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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Meow Tse-tung posted:

Mobile suit gundam: 88th MS team

of the 14th regiment?

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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Ardennes posted:

Well usually the discussion is never what is logical for a Soviet perspective or what actually would have been better for the people who lived there, but everyone could sign some sort of agreement or implicit pact with the Nazis but not the Soviets, even if it was absolutely the best choice at the time.

Also, if the Soviets, for whatever reason, had attacked the Germans in 1939 (despite not being prepared), the Western allies would have literally done nothing to help them and probably signed their own white peace eventually. At some point, the Soviets had to defend their own best interests, and that meant making a pact with one of their enemies.

The French Army general staff actually made the mistake of admitting this in talks with the Red Army, that the very most they could deliver in the event of war would be to tie down 10 German Divisions, and that they couldn't even promise that, because the military mission had been sent without any authority to offer the alliance they were supposed to be planning.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Majorian posted:

Field Marshal Mayor Pete will lead Ukraine to victory.

Now that he's promoted, he surely won't surrender, despite the encirclement. No US Field Marshal has ever surrendered.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Ardennes posted:

A lot of it was emotional rather than logical, the American elite, particularly boomers had grown up being taught that not only the Soviets/Communists were the real threat that must be destroyed, but Russia as a concept. This is something the Russians never really got, they thought they problem was just political, it wasn't. Putin and other Russian liberals hated communism as much as American liberals "lets just be friends etc etc" but a fundamental part of liberalism is indoctrinated racial hatred (and it is), and that just wouldn't go away.

It made more sense for the US to back off and/or at least play Russia off China, they couldn't, and as China economically grew, they became too indispensable, so it eventually became a "everything on Russia" strategy. They aren't going to give up easily on it, but it seems Russia finally figured it out.

I'm pretty convinced by the argument, made by Brian Becker, that the basic driver of the antagonism was that, were Russia allowed into the European club, America's junior partners on the continent would no longer be junior, that a German or Franco-German bloc with Russia would have been the natural development, and the US would have no way to keep them subordinated.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

BadOptics posted:

Lol that the rest of the forum thinks CSPAM is a hotbed of TANKIE Marxist-Leninists and you have people in this thread talking electoralism and the culpability of the electorate as if capitalist "democracy" isn't a sham that benefits the dictatorship of the capitalists/bourgeoisie classes.

Scratch an ultra, and a suburban radlib bleeds, you know.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Liberal moralists don't get to use that word, sorry.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Weka posted:

I don't think the moral framing is helpful and it's easy to strip it from these ideas, but because you used it I'll keep it. Nobody is saying one American can stop the war machine. You could stop paying taxes. One less bomb, one less dead innocent.
Perhaps an example less personal would help. What was the moral responsibility of German civilians for the holocaust?

Worth noting that the strongest impetus towards an abstract monolithic collective national responsibility for the crimes of Nazi Germany tends to come most strongly from those forces that, either out of general capitalist / imperialist ideology, their own class interests, or in some cases more narrowly for Zionist reasons, would really rather not get into the concrete details of who did what.
After all, if everyone's guilty, well, can't really do away with all the Germans. If, on the other hand, a certain class, a certain mode of production, a certain state's political and military leaders and their monopoly capitalist backers bear some specific responsibility...

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
Interesting discussion:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z1DDUyNUHQ8&feature=share

"In the days after the attempted coup by the Wagner mercenary group in Russia, what do we know? The Western media coverage was generally drooling. Why did Yevgeny Prigozhin start an armed coup attempt against the Russian government? Was the US involved?"

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

During WW2 the Japanese made a lot of leaflets with cartoons on them depicting ANZAC girlfriends & wives cucking them with American soldiers at home, while they trudged through the jungles of New Guinea.

