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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf


quote:

After the Trump casinos filed for bankruptcy protection in 2004 for the third time, state officials noticed the company had not been filling out the required schedule for the minimum tax assessment. The Trump casinos had reported losing money and paid a little more than $600,000 in state income taxes in 2002, and only :siren:$1,500 :siren: in 2003. State auditors determined that the Trump casinos should have paid $8.8 million in alternative minimum taxes for those two years, according to court records.


Trump Casino paid $1,500 in taxes for all of 2003

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Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

It's mostly past, but he was talking to the black community as if he was addressing a crowd of suburban white people (which he is) and discussing how the Democrats expect their vote for no return on policy (which is an actual sentiment that I've heard espoused).

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Nocturtle posted:

I suspect a lot of non-Americans from countries with UHC have a hard time understanding how Americans put up with their crappy health care system. I honestly get the politics behind the US system and understand why reform is so hard. However I have to admit to an irrational instinct to personally blame Americans for failing to implement UHC, like are you guys too stupid or something? A bunch of total backwater nations managed to implement single-payer, you can't seriously claim it's impossible in the vaunted US of A etc etc.

Re the Aetna thing, I honestly thought Obamacare was a major win for the insurance industry
. Mandating everyone buy private health insurance and suppressing any sort of public option seemed like an insurance company CEO fever dream. I was completely wrong, they can't even keep up the pretense of the private sector being able to provide health insurance for the entire population. The insurers leaving the exchanges are all but formally announcing they only want to insure people who don't have any real health issues and let the government deal with the rest.

Everything comes down to this quarter's numbers. Looking towards the future and planning is not in the cards because... it's going to affect this quarter's numbers.

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

Boon posted:

It's mostly past, but he was talking to the black community as if he was addressing a crowd of suburban white people (which he is) and discussing how the Democrats expect their vote for no return on policy (which is an actual sentiment that I've heard espoused).

I can't wait for this to be treated as if it's a "serious speech."

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


Phone posted:

Everything comes down to this quarter's numbers. Looking towards the future and planning is not in the cards because... it's going to affect this quarter's numbers.
Like draining a swimming pool with a straw.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
How dare those poor people who've never used insurance in their lives decide to use it now?! Why do they have to be so sickly after decades of ignoring health warning signs?!??!?!

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
More stuff from that casino article

quote:

Mr. Trump and Mr. Christie met in 2002, when Mr. Christie was the United States attorney for New Jersey. Mr. Trump’s sister Maryanne Trump Barry, then a federal judge in the state, had mentioned to Mr. Christie that her famous brother would like to meet him. They struck up a friendship. Mr. Christie was invited to Mr. Trump’s third wedding in 2005, and Mr. Trump was a prominent guest at Mr. Christie’s inauguration in 2010. They have double dated with their wives.

quote:

The company filed an administrative protest with the state, but it was rejected. The company’s lawyers continued to fight the state’s claim in bankruptcy court, arguing that the tax was unconstitutional and that it should not apply to the Trump casinos because they were organized as partnerships.

quote:

In February 2007, Heather Lynn Anderson, a deputy attorney general who specializes in tax cases, filed papers in court saying auditors had discovered discrepancies that raised “numerous additional questions regarding the accuracy” of the Trump casinos’ tax returns. The company had reported lower revenue figures on its tax returns, for example, than on filings with the State Casino Control Commission. Ms. Anderson also wrote that Mr. Trump’s flagship casino, the Taj Mahal, had reported to the casino commission that it paid $2.2 million in alternative minimum assessment tax in 2003, which was not true. The company had paid only $500 in income taxes.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

The Glumslinger posted:

More stuff from that casino article

It's like my birthday every day now! :haw:

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.
You know, I have to say Obama has been terrible for black white relations. These black commentators and journalists aren't even letting white Trump supporters explain to them how stupid they've been. Never would have happened when Trump was a kid.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Boon posted:

It's mostly past, but he was talking to the black community as if he was addressing a crowd of suburban white people (which he is) and discussing how the Democrats expect their vote for no return on policy (which is an actual sentiment that I've heard espoused).

Trump is not trying to convince black people to vote for him, he's trying to convince white people that he (and by extension, they) are not racist.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Dirt posted:

Trump has always been reaching out to African American demographic!

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/765739479139225600


I don't get why he didn't purge his twitter years ago

He can't delete all those bon mots. That a collection of his greatest work, and deleting it would be depriving the world of The Donald.

