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Honestly CJ Stroud feels like the Ballard Draft pick.
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Feb 16, 2023 14:44
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I thin the Seahawks are in a position where I probably draft like one of the Toolsy QB's, maybe Hendon Hooker in the second or third. And let him sit behind Geno for at least a year or two
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Feb 18, 2023 03:32
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I generally think Young is the best talent, if you think you have the ability to protect him. If you have concerns about your line or offensive scheme take Stroud lol.
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Feb 22, 2023 18:42
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Yeah, kinda willing to let the whole Sean Payton thing play out. As it might just turns out Hackett is loving trash. and an even competent offensive coach will have Russ playing at least as well as he did a couple of years ago.
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Feb 23, 2023 06:29
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Docjowles posted:This would be double comedy since it means it doesn't even matter who the Jets end up with at QB, their offensive scheme will be so bad it drags even Rodgers or Carr down below the waves. tbf, it's not particularly hard to make the Pro Bowl  Mitch Made one.
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Feb 23, 2023 07:19
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The distant third QB is whoever the person leaking this information to these reporters actually want lol. Like if I had any faith in the bears front office being competent I would think they did a masterful job completely tanking Fields' draft status to get him to fall to where he did lol. The guy, who clearly was the second best prospect in the draft.
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Feb 24, 2023 19:34
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I cannot wait til we get to the stage like 3 weeks from now where we somehow listening to reporters and insiders talk like Levis and Richardson are QB1A and QB1BKalli posted:It's the best part of listening to Robert Mays is him openly calling whomever you think the #1 prospect is a true generational talent, franchise rockbed cornerstone that you absolutely have to secure the bag to get. Long suffering Bears fan Robert Mays knows what's up
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Feb 24, 2023 19:37
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1630176143109246978 Thanks Schefty would have never known lol
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Feb 27, 2023 13:09
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1 percentile exceptions always exist. Bryce would be a exception in both height and weight. He seems like, he has at least the talent to be that exception. You just absolutely have to protect him. The Bears drafting him for example would be a warcrime in 70% of the world.
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Feb 27, 2023 17:15
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Black Lighter posted:It would be interesting if the Lions or the Seahawks took him and just benched him for a year for the sake of giving him time to bulk up. Otherwise, I'm not sure he'd be able to make it through his rookie year in one piece. If the League fucks up and lets Bryce fall to the Lions without a trade up I am going to be livid.
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Feb 27, 2023 17:28
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mastershakeman posted:yeah, Hurts was 6'1 flat wasn't he? But had legendary lower body strength in college and had no durability concerns. yeah Hurts is legitimately a tank. It's why that Sneak is like 100% effective.
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Feb 27, 2023 18:04
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It's why I laughed when people are so confused about why Bryce Young isn't doing anything at the combine. Like that dude hasn't been like mainlining food to get up to 200 pounds for the past 2 months.
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Feb 27, 2023 19:17
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That dude is going to drink like 2 gallons of water before weighing in.
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Feb 27, 2023 19:20
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Draft podcasters think he’s gonna get weighed at the combine and do nothing else at the combine. that is for sure What I would recommend he do. Which honestly is silly, because front offices know what the gently caress is going on with him, and yet they still might be swayed in their decision making because he weighed in at (what everyone knows is a) bullshit 210 pounds at the combine, rather than his normal like 185 pounds or whatever. But that 210 on a piece of paper might make it more palatable for them to pull the trigger. In a allows them to lie to themselves sort of way. So they can put their hand in their ears and take probably the most talented thrower in the draft despite him being smaller than Mina Kimes. Dexo fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Feb 27, 2023 |
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Feb 27, 2023 19:26
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https://twitter.com/brownchubbybear/status/1630925564960800769 https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1630939605007572993 oooooof https://twitter.com/SethWEmerson/status/1630945655781728257 This should be interesting Jalen Carter is talking sometime later today. Dexo fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 15:43
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Mar 1, 2023 16:48
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Kalli posted:Not knowing anything about players, go back a page and check the mock... oh 4th overall. I dunno that it'd be a whoopsie. I believe the cynical term would be extreme upside benefit for some team because of him falling. Like if you want to completely remove any sort of human sympathy and emotion, and just make a cold calculated Football decision. Extremely doubt it'd be a long term problem drafting him. He's like the first or second best prospect in the draft lol. You'd just have to be willing to completely eat the PR hit, bank on him just being a stupid 21 year old who was driving recklessly and someone who he was racing with in another car was drunk(maybe him too) and died. At least with the current information, maybe more comes out but yeah. Like He wouldn't be the first sports player to drive recklessly, and potentially drunk, and he won't be the last, plenty of them are in the league now, and they just got buried by various police departments because "no harm no foul", or they got community service. Shout out to Lance Briggs lol. This is sadly more than likely just going to end up being section in an athletic/ESPN piece in 2 years about how he was so immature as a 20/21 year old, and how he has grown up and matured(and become a great Defensive Tackle which is the actual main thrust of the piece, please ignore how people died.)
