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cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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it's unfortunate for everyone, most of all Madeley, that the thief didn't steal his blond hair dye instead.

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cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Jesus posted:

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 But that's you bitches. If any motherfucker tries that poo poo on Me, I'll crucify them My Goddamn self.

cat botherer fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Dec 2, 2023

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

That graphic is so daft. Sorry, but that is desperate. The terrible craze of children crouching in front of parked cars in a mist of blood.
yeah SUVs are great. The problem is everyone else trying to get intentionally cut up by them, and stupid children on sidewalks where the SUVs are trying to go. Honestly, I think a lot of it comes down to anti-landlord sentiment.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

Wtf is a sidewalk?
pavement

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Guavanaut posted:

Remember 5 years ago when it was

young people just love being patronized by boomers

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Jeherrin posted:

A few years back I was going over to the US to see my then wife and stay with her and my mother in law over Christmas. I quite liked my mother in law. I mentioned this in a group meeting of my team and my boss, who made a fairly standard mother-in-law joke. My response was to poker-face it and ask him to explain the joke. There was quite a lot of silence.

gently caress casual misogyny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53q4pqkEp_w

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Guavanaut posted:

Apparently many of the prisoners of war were pretty well fed compared to the people on ration books*. Especially the officer types because code of conduct and what not.
Plus there was the endless fun of playing all sorts of goofs and hijinks on the hapless guards

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Diet Crack posted:

"UK economy shrinks unexpectedly as households feel squeeze
GDP fell by 0.3% in October as Bank of England prepares to keep interest rates on hold"

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/13/uk-economy-shrinks-unexpectedly-as-households-feel-squeeze

There are people who get paid 150k as analysts for this poo poo.
What the gently caress do you mean unexpectedly?
Economists are capitalism's number-priests. Accuracy or scientific rigor are irrelevant.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Guavanaut posted:

That's a whole wing of the League of Disappointing Authors.


What did Hemingway do besides being a sadbrained raging alcoholic?

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Angrymog posted:

Sadly, the bing image creator refused the prompt "Kier Starmer dressed in British army uniform purposefully striding towards his shorter wife, whilst pointing at something and drinking a pint". It even refused politician. I had to use 'white male' so would need to bother to photoshop Starmer's head on the results. Which is too much effort.

Here's the best one. The shorter wife seems to be a cyborg though.

https://www.bing.com/images/create/...DP&mode=overlay
some of those wives are barely shorter

:sad:

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Guavanaut posted:

Enjoying my 0.756 bottle Wanka of champagne.
sounds like the perfect champagne for you!

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Clyde Radcliffe posted:



30p Lee telling three schoolchildren he could make their lunches for less than a quid.
just workshopping a modest proposal for cost-effective school lunch food sourcing

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Jakabite posted:

My beautiful old Labrador Lexi might be dying :( she’s off to the vets this afternoon to find out what’s up with her. She’s still able to go on little walks but hasn’t been eating the last few days apparently, except rice pudding and some of her favourites. I hope I’m just being daft and she’s just sick as does happen from time to time but I am, nonetheless, sat crying in my car in the Sainsbury’s car park. Hold your beloved pets close.
:(

Give Lexi a belly rub for me.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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A modern wood stove should dump very little smoke back into the room. It’s not nothing, and still harmful, but nowhere near an older lovely stove, or worse, an open hearth. They’re also much more efficient. Open hearths can in some circumstances make your house colder due to the amount of air they suck in from the outside.

I had a catalytic stove at an old place I had that I actually used for most of the winter heating, because it was much cheaper than the garbage baseboard heaters the place had.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Nothingtoseehere posted:

While modern ones are better at not polluting the room, they still significantly increase air pollution outside your house and affect local air quality - and the air inside your house is just a product of the air outside your house at the end of the day.

Wood fires are cozy and warm and lovely. They also are bad for local air pollution which has a noticeable effect on respiratory health, especially of small children and the elderly. It just didn't use to matter when half the population was smoking themselves and others around them to death anyways, but now it's more prominent.
Yeah it’s bad if significant numbers use it, and wood as a fuel doesn’t scale up. Modern wood stoves aren’t quite so bad with particulates as old ones, but still not great.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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keep punching joe posted:

Is that Dyson prick on the flight logs?


