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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
just lmao if you dont think that, 50 years hence, some government memo is going to get declassified which shows how much pressure is being put on the press, local government, and maybe even the emergency services to keep their mouths shut

There's no way to put a full lid on this thing, but it's being dragged out and smushed down as much as possible.

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dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
https://twitter.com/Jack_Blanchard_/status/880033981118459904

winegums
Dec 21, 2012


I wonder how things are going on the alternative timeline where Angela Eagle became party leader.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Jeremy Corbyn is primegrime minister

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord

DancingShade posted:

In my experience every time I thought there was a conspiracy in an organisation to achieve X it always ended up being a combination of simple incompetence, shortsightedness and malicious selfishness.

Kind of ruined the X-files retrospectively to be honest. It's also pretty disappointing when you realize the people in charge are just that loving stupid and most large organisations are only limping along due to the goodwill and dogged determination of the lower echelons.

But we're only talking a cover up in the mainstream (old) media which are basically bought and paid for and that's an established fact. Social (new) media is not remotely covering this up and that's where the future lies.

Also: hence May and people like her disliking the information age because the old power structures are crumbling.

Judging by the amount of false/misleading/out of context information and companies working very hard to influence opinion on social media this doesn't reassure me.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...


If only this country had a real Opposition! :qq:

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

winegums posted:

I wonder how things are going on the alternative timeline where Angela Eagle became party leader.

The Eagle has gotten fried (eternal God-PM Bojo wins landslide) after hitting the metaphorical power line (inept handling of public disasters that makes May look competent), into which it has been launched by the strike of a nearby wind turbine blade (lovely liberalism that makes libdems look radical).

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Junior G-man posted:

Do they really think that this whole 'Corbyn = Venezuelan catastrophe' line is sticking? I've seen it everywhere and so far I don't know anybody who's impressed except for thumb people.

Venezuela in recent years is a favourite flogging horse for Tory types because aside from anything else, it's almost impossible to find anything approaching impartial coverage of events, let alone in English media. So they can say "lol socialist country failing" and it's very difficult to cite solid information about why that's wrong.

thehappyprince posted:

apparently facebook counts 3 seconds as a view tho so who knows how many people actually watched it

Rule of thumb is a facebook view is worth about a third of a youtube view.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Kegluneq posted:

If only this country had a real Opposition! :qq:

#LibDemFightback

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

josh04 posted:

Rule of thumb is a facebook view is worth about a third of a youtube view.
Good to see we'll be returning to non decimal currencies post-Brexit.

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

https://twitter.com/Jack_Blanchard_/status/880082033145499648

lmao

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

When Hammond deposes May, it's going to make what she did to Osborne look positively polite.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


It just all feels so strong and stable.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Junior G-man posted:

It just all feels so strong and stable.

Hey pal, only the strongest and stablest of governments operate like a two headed goat

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
lol little Johnny mercer has been on Twitter this morning saying that he supports ending the pay cap but won't vote for ending the pay cap because its just politics and the budget will definitely end the pay cap anyway and he's more interested in actually doing stuff for public workers

nothing since the u turn on the u turn

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


XMNN posted:

lol little Johnny mercer has been on Twitter this morning saying that he supports ending the pay cap but won't vote for ending the pay cap because its just politics and the budget will definitely end the pay cap anyway and he's more interested in actually doing stuff for public workers

nothing since the u turn on the u turn

Christ, I'm no interviewer and I could hammer him on that.
"You support the idea. And you're going to do it. But you won't agree to be bi-partisan and put it in the agenda for the next year's business? How can we trust you to do it?"

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Private Eye's piece on Grenfell is very good but grim reading. They lay out over two pages the history of the Tenant Management Organisation's attempts to ignore and deflect the residents concerns and the council's attempts to avoid engaging with it up including ignoring the recommendations of their own commissioned study into the situation in the block.

I have the feeling this is a warm up to a longer piece in the future.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
actually this was only half an hour ago lol
https://twitter.com/JohnnyMercerUK/status/880084108289986560

he's going to be interviewed on sky in ten minutes i think, could be v lol

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Skinty McEdger posted:

Private Eye's piece on Grenfell is very good but grim reading. They lay out over two pages the history of the Tenant Management Organisation's attempts to ignore and deflect the residents concerns and the council's attempts to avoid engaging with it up including ignoring the recommendations of their own commissioned study into the situation in the block.

I have the feeling this is a warm up to a longer piece in the future.

I like Private Eye because it seems actual investigative work is dead everywhere else

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Thanks Ants posted:

I like Private Eye because it seems actual investigative work is dead everywhere else

Buzzfeed of all places is actually rather good at doing investigative journalism.

And the Graun was but it's been very lacklustre on investigative journalism ever since armed guards raided their offices over the Snowden Files.

:thunk:

Guess they just found something better to do...

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Tesseraction posted:

Buzzfeed of all places is actually rather good at doing investigative journalism.

