I were them I would never tell.
The best magicians never reveal their secrets.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

bawfuls posted:

Mostly because when you're making that much money the marginal difference in taxes has no material impact on your life whereas things like the weather in your new home city, how close it is to family/friends etc does.
Also if they have a halfway-competent accountant they'll be able to minimize their tax outlay no matter where they live.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

bawfuls posted:

The Dodgers routinely pay Kershaw a significant portion of his contract via signing bonus, which counts in his off season home state of Texas and thus is not subject to state income taxes. Big Brain Kershaw taking one-year deals to minimize his tax liability.
And then on the other hand you had those athletes who took portions of their salary in Dogecoin or some poo poo like that.

bawfuls posted:

the weather in your new home city, how close it is to family/friends etc does.
I think this matters more in the cross-year sports where players have to live in the cities that employ them during the winter. Signing for the Twins and living there during the summer is a completely different matter than signing for the Timberwolves and having to live in Minneapolis during January.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Good Dog posted:

Home run robberies are the most exciting defensive play in baseball so lowering wall heights to further facilitate that is good.
The outfield fence should be like it is in cricket - about a foot tall if that.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

bawfuls posted:

Yes, if you crunch the numbers as Eric Stephen did, it becomes clear the Dodgers are going to be just over the tax this year. To get under they’d need to shed salary in trade, by moving valuable pieces or dumping good prospects along with bad money. Both options make the team worse so the rich fucks who own the team need to suck it up and pay for their Bauer mistake.
It is kind of amusing that they're scared of paying a Repeater Penalty given that the team is owned by at least two multi-billionaires.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Ya DWAR outside of statcast seems made up nonsense and I'm not sure why neither uses it aside from trying to be smarter than the room which well ya.
Overarching defensive metrics in any sport are extremely nebulous and it seems like they all have to be tweaked every year, and to be honest I wonder if we're all just better off ignoring them except in Jeter-esque cases of "That guy makes cool-looking jump throws but actually HOLY gently caress he's awful at defense now that I look at it".

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Intruder posted:

Reading the interview with Correa on the Athletic and the Mets used the same ankle specialist as the Giants who had already failed him, seems kind of weird
Kind of? That seems really weird.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

euphronius posted:

Why didn’t they just do 8 batters instead of adding a DH?
Do like PessaPallo (Finnish baseball variant) and have 12 batters compared to nine fielders.

Four designated hitters!

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Milovan Drecun posted:

I was happy when I saw this, since I had similar concerns. The Twins were definitely interested last time he was a FA.
Why it's almost as if something really changed with him since the last time was a free agent.

Inspector_666 posted:

He looked like absolute poo poo on the mound and the pitch clock is going to totally gently caress him.
One would think that a guy who throws so hard would want to throw his pitches in quick succession, if nothing else. But then again, I'm no sports psychologist.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

I'm legit surprised that all the people here who loving hate the Yankees didn't post the Jeffrey Maier incident one after the other.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

camoseven posted:

Idk where else to post this so: holy poo poo the monkeys paw of sports betting is a nightmare. Literally no broadcast can go more than 5 minutes without a sportsbook promo or line update or whatever. And if I have to see Kevin Hart screaming about draftkings one more god drat time I swear I am gonna lose it
I'm surprised to see places like DraftKings go hard on the advertising when they flew too a little close to the sun being so obnoxious with it on NFL broadcasts that they invited congressional scrutiny into their business operations.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

zoux posted:

Mantle made the HoF without a freakin' ACL, ya gotta rub some dirt on it
also without a functioning liver

unclear if he rubbed dirt on that too

fast cars loose anus posted:

Andruw Jones fell off a cliff but I'm pretty sure that was injury related
I thought it was more fat-related

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Niwrad posted:

They are very deep in good, not great pitching prospects. I don't necessarily think that's bad considering how much pitching prospects vary as they develop. Hope being that a couple guys will turn into frontline starters and others can provide depth. Their problem of course is they have never been able to develop pitching.

