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Mr Interweb posted:Wait, so were Washington, Jefferson, Madison not real Christians then? Jefferson? The "I have an official copy of the Koran" Jefferson? Yeah, no loving way would he ever bend to the whims of a priest. That was a good moment in US politics. In 2006 it was loving dire for the left, but a Muslim member of congress wanted to use a Koran for the swearing in ceremony the the right wing media lost its mind. Then, it came out that he was going to use Thomas Jefferson's personal copy and suddenly everyone went "Oh, well, how can you have a problem with a book that was owned by a founding father?" and shut the debate down hard. pentyne fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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Jul 1, 2015 04:44
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Republicans posted:Awwww, now they have no reason to allow Baphomet to go up as well. What was the exact wording? Would it be possible to get the Baphomet statue up without the commandments?
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GlyphGryph posted:What was the exact wording? Would it be possible to get the Baphomet statue up without the commandments? The Statnic church that applied for a space for Baphomet said they wouldn't put it up unless the Ten Commandments were there as well. Something about Baphomet symbolizing the reconciliation of the irreconcilable.
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Jul 1, 2015 04:58
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Sounds like conservatives should be all over his poo poo then. Baphomet/Bush 2016! Failing our way to victory!
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Shbobdb posted:Crucial Steps in Combating the AIDS epidemic Funny how a column by the oracle of 20th Century conservative intellectualism, if it were written today, wouldn't meet the standard of any mainstream national media.
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Jul 1, 2015 05:10
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Heritage, not hatred. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/another-historically-black-church-south-carolina-burning-n384876
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Jul 1, 2015 05:38
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It's more they're arguing that laws coming out like "no you can't murder, disenfranchise, and mistreat X demographic anymore, knock it the gently caress off" put restrictions on their behavior and thus makes them less free. Naturally Hannity agreed and encouraged her to continue being fearful since things are only going to get worse.
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beatlegs posted:Funny how a column by the oracle of 20th Century conservative intellectualism, if it were written today, wouldn't meet the standard of any mainstream national media. I'm pretty sure Drudge is still 100% behind the idea of branding every HIV patient on the rear end so no one accidentally gets AIDS. Plenty of mainstream conservative media are still this bad. They just aren't on TV or print anymore.
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beatlegs posted:Heritage, not hatred. Has Fox described these black church burnings as an attack on Christianity yet?
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They'd have to acknowledge blacks as anything but looters and thugs in the first place.
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Animal-Mother posted:Has Fox described these black church burnings as an attack on Christianity yet? At this point "Christian" only means "white people" as far as they're concerned.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:At this point "Christian" only means "white FTFY
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Listened to Levin again tonight (I hate myself!) and he started going off on a tangent about some broadcast personality that has been saying poo poo about him. He said that if he did ONE MORE TIME, he'd devote an hour of his own show airing the dirty laundry of whoever this dude is. Anyone know who the gently caress he's talking about?
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lowercase16 posted:Listened to Levin again tonight (I hate myself!) and he started going off on a tangent about some broadcast personality that has been saying poo poo about him. He said that if he did ONE MORE TIME, he'd devote an hour of his own show airing the dirty laundry of whoever this dude is. Well, he sure doesn't.
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Obdicut posted:Oh man how did I forget that so quickly, that was one of the stupidest things I've ever read in my life, and I've read a lot of Bill Kristol.
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Master Twig posted:I'm honestly surprised there isn't an open movement on the right in this country to alter the 1st Amendment (with a new amendment I suppose) that removes the freedom of religion clause and tears down the separation of church and state. I don't remember the exact number, but a significant number of Americans want Christianity as the official state religion. Generally they just pretend the bits of the constitution guaranteeing the separation of church and state don't exist and are a lie constructed by deceitful liberals. Pretending it says what you want it to say is a whole lot easier than actually changing it to say what you want it to say
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Reminds me of a guys shirt I saw a few years back. "It's freedom of religion, not freedom from religion."
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It's freedom of Sharia Law, not freedom from Sharia Law. 
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Eh, don't know if it fits here, but saw this gem on Google News: Jim Carrey Brands California Governor "Corporate Fascist" Over Vaccine Law. Apparently the years being with Jenny McCarthy did do something; delayed onset downs syndrome is a thing, right? Also, he wants to make it clear that he's pro vaccine, but anti neurotoxin. ~~words have no meaning~~
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lowercase16 posted:Listened to Levin again tonight (I hate myself!) and he started going off on a tangent about some broadcast personality that has been saying poo poo about him. He said that if he did ONE MORE TIME, he'd devote an hour of his own show airing the dirty laundry of whoever this dude is. It's probably Michael Savage. They've had a dumb feud going for years and years. A few years ago they publicly "buried the hatchet" at CPAC, but it wouldn't surprise me if it flared up again. They both think the other is an arrogant prick, and they're both right! From my perspective it looks like Levin hates feeling like he can't make arguments from authority because Savage has a Ph.D. from U.C. Berkeley while Levin only has a J.D. from Temple University. According to Levin, Savage mentions his Ph.D. too often on the air. Meanwhile, Levin never loving shuts about being a political appointee in the Reagan admin under Edwin Meese and filing amicus briefs to SCOTUS with his lovely legal foundation. Levin is one of the most insecure talk radio personalities I have ever listened to. He literally cannot handle a caller even mentioning the name of another national radio host on his program. He will find an excuse to cut the caller off the second it happens no matter what the person is calling about. He also spends about half of every show plugging his books. I used to think that describing it as "half" was being unfair to him, but then I really started paying attention to it. It literally is nearly half of every show. Another quarter to a third is filled with ads. By my calculation there's probably about 30 minutes of actual content in his show. The rest is either ads, him repeating himself, him arguing with callers who call in to agree with him, or going off on a non-sequitur about the bump-in music. The only reason his show still exists is because his dinner time slot is ratings garbage and he does marginally better than news bulletin repeats. During sports seasons, any of them, he gets pre-empted in lots of markets. He's also not really what you would call a brilliant legal mind despite constantly saying he has important opinions on constitutional matters. He doesn't appear to have ever actually read a supreme court case, and that includes the ones that even people who aren't self-proclaimed legal scholars have read. He's a political hack and his critique of supreme court decisions is always political. He will never ever engage with the text of an actual decision. He is Dunning-Kruger, constitutional edition, writ large. ErIog fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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Master Twig posted:I'm honestly surprised there isn't an open movement on the right in this country to alter the 1st Amendment (with a new amendment I suppose) that removes the freedom of religion clause and tears down the separation of church and state. I don't remember the exact number, but a significant number of Americans want Christianity as the official state religion. They could never ever get 38 states to agree with that as a new amendment for a whole host of reasons, and being forever stuck with like 25 at best would just be embarrassing for them.