My grandad remembered these pornographic leaflets in New Guinea quite fondly. More for the lewd imagery, but quite a bit for the laughing at the Aussies: though he respected them very much as soldiers, their attitudes towards other races struck him as monstrously psychotic.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Nix Panicus posted:

It cannot be emphasized enough how 2 wasnt just a 'reasonable' position but the absolute iron clad reality proven over and over that Europeans were useless cowards at best and more likely traitorous beasts like Poland

There is literally a memoir of a French general staff officer who was part of the final military mission to the USSR, where he writes that they literally admitted this to their shocked Soviet counterparts: "We have been sent with no authority to promise even a strictly defensive alliance. In the event that we do go to war, we commit to taking no substantial action whatsoever. We are probably not even capable of doing so anyway. Best case scenario, which, again, we do not commit to, you will have to fight 90% of the Wehrmacht on your own." [paraphrased]

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Majorian posted:

My HS history class teacher was cool so we basically spent that part collectively laughing at the Poles sending cavalry out against tanks.

If you actually want a reason to laugh at Poles, you could point to them putting 1/3 of their army in Danzig, where they were absolutely guaranteed to be immediately encircled, no matter what. I think the Germans could have ended up in real trouble, with dangerously slow progress and awaiting Soviet and Western reactions, if not for that gently caress-up.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Frosted Flake posted:

lol more Late Antique trivia: In some surviving pagan accounts but also many early Christian martyrologies, the stories feature civil authorities perplexed by the behaviour of the martyrs, often being lenient and letting them go several times. The Christians practically insisted on being martyred and made themselves an absolute nuisance before the provincial governor or city authority got fed up and executed them. These accounts often feature the persecutors making a speech about how annoyed they were, how they had given the martyr every opportunity to get away, and how they didn't really want to do this, but if they insisted then fine, they can be executed.

It's funny because in the 3rd century everyone thought those were saintly qualities, but if you try to imagine them in the present day...

Fairly certain some Spanish bishops, under al-Andalus, had to put out an official statement that if you insist on forcing extraordinarily tolerant authorities to execute you by blaspheming them in their own mosques, you don't count as a martyr.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

mawarannahr posted:

is Gonzalo also a ufo guy?

He's a vocal Pinochet defender, he's talked openly about his family's ties to high up coup plotters. Frankly, I hope he's experiencing as intimately as possible the policies that he claims "saved his country."

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

celadon posted:

what is the original source of this, was it an egyptian pharoah who had carvings of victories against an enemy that got closer and closer to home? i remember hearing about it but not being able to google it again

Not the original, but likely the inspiration for many current uses is "It Can't Happen Here" where one of the heroes notices that each glorious victory over Mexico that the fascist radio reports is further north than the last.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

BearsBearsBears posted:

I'm not sure your terminology is correct. Workers are proles and proles are workers, even if they're dutch. You're using proletariat to mean a class-conscious worker instead of any worker, something Marx didn't do. Marx even had the term lumpenproletariat for the class of proles that weren't class-conscious and never would be. This group is who the Black Panthers in the US made their base so Marx was probably wrong about that. The Marxist term for proles in the imperial core that align more with their empire than their class is the "labour aristocracy". Nowadays that's also used for highly paid wage workers, doctors and such.

I know I'm a broken record on this, but that's specifically the Sakai-ite term. Although he deliberately presents his definition as Lenin's, gives it in place of Lenin's, his definition not only contradicts Lenin's in the specifics, but is used to draw diametrically opposed lessons for political work.

"Neither we nor anyone else can calculate precisely what portion of the proletariat is following and will follow the social-chauvinists and opportunists. This will be revealed only by the struggle, it will be definitely decided only by the socialist revolution. But we know for certain that the “defenders of the fatherland” in the imperialist war represent only a minority. And it is therefore our duty, if we wish to remain socialists to go down lower and deeper, to the real masses; this is the whole meaning and the whole purport of the struggle against opportunism. By exposing the fact that the opportunists and social-chauvinists are in reality betraying and selling the interests of the masses, that they are defending the temporary privileges of a minority of the workers, that they are the vehicles of bourgeois ideas and influences, that they are really allies and agents of the bourgeoisie, we teach the masses to appreciate their true political interests, to fight for socialism and for the revolution through all the long and painful vicissitudes of imperialist wars and imperialist armistices."