They're actually pretty ingenious and created a scheme where the sensationalist TOP 10 THINGS YOU THOUGHT WERE A THING articles that gets billions of views pay for the more serious investigative journalism, thereby appealing to both Facebook Mom Looking to Burn Time and Person Looking for Research Material demographics.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
I loving love Jeremy Corbyn. I love bad rear end old people who fight for justice.

If only Tony Benn had been alive to see this day. He would be super loving proud.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Tesseraction posted:

Buzzfeed of all places is actually rather good at doing investigative journalism.

And the Graun was but it's been very lacklustre on investigative journalism ever since armed guards raided their offices over the Snowden Files.

:thunk:

Guess they just found something better to do...

I forgot them but yes BuzzFeed long reads have been good

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

Neurolimal posted:

Hey pal, only the strongest and stablest of governments operate like a two headed goat

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Night10194 posted:

Get ready for a lot of 'Leftism leads straight to Venezuela!' in the future, because Venezuela is a tire fire right now.

Corbyn is nothing like Maduro, though, given he isn't a gibbering idiot.

It's used in these very forums by GBS keksters and has been since things started going bad under Chavez. We had a GBS shitlord just recently accusing us all of wanting to gulag everyone and turn the economy into "East germany". Ok so he got one out of two.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Regarde Aduck posted:

It's used in these very forums by GBS keksters and has been since things started going bad under Chavez. We had a GBS shitlord just recently accusing us all of wanting to gulag everyone and turn the economy into "East germany". Ok so he got one out of two.

I mean, over here, my libertarian brother screams Venezuela!!! any time anyone points out the lovely stuff the right does and the need for more social protections. It'll be their new favorite toy for years.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Broken Cog posted:

Civ4 Beyond the Sword is probably the best the series ever got. If you have to pick up one of them, that's what I'd recommend.

It's this.

VI is pretty good, better than V ever got, but the real good poo poo is IV and SMAC. They're the greatest the 4X genre has ever been.

On more current topics, lmao at Jezza having nearly as much influence over govt. policy as he would actually being in No. 10.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Night10194 posted:

I mean, over here, my libertarian brother screams Venezuela!!! any time anyone points out the lovely stuff the right does and the need for more social protections. It'll be their new favorite toy for years.

Libertarian? Just scream "Somalia!" In response. Sure, it doesn't make much sense but gently caress it neither does the "Venezuela!" thing either.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Mister Adequate posted:

It's this.

VI is pretty good, better than V ever got, but the real good poo poo is IV and SMAC. They're the greatest the 4X genre has ever been.

On more current topics, lmao at Jezza having nearly as much influence over govt. policy as he would actually being in No. 10.

look at this slander on galciv2

I hope they've got another few popular amendments to suggest, JC may as well start dictating all policy if they're going to cave and collapse into infighting within the hour.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

"Proportional increase in funding across the UK in line with NI deal" would be a funny one.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Not to bring nukechat back, but this would be the funniest thing ever: Attorney General's office considering prosecution of Theresa May for war crimes over comments about plans to use nuclear weapons.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

josh04 posted:

Venezuela in recent years is a favourite flogging horse for Tory types because aside from anything else, it's almost impossible to find anything approaching impartial coverage of events, let alone in English media. So they can say "lol socialist country failing" and it's very difficult to cite solid information about why that's wrong.

The reason it's hard to find stuff extolling the Venezuelan government is because Maduro is a shithead and really, really bad at socialism.

You can check out the Venezuela thread in this very forum for actual information about what's happening there.

Captain No-mates
Apr 3, 2010

My only worry with the amendments is that with how engaged people are with politics, all of the credit for ending the freeze will go to the Tories since it's their government.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Captain No-mates posted:

My only worry with the amendments is that with how engaged people are with politics, all of the credit for ending the freeze will go to the Tories since it's their government.

bullshit it will. if corbyn keeps calling shots he'll keep being credited for them, see also grenfell houses.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Gorn Myson posted:

Libertarian? Just scream "Somalia!" In response. Sure, it doesn't make much sense but gently caress it neither does the "Venezuela!" thing either.

Actually Somalia is also used for left-wingers, because if you don't want a strong government it automatically means you want to be a haven for maritime piracy.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

spectralent posted:

Actually Somalia is also used for left-wingers, because if you don't want a strong government it automatically means you want to be a haven for maritime piracy.

Who doesn't!?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Thanks Ants posted:

I like Private Eye because it seems actual investigative work is dead everywhere else
Yes. It's very expensive and people dislike paying for it, so there isn't much produced.

Zephro fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 28, 2017

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
I think the main thing to remember is that "being a tory" is not a category that selects for intelligence or internal consistency.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Zephro posted:

Yes. It's very expensive and people dislike paying for it, so there isn't much produced.

Investigative journalism or Private Eye?

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Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Investigative journalism or Private Eye?
Investigative journalism. People definitely like paying for Private Eye.

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