HorseRenoir posted:

Trump is not trying to convince black people to vote for him, he's trying to convince white people that he (and by extension, they) are not racist.

Don't discount the delusional nature of Trump's great brain, he's absolutely trying to convince black people to vote for him. He's just lovely at it, like most things.

pigz
Jul 12, 2004

Nearly as overlooked as Joe Mauer
CNN is killing the Trump Supporters on the speech. Take seems to be the reach out to African American's was laughable at best, and damaging at worst. The most effective counter from lewendowsky is that his own employer is being unfair.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Gyges posted:

He can't delete all those bon mots. That a collection of his greatest work, and deleting it would be depriving the world of The Donald.

I think if you have a checkmark and you delete too many tweets you lose it. Milo lost his because he set his account to private for a bit, which is explicitly not allowed as well

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Dirt posted:

Trump has always been reaching out to African American demographic!

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/765739479139225600


I don't get why he didn't purge his twitter years ago

There's also the recentish picture of him eating fried chicken KFC brand with a fork.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


SSNeoman posted:

*hand hovers over reset button for "Days since Trump's last gently caress-up" counter*

The single digit display is a money-saver like you won't believe.

*slams button*

Two digit displays. Man some people actually suggested we use two digit displays. Can you believe it? Funny poo poo.

*cries into mellenial anti-american latte*

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

pigz posted:

CNN is killing the Trump Supporters on the speech. Take seems to be the reach out to African American's was laughable at best, and damaging at worst. The most effective counter from lewendowsky is that his own employer is being unfair.

When you say his own employer...

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Ana Navarro, like David Gergen, is someone who I've come to respect much more during this cycle. She just gave one of the most amazing ~25 second shutdowns on the Trump speech in the face of Kayleigh McEnany. I can't really paraphrase it because I've been drinking, but it was enjoyable.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



PhazonLink posted:

There's also the recentish picture of him eating fried chicken KFC brand with a fork.
This one:

https://twitter.com/DanMentos/status/760325742580277252
:harambe:

Nessus fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Aug 17, 2016

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Uranium 235 posted:

Going out on a limb here, but I think he's speaking to a room full of white people.
We have a winner!

https://twitter.com/tamarakeithNPR/status/765737877254836224

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Aww, it makes me sad when I see people take their kids to these loving things. I wouldn't take my kid to a Hillary or Bernie rally.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Really packing in the thousands of silent majority voters there

Yup, now I see that the polls are clearly lying and that the hundreds of people in that room will win the state for Trump

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


SSNeoman posted:

*slams button*

Two digit displays. Man some people actually suggested we use two digit displays. Can you believe it? Funny poo poo.

*cries into mellenial anti-american latte*

What exactly did he do to gently caress up today?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

iospace posted:

What exactly did he do to gently caress up today?

The speech and the casino taxes thing I posted at the top of the page

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Well give me my official Bleeding Heart Liberal card because all this talk about Trump having a serious psychosis seemingly being validated actually makes me feel kind of bad for the guy.


I like the shadenfreude of this election better when I was sure he was just a dangerous evil rear end in a top hat.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

iospace posted:

What exactly did he do to gently caress up today?

He avoided any major gaffes or gently caress-ups, but he also failed to do anything to dig himself out of the massive hole he's already created for himself.

And he's only got 83 days to go...

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Eifert Posting posted:

Well give me my official Bleeding Heart Liberal card because all this talk about Trump having a serious psychosis seemingly being validated actually makes me feel kind of bad for the guy.


I like the shadenfreude of this election better when I was sure he was just a dangerous evil rear end in a top hat.

It's like with Jeb!

He can stop this any time he likes and then return to his life of privilege free of want and scarcity where he will never have to worry about anything until the day he dies

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Trump doesn't have any psychoses that are diagnosable by watching him on tv and any doctor who would claim otherwise would be a quack. Any conditions he has would only be able to be diagnosed in person by a professional with an extended interview/examination.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



DaveWoo posted:

He avoided any major gaffes or gently caress-ups, but he also failed to do anything to dig himself out of the massive hole he's already created for himself.