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"Thanks" largely to this thread I've started hate-listening to talk radio. 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Evangelicals also believe that literally everything that might lead somebody away from The One True Faith is literally the devil deliberately trying to lure people away. A common belief among the fundies is that Earth is a battleground between good and evil (as in, God and Satan) and that we must be vigilant, keep an eye out for the devil's influence, and work to crush it however we can. That's why they hate secular culture and secular ideas so much. They believe somebody saying "it's fine to be gay or not Christian" is being influenced by the devil to say that so he can lure people away from Jesus. He's not joking. I can confirm this. On a related note, here's 81 things that Mike Huckabee has denounced. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/07/01/81-things-that-mike-huckabee-has-denounced/
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AsInHowe posted:He's not joking. I can confirm this. The funniest version of this is E.W. Jackson saying yoga is part of the path to worshipping satan because during yoga you "empty yourself" and satan is happy to fill that void. He tried to walk it back, but his 2008 book was very clear on it. Like, gently caress, you would think stretching and being calm would be pretty non-controversial. Nope. Think again. It's satan tempting you! The thinking appears to be "the only moral X is my X" taken to the extreme and applied to all the minutiae in every piece of your life. edit: That list is a pro click. Holy poo poo. ErIog fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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ErIog posted:It's probably Michael Savage. They've had a dumb feud going for years and years. A few years ago they publicly "buried the hatchet" at CPAC, but it wouldn't surprise me if it flared up again. They both think the other is an arrogant prick, and they're both right! I had swine flu a couple of years back and stayed in bed for a few days. My local radio played an hour or two of Levin before Coast to Coast AM, so I listened to it drifting in and out of fever dreams. For a couple of days straight, he literally read from whatever book he was plugging at the time--not quotes or passages, but page after page for almost the entire show. It was bizarre.
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Had a cousin post a Trump image macro "Why would MSNBC hire liar Brian Williams but fire Trump for speaking his mind" that was hosted by "Fox & Friends". So I am guessing Trump is at least going to pick up a part-time contributor position when his time in the race is over.
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Was watching C-Span this morning, and they were having callers in to discuss Chris Christie's declaration of intent to run. One woman called in and was complaining about how State workers in NJ are the highest paid in the nation, and how "teachers are paid $55,000 to start! This is what we're talking about competing with!" And yet she was a Christie supporter because he seemed like "a good guy." I don't think even she knew the point she was trying to make.
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While profanity can sometimes be the lashing out of a feeble mind, what Huckabee fails to realize here is that it can also be really funKeeshhound posted:And that's a bad thing? I thought most people agreed that teachers probably deserved higher salaries, even across party lines. Yeah but you're not actually supposed to do anything about it. You're just supposed to hope out loud, which is free
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Keeshhound posted:And that's a bad thing? I thought most people agreed that teachers probably deserved higher salaries, even across party lines.  Nowhere in the goddamn country are teachers being paid 55k to start without some incredibly significant footnotes attached.
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Keeshhound posted:I thought most people agreed that teachers probably deserved higher salaries, even across party lines. ahahahahaha
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Jul 1, 2015 16:26
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How many days have Kansas teachers cut from the school year due to budget cuts again?
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Cythereal posted:
They're probably including benefits in the figure somehow.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:ahahahahaha I meant that whenever the subject comes up, people fall over themselves to posture about how criminal it is that the people we entrust our children to are so horribly underpaid, and then nobody does anything about it.
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Keeshhound posted:I meant that whenever the subject comes up, people fall over themselves to posture about how criminal it is that the people we entrust our children to are so horribly underpaid, and then nobody does anything about it. Well Jesus said that money is inherently corrupt and that the rich will burn so it's important that those our children are entrusted to are kept as morally pure as possible
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Epic High Five posted:Well Jesus said that money is inherently corrupt and that the rich will burn so it's important that those our children are entrusted to are kept as morally pure as possible "That's right! If you pay them less, you'll get the teachers who are there because they want to teach, rather than just sit around, spouting liberal nonsense, and getting rich! In fact, that's why I homeschool my children, so they can get the best education possible from my wife!" 
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Karl Sharks posted:They're probably including benefits in the figure somehow. https://www.njea.org/teaching-and-learning/jobs-and-certification/teaching-jobs Based solely on the above link, it seems like there are some school districts that have a 55k+ starting salary. I'm sure getting into one of those jobs is highly competitive, though, and someone with a masters degree getting a starting salary of at least 50k sounds pretty basic to me. No idea what benefits if any they're including in the calc
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Karl Sharks posted:They're probably including benefits in the figure somehow. Or, as I overheard someone arguing, "they only work for 9 months out of the year, so it's like they're really getting paid $50000+ per year."
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