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

BearsBearsBears posted:

Which term? I used a whole bunch of words.

labour aristocracy

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

KomradeX posted:

Wasn't Sakai an FBI informant or something along those lines?

It wouldn't shock me, I mean, he's an unknown western Maoist, with a do-nothing line, published by weird, well-funded Canadian anarchists, but I don't have any concrete basis to make such a claim. Plenty of children of the suburbs, angsty over identity issues, could have written the same stuff with perfect sincerity.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the claim that J. Sakai was an informant is pure hearsay from people who can’t spell Amerikkka with the Triple K.

As I said, I'm not making that claim. The hypothetical motivations of some anonymous Anarcho-Maoist, who calls the PRC a racist colonizer state, who lumps together all the false and real targets of the War on Terror as a unified "pan-islamic fascism," are something I cannot speak to, and do not care about. I'd probably despise him less as an enemy agent, and not some failed intellectual twisting his brain into knots, trying to rationalize his first world angst and preserve a self-image of a real revolutionary having been failed by the masses.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

fizzy posted:

...capturing unspecified territories and claiming partial success...

How can they be this bad at propaganda?

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

DancingShade posted:

Failkids of failkids. Talent is wholly unrelated to getting the job.

It's got to be worse than just that, you can train very poor quality people better than this.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
BreakThrough's Dispatches has an interview with Roman Kononenko, a member of the Presidium of the Central Committee of the KPRF and First Secretary of the Saint Petersburg City Committee of the KPRF:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRuDwuv36z4

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

crepeface posted:

he didn't make the best impression. probably some degree of difficulty with English but I still wish he went into more detail.

also, I don't think he addressed the question about Russian fascist/Nazi elements funding right wing parties in Europe.

He goes more into depth overall in the full version of the interview, but no, he didn't answer that part of the question, whether that was deliberate, or he was just focused more on answering the part about right wing groups in Russia, I don't know.

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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

fizzy posted:

Good news for Ukraine - Ukraine has made progress in its shifting of goal-posts and counteroffensive against Russian forces simply by proving it can push back a better-armed and numerically superior enemy
- Ukraine has made progress in its counteroffensive against Russian forces simply by proving it can push back a better-armed and numerically superior enemy, a senior Ukrainian official said on Tuesday.
- But Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar brushed aside any suggestion that Kyiv’s progress was too slow, and said Ukraine had effectively defied military doctrine by attacking an enemy that has a numerical advantage in manpower and weaponry.
- “It’s incorrect to measure this advance by metres or kilometres,” Maliar said in an interview. “What’s important is the very fact that despite everything, we’re moving forward even though we have fewer people and fewer weapons.”


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-putin-drone-strike-latest-b2397018.html#post-1294742

Ukraine defies odds by advancing in counteroffensive

Ukraine has made progress in its counteroffensive against Russian forces simply by proving it can push back a better-armed and numerically superior enemy, a senior Ukrainian official said on Tuesday.

Ukrainian troops have faced vast Russian minefields and trenches in the counteroffensive launched in early June, and a US official said last week it looked unlikely that Kyiv would be able to recapture the strategic southern city of Melitopol.

But Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar brushed aside any suggestion that Kyiv’s progress was too slow, and said Ukraine had effectively defied military doctrine by attacking an enemy that has a numerical advantage in manpower and weaponry.

“It’s incorrect to measure this advance by metres or kilometres,” Maliar said in an interview. “What’s important is the very fact that despite everything, we’re moving forward even though we have fewer people and fewer weapons.”

She said she was unaware of any Western pressure being exerted on Ukraine‘s military to accelerate operations, and challenged the idea of a universally “correct” tempo.

What's important to understand about my drinking "problem" is that my liver has not yet completely disintegrated, and therefore everything is fine, and there is nothing unhealthy about a 750ml daily gin ration.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO-VFDYy9Rk

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

fizzy posted:

Retired U.S. General David Petraeus, on 24 August 2023:

Even a broken clock, and all that

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZhF8KrtRo

As the much-hyped Ukrainian counter-offensive fails to produce major military breakthroughs, officials in the West are becoming concerned that their proxy war against Russia is not going according to plan. But instead of negotiating a lasting peace, the instinct of the war makers is the opposite – double down on massive arms shipments, and insist that Ukrainians die in even larger numbers.