Just the normal right to privacy you have when there’s evidence of you abusing children.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Miftan posted:

I don't know where you're at now, but I know several people who take meds for anxiety and they've all said it's been a life changer. Yes, there are side effects. They vary from person to person and you can stop if it doesn't feel worth it (though usually not cold turkey! Consult your doctor!), but for symptoms as severe as you're describing I would definitely look into it. Worst case, you write it off. Best case, you have some mild nausea after meals every now and then and stop having 3 day panic attacks.
Anxiety meds are definitely worth trying, but their efficacy wears off pretty quick for a lot of people. Most of the time, therapy is what really can bring lasting improvements. Anxiety meds are better at delivery results quickly, which can be very important, even if the long-term efficacy is mediocre.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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I sometimes smoke this heavily CBD-dominant cannabis, with almost no THC. It works pretty good, especially before bed. Any significant amount of THC spikes my anxiety in most contexts. Unfortunately, very CBD-dominant weed is hard to find in even places where weed is legal. I'm amazed that THC actually helps some people's anxiety. Goes to show how different people's brains can be.

fuctifino posted:

But medicines are only a softner, and the triggers of anxiety need to be addressed head-on, at least from my own experience
Yep.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Bobby Deluxe posted:

I mean cortisol on its own has some pretty horrifying effects on the brain. I think it was you that posted about how bad dental health is linked to minor dementia symptoms. And neuroplasticity decreases with age, so I've always had a pet theory about how that's what makes it so much harder* for older people to learn new things without their brain overloading with cortisol and blocking the process of forming new memories.
Cortisol is a motherfucker. I get that it's important to modulate the immune system, but its "not doing great? Let's gently caress up absolutely everything in the body up to reduce your fitness even more!" function is kind of mystifying.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Wachter posted:

Did anyone say Subterranean Hasidic Jews yet
Their new album is fantastic.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Tigey posted:

Next we'll find out they've been sharing each others' sex arses
We’ve all got to make sacrifices given the Red Sea situation.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Darth Walrus posted:

They basically just sprayed the coastline with Tomahawk missiles, which is (a) unlikely to be effective against targets as mobile as missile launchers and drones, and (b) unlikely to indicate a serious, long-term military investment by America, since they're using a weapon with highly limited ammunition that doesn't require them to risk human pilots. This was all a bit performative.
It does essentially nothing to degrade the Houthis’ capabilities while making the Red Sea even more dangerous for shipping. Not to mention further inflaming the ME against both the great and lesser Satan.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

why did biden do it?
because he’s a senile Zionist moron :ssh:

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Jesus Christ, I didn’t see that Fetterman quote. Every time I think that guy can’t get worse.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

It's almost as if everyone got a little bit of Kissinger when he died.
As long as we keep massacring civilians, the spirit of Kissinger will never die :)

I’m absolutely confused at what people think doing a few air/missile strikes in Yemen will do. They’ve been bombed for years and are doing just fine. Aside from that, NATO has had a total collapse in arms production. Between this garbage and Ukraine, there aren’t enough missiles to go around. Not to mention the UK’s inability to deploy a carrier due to staffing shortages.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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fuctifino posted:

Given the lack of childcare places, have the Navy considered combining the two and solving the staffing issues that way?
That would significantly increase the risk of friendly fire from the Israelis.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Bobby Deluxe posted:

So the government has been advertising its guidance on XL Bullies in the leadup to the ban, and surprise surprise, it's completely vague and includes 3 completely unhelpful images at the bottom.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog

Those are staffies! They look exactly like staffies, particularly the second one, and the 3rd one is the only one that looks even slightly like an XL bully.

The guidance and the advice all concerns what to do if you know you have a bully, but there is zero guidance for what to do if your dog is not a bully, but is tall enough to hit the height qualification - which is basically the only objective measurement in the new standard.

Oh, and it costs 90 quid to apply for a certificate of exemption, but you can only get one if your dog is an XL breed. If your dog might fit that criteria, it doesn't look like there's any way to preemptively exempt it.

In response to the criteria and the cost of the certificates, there's been a huge upsurge in people abandoning staffies and bulky breeds.

Tw for extreme animal cruelty: Apparently XL breeders have been burning the dogs in protest, and a bully was found with its legs tied together having been mutilated to death, but the only source I can find for that is the scum, so take with a pinch of salt.

I know I've said about this before when the criteria was first announced, but especially with the pictures it's loving useless and is actively endangering a whole bunch of other dogs covered by its vagueness.
These dogs are XL BULLYS, like the kind that used to beat you up in the schoolyard, but American and also dogs instead of humans! And the bastards that are breeding these monsters are setting them on fire! Will this madness never end!?

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I was thinking of that exact article, lol. She also wondered how people could just drive past without performatively honking or dipping their lights in respect, then made up a story about how she got to the toll bridge and someone gave her 50p and said "don't worry, we're not all monsters" completely unprompted.