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Mar 1, 2023 18:10
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Nodoze posted:It's less bad than drafting someone like Matt Araiza or willingly signing Greg Hardy, but still not a great look. Maturity Issues during and before the draft. Off the Field Adversity, is when he's playing well, and as such is "overcoming it" Character concerns and issues don't pop up unless he's playing poorly after being drafted.
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Mar 1, 2023 18:22
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Apples McGrind posted:I dunno, i feel like if Laremy Tunsil smoking weed out of a gas mask bong hurt his draft stock, than an incident that got two people killed is probably gonna make more than a few GMs think twice about drafting Jalen Carter. that was 7 years ago. And also like literally the day of the draft. Like, if this Jalen Carter story came out like that Tunsil story did literally during the draft, yeah dude would free fall into the teens/20s Teams are gonna have like 2 more months of information, and the "story" is going to die down. He might fall some, but not past ~10 and even that I doubt.
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Mar 1, 2023 18:27
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Kalli posted:Less then two years away from Ruggs killing someone and ruining his life, but hey, I'm sure GM's will be thrilled to draft this guy in the top half of the first. Yep. My guess is it changes if like it's found out that there was a collision of some sort where Carter hit them. But with the information we have now Jalen Carter is only guilty of reckless driving. The Driver of the other car is the one who crashed, and killed those people in that car(as far as the law is concerned), It'd be difficult to try and get Carter on anything other than reckless driving and racing and maybe drunk driving if they can prove he'd been drinking(which since he ran good luck). The people who died were in the other car, with that driver who was driving recklessly. So yeah, after Carter gets his fine, and like community service for the misdemeanor, some GM is definitely going to draft him.
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Mar 1, 2023 18:38
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The more important Georgia prospect's arrest info. https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1630979917666975760
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Mar 1, 2023 18:44
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Parallelwoody posted:Was there something reported about alcohol being a factor with Carter or are several people in here just adding what they think may be the case? Mostly the Latter, but not the wildest assumption, considering there was a BAC above the legal limit in the people in the other car. It's not that hard to extrapolate that if everyone was together. Then they started racing, that maybe just maybe Carter was also drinking with them. Since Carter ran, they'd have no hard number, and could only like extrapolate from interviewing people whereever they were leaving from. Right now Carter is just being hit with Reckless Driving pretty much.
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Mar 1, 2023 18:48
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Diva Cupcake posted:McShay took a lot of heat back in December for calling out potential character concerns. As he probably should lol, those character concerns were before this event happened, and also specifically related to being a teammate, where like everyone seems to have gotten along pretty well with him by reports. But hey, good on McShay for guessing right lol.
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Mar 1, 2023 18:53
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Sataere posted:I've been looking for the original story by McShay and can't find it. Was it really before this incident? https://247sports.com/Article/Georgia-DL-Jalen-Carter-has-character-issues-that-may-affect-2023-NFL-Draft-stock-Todd-McShay-says-200422872/ This incident happened in the middle of January.
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Mar 1, 2023 18:57
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The entire draft industrial complex is teams feeding poo poo to insiders who report what they say for scoops on information about the teams.
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Mar 1, 2023 21:10
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The Big Jesus posted:https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1499121100927778816?s=46&t=ulQHjJ9JRQDh0UYInWn8sg ? I don't think anyone thought Malik Willis was ready to play anytime soon. He had no business playing this year lol. Was always a 2-3 year project.
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Mar 3, 2023 17:58
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Diva Cupcake posted:That's probably a bit revisionist. There were draft analysts of note projecting him in the top 10 in their mocks from April. Jeremiah had him in the late 1st and Kiper had him to the Steelers at #20 on April 28. Draft Analysts always overstate the non elite QB's. Kellen Mond was mocked in the late first, and he also went in the third. He was actually drafted in the third to a team that had a QB that is signed to a long deal, that is 2-3 year project territory. Also Anthony Richardson people are saying are a project and collection of more traits, him sitting behind like a Geno Smith, for a couple of years makes a ton of sense.