Brian Becker is joined by Walter Smolarek, the editor of Liberation News.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Orange Devil posted:

Well this just proves the Clean Wehrmacht.
Ironically,

Erhard Milch posted:

I spoke to Himmler recently about this, and told him his main task must be to see to the protection of German industry if unrest breaks out among this foreign scum.

If, for instance, there is a mutiny at X, an officer with a couple of men, or a lieutenant with thirty troops, must appear in the factory and let fly with their machine-guns into the mob. The object is to lay out as many people as possible, if mutinies break out. This is the order I have issued, even if the people are our own foreign workers.

Every tenth man is to be picked out, and every tenth man will be shot in front of the rest."

quote:

Following Hitler's suicide, Milch attempted to flee Germany, but was apprehended by Allied forces on the Baltic coast on 4 May 1945. On surrendering, he presented his field-marshals' baton to British Brigadier Derek Mills-Roberts, who was so disgusted and angered by the atrocities he had seen when liberating the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp that he demanded to know Milch's thoughts on the terrible sights witnessed. Milch's reply (in English) was "these people are not human beings in the same way as you and me". This so infuriated Mills-Roberts that he seized the Field Marshal's baton from under Milch's arm and proceeded to brutally beat Milch with it over the head until it broke, afterwards switching to a champagne bottle. The following day, Mills-Roberts went to Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery to apologise for losing his temper with a senior German POW, only for Montgomery to cover his head with his hands in mock self-protection and joke "I hear you've got a thing about Field Marshals", with nothing more said regarding Mills-Roberts' indiscretion. The incident left Milch with several contusions and a fractured skull.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Officer Sandvich posted:

Stop treating the NATO excuse like it is anything real. NATO has been on Russia's border since its founding (Norway). Russia now has a vastly longer border with NATO than they did at the start of the war, and all they have done is continue to drain military resources from that border to use them in Ukraine. Russia is not afraid of NATO being on their border. What caused the war is that they view Ukraine as the natural slave of Russia, and they want to punish disobedience and exploit them as a colony, just like most of the rest of Russia outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg.

And for people still clinging to the NATO idea: if that was Russia's issue, then it was solved after 2014, because NATO was not going to let in a country at war with and occupied by Russia. Yet that did not stop them from full scale invasion. Russia has not been subtle about this people, Putin made a big speech about how they couldn't let Ukraine escape their grasp, oh I'm sorry 'slavic brotherhood and history', their propagandists have filled the airways with how Ukraine and the idea of Ukraine must be erased. It's not NATO. It was never NATO.

One would think that even an especially stupid liberal would be able to just look at a map, and understand why "having NATO on the border" with Ukraine is not exactly comparable with "having NATO on the border" with Norway.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Tom Guycot posted:

I'm still not sure i've ever adequately accepted the reasons people give for why, given china was always in the crosshairs, they did so much to push russia away instead of letting them join nato, make them another euro vassel, fill them with nato basses on the chinese border, make them buy f-35s and bradley's to degrade their local arms industry, further isolate china from resources, etc.


Like they knew china was the long term threat but for some reason seemingly did everything they could to push russia together with them. Why were they so unwilling in the 2000's to embrace a russia as pawn against china?

Iraq under Saddam Hussein was basically a US ally and a useful counterweight to independent Iran, even so, America deliberately destroyed the whole state apparatus, killed millions, and destabilized the region. With the Soviets gone, allies with the capacity for independent action were totally unacceptable, and getting Russia on-board with the US empire would have required treating it as an ally, not a subject. Not to mention, at risk of repeating myself, the long-term likelihood of an emergent French-German-Russian bloc that could well have been an equal power, not just an independent regional force - from the point of view of US capitalism, the existance of a foreign capitalist rival that strong is about as unacceptable as a socialist one.