I'll have to dig it up, it was deliriously stupid.
http://theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2011/jan/19/dailymail-joanna-yeates

quote:

I don’t have 50p and try tossing 30p and a White Company button into the bucket. It doesn’t work.

There is now an angry queue behind me. Isn’t it interesting that you can snatch a young woman’s life away from her in the most violent, painful, frightening way possible, take away her future children, her future Christmases, take away everything she loves, and yet there are elaborate systems in place to ensure you do not cross a bridge for only 30 pence?

Finally, a man in a taxi jumps out, and runs to me brandishing a 50p piece.

‘Not all men are monsters,’ he says, grinning. Maybe not. But one monster is all it takes.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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My older brother got me a sweet-looking mall katana when I was like 7. It had no edge to it whatsoever, but ninja poo poo was huge back then and I was the only kid in the neighborhood with a sword.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Re the incontinence maybe he meant fecal or anal (which are different) which can be a result of anal sex?

We used (use still I assume - we did 17 years ago) chains as a measurement all the time in the railway.
Fecal incontinence is never the result of anal sex unless it involves excruciatingly painful and severe trauma. I'm guessing the incontinence has mostly to do with poor diets giving people chronic diarrhea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEwjogp4wIo

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Mano posted:

The LLM / network isn't really compiled but trained. You could certainly have the training program (which might be compiled but e.g. Python often isn't compiled) log it's input (picture name, size, checksum, description, url, ?). But since you don't necessarily have the pictures themselves afterwards, this does not prove everything.
And obviously even small changes in the picture change most of the logged values.
The description of the picture might be wrong, but then via other things might get linked to the real thing.

also this leaves out that you can't remove a picture afterwards if you should find out that it was copyrighted.


E: this stuff is not my specialty, I learned somethings like 20 years ago and I have friends who use it (on own data).
:actually:, the popular DL packages do actually compile the model graphs. But yeah, that won't help with logging the training data (which people would have every incentive to bullshit anyway).

Sometimes these models can actually output almost exact copies of some of their training data. This paper shows some examples for Stable Diffusion, but I've seen similar results with generative LLMs. However, that's still impossible to do at scale, and models certainly never copy the vast majority of their training examples (it would be information-theoretically impossible).

mossyfisk posted:

Just make them provide the source images and literally have someone from a regulatory body watch to confirm it's what they feed into the big GPU racks or whatever. Keep a copy archived for when you want to check rights etc. I don't think there's actually a technical barrier?
That would be impractical, especially with how much training goes on, and the sheer volume of images or w/e.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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mossyfisk posted:

It can be done, the models are built using exactly such archives of image data - it's certainly within the capability of the state. These companies simply want to pretend it's impossible and skimp on accountability. It would be more expensive to comply with these hypothetical regulatory processes, but so what? They couldn't sell a product that doesn't pass, so they'd have to either comply or shut down.
It is possiible, but not practical. Training datasets can be changed over time, and it's easy to lie about what a model is trained with. It's not only big tech companies doing this training either, it's also oodles of small companies and individuals (you can fine-tune a lot of models on a decent laptop). Think of how hard it is to enforce copyright on the internet when it comes to literal copies on places like Pornhub or even Youtube. This is much harder. It's not like you can have a guy watching over the shoulder of everyone training these models.

I'm not saying this is good. It isn't. Large companies with more to lose would probably be easier to bring into a decent degree of compliance, but ultimately the genie is not going back in the bottle.

cat botherer fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jan 29, 2024

cat botherer
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OwlFancier posted:

You can't technically prove that someone didn't independently invent something but if you come out with a copy of someone else's work you're still gonna get done for copyright infringement.

I don't see why that would be any different because you invented a complicated machine to generate the thing. If it shits out something that is plagiaristically close to someone else's work then rinse the bastards for it.
Realistically, they could get got for things like outputting Mario or the Coke logo. However, that's only going to work for things like logos or copyrighted characters that show up *a lot*. Individual artists or writers would rarely have their work outputted verbatim, so it would be nearly impossible to prove that their work was used in training.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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Jedit posted:

While I appreciate the effort, how did you fit yourself into the Kinder Surprise egg?
they put the ticket in the egg, shoved that up their rear end, and then presented it at the entrance like you normally do. You're really overthinking this.

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cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

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My cat has really good claw control on bare skin, but he thinks that the thinnest layer of fabric is impenetrable armor. His latest thing is to hide underneath the bed behind overhanging sheets and attack my feet. This is him in beverage cat mode:

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