And he's only got 83 days to go...
It's really less than that, as the NYT pointed out, because absentee and early voting starts in 6 weeks in some places

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



greatn posted:

Trump doesn't have any psychoses that are diagnosable by watching him on tv and any doctor who would claim otherwise would be a quack. Any conditions he has would only be able to be diagnosed in person by a professional with an extended interview/examination.
I'm sure someone can pay Bill Frist to do it

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


The Glumslinger posted:

The speech and the casino taxes thing I posted at the top of the page

How exactly was the speech bad? I missed it and the Trump thread is moving too fast.

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

FuzzySlippers posted:

Hillary could offer to be examined on live TV with Trump and he wouldn't do it.

"The election turned into a hard core porno so gradually we didn't even notice." -us in three months

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

The Glumslinger posted:

Really packing in the thousands of silent majority voters there

Yup, now I see that the polls are clearly lying and that the hundreds of people in that room will win the state for Trump

A lot of that probably has to do with the fact he's speaking in West Bend, not Milwaukee proper.

Let's learn a little about West Bend

quote:

The racial makeup of the city was 94.8% White, 1.0% African American, 0.4% Native American, 0.8% Asian, 1.4% from other races, and 1.7% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.9% of the population.

Well ok. Pretty white, but whatever. Wait, what's this

quote:

In 2009, a controversy arose after a local couple complained to the West Bend Community Memorial Library about the presence of "sexually explicit books" and "books for youth on homosexuality" in the young adult section of the library. A petition called on the library to label the identified books as explicit, move them to the adult section of the library, install Internet content filters on the library's computers, and "adopt a policy to attain balance in the viewpoints of selections (both affirming and opposing) that the libraries carry in issues sufficiently controversial within the West Bend community (i.e. homosexuality). Specifically, we request faith-based and/or ex-gay books affirming traditional heterosexual perspectives be added to the library."

The West Bend Common Council refused to reappoint four library trustees whose terms were ending. One councilman complained that the library board was stonewalling the complaint, while another asserted that the library trustees were not serving the interests of the community “with their ideology.” The council's actions were widely criticized, and local citizens unsuccessfully sought to have the vote rescinded. After a public hearing on the petition in June 2009, the library board voted to reject any restrictions on young adults' access to books in the library.

Four Wisconsin men belonging to the Christian Civil Liberties Union filed a claim against the West Bend library, asking for $30,000 apiece for "emotional distress," and that Francesca Lia Block's book Baby Be-Bop be "burned or destroyed."

Well that explains a lot.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

iospace posted:

What exactly did he do to gently caress up today?

Giving a speech to blacks without a single apparent minority in the crowd, and it just happens to be patronizing and presumptive as well.


Can you imagine how much McCain or Romney would have been much for this?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Is West Bend the suburb where a Mayor toyed with the idea of advertising a corner of the town to blacks to move into, and subsequently got a bunch of death threats and the windows of his car shot out?

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

iospace posted:

How exactly was the speech bad? I missed it and the Trump thread is moving too fast.
It wasn't bad so much as not at all good.

Also, politics aside, it's pretty undeniable that Donald Trump is not good at reading off a Teleprompter.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Epic High Five posted:

Is West Bend the suburb where a Mayor toyed with the idea of advertising a corner of the town to blacks to move into, and subsequently got a bunch of death threats and the windows of his car shot out?

That was New Berlin. West Bend is barely a suburb in that the county it's in is kitty corner to Milwaukee County.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

comes along bort posted:

A lot of that probably has to do with the fact he's speaking in West Bend, not Milwaukee proper.

Let's learn a little about West Bend


Well ok. Pretty white, but whatever. Wait, what's this


Well that explains a lot.

Mad props to that library board. Any time a library faces that sort of challenge, the only correct response is to tell those people to gently caress off.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Selling Trump to African Americans is the boldest poo poo I've ever heard. "Help us attain power and you'll be a distant third in our crosshairs behind Hispanics and anyone we can assume is Muslim. 100 years ago you would have taken that deal!"

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Eifert Posting posted:

Selling Trump to African Americans is the boldest poo poo I've ever heard. "Help us attain power and you'll be a distant third behind Hispanics and anyone we can assume is Muslim in our crosshairs. 100 years ago you would have taken that deal!"

Every bit of sincerity can be found in the fact that this appeal to blacks was held basically in a cornfield 45 minutes from urban Milwaukee to an all white audience

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Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)


The first 20 times I watched this I was thinking "why was Joe Arpaio on SNL in the early 90's?" :psyduck: I didn't know what McLachlan looked like

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