It's clear they just don't see themselves as a big market team. Jed has talked a great deal about his admiration for both Cleveland and Tampa. I'm guessing they'd like to be a slightly higher-budget version of the Guardians. Develop players in-house and hope your weak division gets you in the playoffs. The difference is that both Tampa and Cleveland have much better front offices and development systems. Jed has been a pretty bad GM and should have been let go by now.
To me it's pretty obvious that Hoyer's job for the Ricketts Family is simply to make sure not to spend too much of their money.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

FlamingLiberal posted:

TIL that it took Jimmie Foxx 7! years of voting to get in the Hall

Keep in mind that the 500 HR club was like 4 people at this point

https://twitter.com/baseballhall/status/1618695321810247701?s=46&t=aj4WRw9P3GCuOwdNYuqGSQ
Joe Dimaggio - All-Star every year of his career, 56-game hitting streak, .325 career average, 9 rings, ~80 WAR - got less than 50% on his first ballot. BBWAA members have always been assholes.

That's why the NBA is the best Hall of Fame by far. Were you involved with basketball? Were you famous because of your involvement in basketball for a period of time? Congratulations you are a Hall of Famer. "Inclusive" HoF's are far superior.

Related Hall of Fame note: former Indians prospect/washout Alex Ramirez was voted into the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame....last week? He hit 380 home runs in 13 season in Japan and also managed an NPB team for five years. He was elected along with Randy Bass - the first two foreign-born players elected in three decades.

Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jan 27, 2023

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Sydin posted:

We must break the cycle of BBWAA violence. As a first act of healing, every voter must be forced at swordpoint to check the box for Dave Stieb, entering him as the second unanimous HoF candidate.
Occupy the HoF and refuse to leave until the BBWAA is disbanded.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Shiroc posted:

Then Juan took a ball to the groin
Don't sell this short. Juan didn't just take a ball to the groin, he took a 105-mph line drive to the nuts while not wearing a cup and he went to the DL with the official reason being "bruised testicles".

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Criminal Minded posted:

Leaping back to a post from like six or seven pages ago re: Ozzie Smith, from 1982 to 1992 the guy had a 96 OPS+ at a time where like only two shortstops could hit at all. And he was the best fielder in baseball history. He had no power but he got on base, he was a great baserunner, he slapped lots of doubles. There's nothing remotely questionable about his greatness, he approached 80 WAR.
He's like Brooks Robinson: someone who was a decent-to-good bat at his position for a long time, but was great at intangible things and so extraordinary at defense that he's unquestionably a Hall of Famer.

The difference, of course, being that Brooks didn't end up on the Orioles because of a dumb trade (sorry Padres fans).

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

maffew buildings posted:

hot take - anyone who questions the wizard's hall worthiness is a Bad Person
What's weird is that Fangraphs hates him compared to BBRef - shaves about 10 points off his WAR. I think it's due to how their calculations view his offense.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Criminal Minded posted:

they still might not overcome how brutal the Steve Carlton trade was, zero-sum
They traded him immediately after a 20-win season too, which at the time was a big deal given the lack of advanced metrics. And then of course he had his famous 12-WAR season his 1st year in Philadelphia - the one where he accounted for drat-near half of their wins.

Oddly enough, even though he didn't get it and the Phillies were in last that season might be the best argument for a pitcher winning MVP in the expansion era. If you look it up at BBRef, you'll see that Carlton went 27-10 and the rest of the Phillies starters went something like 17-57.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Some Numbers posted:

Before the trade to Cincinnati, Griffey only had two seasons with a WAR under 4.

After the trade, he only had two seasons with a WAR over 2.
Leaving Seattle was easily the biggest mistake Griffey ever made.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Hand Row posted:

Uh have you considered you are the weird one.
Look man we're all weird here.

rickiep00h posted:

Fun fact about Lars I learned this week: his mother is Japanese and he is playing for Japan in the WBC. When you get the chance to play with Shohei (et al), you take it.
So happy that Japan's about to catch Nootbar Fever.

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Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

zoux posted:




I guess it makes sense the players like it, I don't like having to work late either
It's really just so loving stupid it's hard for me to put it into words

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