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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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OwlFancier posted:Terrifyingly extreme pacifist. E: around 450 A.D. Anglo-Saxons invaded Britain. This has made a lot of people angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. Rogue AI Goddess fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Kurtofan posted:speaking of, the graun is turning tabloid because of costs A lot of European broadsheets have switched to tabloid format in the last decade or so. I mean yeah they also declined in quality but it's not necessarily related is it
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https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/874678811627053057 No gods, no masters.
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Newspapers are poo poo and belong in the bin. Or as a handy way to start a barbecue.
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Fans posted:https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/874678811627053057 may turned the uk into belgium
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Fans posted:https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/874678811627053057 Do they have any kind of time limit on their faffing about or could they just keep going forever?
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Jun 13, 2017 20:48
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Theresa May laying the seeds for anarchism in the UK.
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How is "gently caress" so high up the list? I've said it in public way too often and haven't heard any angry tuts yet. Admittedly I grew up on American movies, but still.
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Pochoclo posted:How is "gently caress" so high up the list? I've said it in public way too often and haven't heard any angry tuts yet. Admittedly I grew up on American movies, but still. Obviously you live past the watershed.
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Antwan3K posted:A lot of European broadsheets have switched to tabloid format in the last decade or so. I mean yeah they also declined in quality but it's not necessarily related is it I mean it already switched to the Berliner a few years back from originally being a proper broadsheet. These things happen, it's all part of the death of old media (which in turn is happening because of the death of olds).
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Cerebral Bore posted:Do they have any kind of time limit on their faffing about or could they just keep going forever? I guess the Queen could ask another party to form a government. It's all based on tradition and precedent, as far as I know.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Do they have any kind of time limit on their faffing about or could they just keep going forever? When the Queen gets pissed off at them. Really, thats the time limit once she has had enough of the farse of them not even attempting a Queens speech she will then ask the next largest party to i.e. Labour.
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feedmegin posted:You know, I really hope the next election is in October. It'll be the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution, think of the memes! Corbs even looks a bit like Lenin if you squint, especially with that cap on. I forgot to be a pedant about this but suddenly remembered so hurrah for historical pedantry. Useful reminder that the October Revolution begun on November 7th, because Russia was using the Julian calendar until early 1918. Sadly November 7th is a Tuesday this year so it'll probably not be election day.
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Antwan3K posted:A lot of European broadsheets have switched to tabloid format in the last decade or so. I mean yeah they also declined in quality but it's not necessarily related is it Though I guess in this case, I can imagine the Guardian's online popularity and quality influencing the decision as well.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Do they have any kind of time limit on their faffing about or could they just keep going forever? There's no legal limit as far as I can tell, but if this drags on for longer than a month or so then there's definitely going to be a question of confidence in the government. As Parliament resumed today I suppose a vote of no confidence could take place immediately but I'm not sure about that.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Do they have any kind of time limit on their faffing about or could they just keep going forever? I expect this is another thing that we have no answer for because it's never yet happened. EvilHawk posted:There's no legal limit as far as I can tell, but if this drags on for longer than a month or so then there's definitely going to be a question of confidence in the government. As Parliament resumed today I suppose a vote of no confidence could take place immediately but I'm not sure about that. I don't think there can be a vote of no confidence in the Government when the Government technically doesn't exist. gently caress knows what they're all doing in the meantime, probably getting hammered in the Members' Bar.
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ukle posted:When the Queen gets pissed off at them. Really, thats the time limit once she has had enough of the farse of them not even attempting a Queens speech she will then ask the next largest party to i.e. Labour. so never then lol
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forkboy84 posted:I forgot to be a pedant about this but suddenly remembered so hurrah for historical pedantry. Useful reminder that the October Revolution begun on November 7th, because Russia was using the Julian calendar until early 1918. Yes, yes, I did actually know that because I am also a history nerd but no-one else does 
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Kurtofan posted:may turned the uk into belgium Distressing absence of stroopwaffles though.
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namesake posted:Obviously you live past the watershed. I had a hearty laugh when I first learned what "watershed" meant in broadcasting, it just made so little goddamn sense in my head to use nautical tide terms for the minor protection band.