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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Frosted Flake posted:

People forget that the US 100% set Iraq up for the Persian Gulf War. I'm blown away by how little they even tried to hide it, at the time.

I want to draw attention to "French-German-Russian bloc" because it reminds me of British continental politics from 1700-1914 where preventing those countries from ever being on the same side was pretty much the only firm diplomatic position the British ever had when it came to Europe. They moved heaven and earth, fought (or funded) several wars, to make sure it remained that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXb7do9C-w

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
https://twitter.com/BTnewsroom/status/1706753645512212520

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Ytlaya posted:

Every time I see Rania Khalek's news thing linked it's always some genuinely good/interesting interview like this.

BTNewsroom is reliably solid, she and Puryear are great on Dispatches, and the Socialist Program is excellent as well.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Endman posted:

I keep seeing stickers around where I live with the three downward arrows and "Fascists gently caress Off" written on them. I don't think I have the heart to tell whoever is putting them up about 1919.

I once stumbled across a tweet ranting against my party, that I was 99% certain, from the specifics of the complaint and the location of the complainer, was based on my own personal refusal to hold up an anarchist's Iron Front banner for him. Funnily enough, the three arrows didn't even enter into my decision, instead I had refused because I was on security duty, and we were outnumbered by the off-brand proud boys the anarchists were doing their best to start a brawl with in front of the cops, but he sure was mad about my "sectarianism"

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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Best Friends posted:

90% of Rs skeptical of Ukraine are just skeptical because dems like it. the other 10% think russiagate is true but it’s good actually. there’s imo basically 0 actual opposition. The Dems destroyed all their anti war contingent and the Rs are only open to skepticism on a pure partisan basis that by its nature and design will dissolve in contact with any power.

I doubt they have any actual pull in the party, but there are definitely more "internationalist" white nationalists, who would be willing to cut a deal with Russia, and allow Europe (meaning Germany, maybe France to a degree, under Le Pen, but definitely primarily Germany) more independence, if it meant a stronger united front in the coming war against the PRC and the third world. Thankfully, the American state has been so nakedly perfidious that even Russian oligarchs are not, for the most part, going to fall for that.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

MonsieurChoc posted:

Is there any kind of left wing movementleft in Ukraine at this point?

I imagine the primary focus of the activity of any genuine Ukrainian left is, at this point, avoiding the attention of the local state-sanctioned gangs of methed up neo-Nazis with American guns.

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Comrade Koba posted:

Special ability: Lay on Invisible Hand

"Ah, there you go."
"What?"
"There is now a market incentive to provide you with access to medical treatment, dependent, of course, on your ability to pay."

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

Clip-On Fedora posted:

lol that's just the Hydra logo

Slava Hydra

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
Bespoke super hot cartridges with two piece cases, that wear the rifles out faster than anything previously known to man, and that require a silencer on every rifle to be shootable, seem like a tough grift to top.

(edit: at least as far as small arms go)

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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
This Marxist in the belly of the beast asks why would I give a flying gently caress about a comrade's theology?

The question is their political economy, their historical worldview. Atheists can be and have been some of the worst idealistic metaphysicians that ever sullied our godless earth. The earliest respectable attempt at a materialist historical theory I'm aware of was written by a devout Muslim. Whether a comrade thinks about the struggle in material terms or not, is infinitely more important than, and not neatly correlated to, whatever they imagine about the heavens.

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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

All of this to say, "Totalitarianism" as constructed by Arendt, and the whole traditional narrative of the Third Reich where "Good Germans" were just as oppressed as anyone else, living in a total surveillance state where they could be killed at any moment, which has passed into pop culture, 1984, whatever, it was all a lie. The Nazis did not have the resources to repress their population, and we know from their own internal communications that they were not willing to carry out policies against public opposition. Truthfully, they didn't face public opposition, they had public support. It just so happened that we needed that same public to fight the communists, so we lied on their behalf.

This is a great post, but I do think it's worth emphasizing that it was the respectable middle class population that they were not in a position to repress. Repressing the working class population was exactly what they were put in power to do.

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