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Mar 3, 2023 18:43
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Mar 3, 2023 18:44
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Diva Cupcake posted:lmao loving lmao
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Mar 4, 2023 19:11
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for what it's worth I think all this Richardson stuff is smoke screening. I take the relative silence on Stroud and Young as those are the dudes people want, but just don't want to tip, as a number of teams might have to trade to get them.
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Mar 5, 2023 03:46
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god Fields and Henry in the same backfield lol.
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Mar 6, 2023 18:12
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Ornery and Hornery posted:How much would Detroit or Seattle have to trade to get up to #1 via Chicago or #3 via Arizona? It's lying szn but...Poles said this to Peter King. quote:Poles spoke softly but urgently in 50 minutes. He was supportive of quarterback Justin Fields, saying “we’ve got to see it through” in giving Fields a chance to be the team’s long-term starter. It’s clear he’s not trading Fields, and he’s not picking a quarterback high in this draft. He left little doubt the Bears will trade the first overall pick and said he’d spoken to three teams at the Combine about a deal. (He wouldn’t identify them.) He said he had enough conversations about a deal to know in swapping first-round picks this year he can get “a ’24 one and a ’25 one” in a major package for a trade. However far down he goes in the draft this year, Poles wants to be sure he gets a “blue player,” his term for a premier first-rounder—and there may be only six or eight of those when the Bears end up setting their board. and yeah, for Detroit to get it it'd have to be a larger surplus. Maybe an extra Second
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Mar 6, 2023 18:30
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ShakeZula posted:There's no way the Bears are getting three 1sts from anyone in the top 5 this year, if they're getting that haul they're moving pretty far down. Yeah that's like Carolina/Falcons range. Or like Washinton. Edit: Caveat. If the Texans and Colts want the same person, some wild poo poo might happen.
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Mar 6, 2023 18:38
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The thing with fields is the Bears should do exactly what the Eagles did. Spend poo poo tons of money making a better team. And if Fields doesn't work out, guess what, you will have a poo poo ton of assets and then also be in a position to draft a QB next year. Hopefully Fields works out, but even if he doesn't The Bears are still in a good position, and then the next QB they have "theoretically" would have a solid nest. Built from the money you've spent this offseason, and the picks you've aquired. Eagles if Hurts didn't turn into what he did would have also been in a position to draft a QB this year, Hurts turned out to be great, and so now they can use their draft capital on other poo poo.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The 2021 Eagles had a baseline level of competence irregardless of Hurts' throwing ability that the Bears are far far away from. The Bears are a weird situation they aren't nearly as bad as they appear....well except the defensive front 7. Offensively They have shown that when people were healthy they can be decently potent. Wide Receivers, if they can somehow get a number one, it moves everyone down a slot Mooney and Claypool, as the 2 and 3 are a good enough crew. Just need to stay healthy. Offensive Line: They desperately need a RT(or LT more realistically and move Braxton) and Center. They have passable guards in Whitehair and Jenkins. I'd maybe also look for an upgrade to Whitehair. Defense, yeah gonna have to make it rain on lineman and linebackers, their secondary is solid enough considering their defensive line and front got negative pressure. But the defense was also a case where trading 2 players, and then EJax getting hurt turned it from an averagish defense to absolutely dire. If you look at the defensive numbers when they had Quinn(despite his lack of numbers, his effect of the defense when he was traded are glaring)and Smith. The Bears last year were a situation where they had like 1/3 of the cap in dead money, so then when everyone got traded or injured(also they clearly started tanking and putting anyone remotely dinged up on IR lol) they were just rolling out a practice squad. A couple of key players can be so powerful in the NFL. Like a number 1 WR or an elite pass rusher/lineman can make regular rear end players so much better because it changes the shape of a defense. And can create advantages for other players. Saw it with Mooney and Allen Robinson, Robinson, not even playing well, simply being on the field tilted the defense enough for Mooney to put up numbers. Vs when Mooney was the clear primary receiver. But shrug too much thinking about the Bears.
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It is very funny that Northwestern was complete rear end and is still gonna have a number of dudes drafted
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Yeah I would not take him before Stroud and probably wouldn't before young unless I was terrified for Bryce Young's life. Would take him before Levis if I could get away with not playing him right away.
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I mean if he reaches his ceiling, it's like best QB ever type stuff. His ceiling is astronomical. Uh, he likely won't tho.
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Silly Burrito posted:Surprised they didn’t want to do multiple trade downs, but that’s a nice haul. Multiple Trade downs is risky, as if your partners QB is gone, then rip you.
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