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Jun 13, 2017 20:59
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Labour need to announce their alternative Queen's speech on the 19th anyway so that a) they can say "well we're ready" and b) pre-empt the lovely Tory one with positive proposals
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Jun 13, 2017 20:59
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R. Mute posted:It kinda is. Switching to tabloid format usually means other, less visible forms of cutting costs have already been implemented. Broadsheets are generally a bit touchy about making the switch to tabloid format, even though the distinction is basically meaningless now. But if they're at the point where their hand is being twisted, well, that's not a good sign. r mute! how the hell have you been man? it's been forever
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Julio Cruz posted:I don't think there can be a vote of no confidence in the Government when the Government technically doesn't exist. gently caress knows what they're all doing in the meantime, probably getting hammered in the Members' Bar. Might as well make the most of those £2 Eggs Benedict while they can
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Jun 13, 2017 21:00
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Oh my, how do I get myself one of those wonderful jam man tags??
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Jun 13, 2017 21:01
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The longer this poo poo stretches on the weaker it makes May look and also makes the idea of the deal more and more unpopular. Here's hoping they drag it out till next month. 
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Jun 13, 2017 21:05
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The 26th as the Queens speech means it wouldn't be voted on until the 4th July at the earliest.
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Skarsnik posted:Oh my, how do I get myself one of those wonderful jam man tags?? I think you need PMs/platinum, I asked and have yet to receive.
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doesn't she constitutionally speaking literally not have executive power right now? how is she supposed to engage in negotiations with sovereign nations?
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CoolCab posted:doesn't she constitutionally speaking literally not have executive power right now? how is she supposed to engage in negotiations with sovereign nations? The Queen has allowed her to form a government and she's assembled a shadow cabinet, so until someone says otherwise she is in charge. This whole debacle has really highlighted how odd our parliament is.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:08
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It's a bit silly how much of it is based on convention.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:12
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How is poo poo better than fanny? Old ladies say fanny.
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imagine how different things might be if fawkes had successfully blown the place up
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Jun 13, 2017 21:13
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Did we start a sweep of when we think the next election will be? Because I'm going with the 2nd November if we are
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Jun 13, 2017 21:13
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Already seeing people say that they should skip the 6 days of debate following the Queen speech. How about no.
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Skinty McEdger posted:The 26th as the Queens speech means it wouldn't be voted on until the 4th July at the earliest. Actually that's a good point given summer recess starts on the 20th. May really only has 1 more week to get this sorted or else she will lose her chance at it will go to Labour, or else we end up with no Government until September! Either a Queens speech is passed or a new election is called for August, they are the only options and time is running short for May's chance.
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How the hell did readers of the Daily 'actually vote EDL' Star end up pro-Labour? Is this the people who just buy it for the articles
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Just a reminder we have something to look forward to later this month  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMSCITZB7ws (edit, no embed permission) BobbyThompson fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Camrath posted:Now, my parents are to put it bluntly spectacularly wealthy (hugely successful retired accountant and freshly retired tax barrister, live in Grays Inn, own multiple properties here and abroad etc I live near Gray's Inn Rd and are your parents by any chance the couple that owns the two-story apartment with roof terrace above me Good story though, I've always wondered why so many people will vote for parties whose obvious goal is the dismantling of health care. I guess it usually doesn't occur to them that they & their loved ones might end up suffering? 
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Pochoclo posted:It's a bit silly how much of it is based on convention. Constitutional conventions are a great way to do things - together with the near-complete fusion of powers, it's often termed "the efficient secret of the British constitution". It means we've got most of the protection of a written constitution, combined with the flexibility to change things on the hoof if everybody's basically in agreement that it's the right thing to do. There's various nuclear options (abolishment of the Lords, refusal of Royal Assent, etc.) if things look like they're going tits-up, and the rest of the time everybody's locked in a permanent state of trying to get things done as efficiently as possible but without pissing anyone off enough to kick up a fuss. It is the most British of constitutions, based mostly on manners and doing things just because that's what you do (apart from when they're not). Gordon Brown had a great laugh at America's expense when the financial crisis hit, because George Bush had recently been arguing to him that the UK should enact an American style constitution, and - whereas the difficulty pushing things through to deal with it almost crippled America - we just sort of went "yes, that's a good idea, let's do this". e: example of the strength of governing by convention: in 1708, it was thought that there was a convention that the Crown would not refuse assent to any bill that was unanimously passed by both houses. On the morning the Scottish Militia Bill was due to receive assent, it was learned that there was a French war fleet heading for Scotland, who had historically been allied with the French against the English, and that passing the bill would most likely lead to the invasion of England. Luckily, everyone agreed that they had, in fact, misinterpreted the convention, which was that the Crown would only refuse assent on the advice of its ministers. Borrovan fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Hello, american here, I've been reading the thread for the past few days because UK politics are far less depressing in recent times than US politics. I don't need anything explained to me, I've read UKMT threads before so I am familiar with most of this stuff. First off congrats on the recent Labour gains, I'm glad to see some progress for the left somewhere in the world.
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