gradenko_2000 posted:

I'm personally stocking up on RPG books and boardgames so that I can continue entertaining myself even without electricity.

VirtualStranger posted:

Socialism would have much more appeal to the average American if most people understood it as "workers democratically governing their workplaces", rather than just "government welfare programs".

One of the best ways to appeal to the average person is to frame socialism as an extension of democracy into all of the various parts of their everyday lives that they have no control over.

rudatron posted:

Half of the voting population gets their news from Fox, a network that has to legally define itself as an entertainment network so that it cannot be held accountable for straight up bullshiting and deception.

The other half gets their news from like 5 massive conglomerates that, while not as actively ideologically, are very aware of their business and class interests.

What do you have?

rudatron posted:

But they don't, and none of us (or anyone else on the left) has the power to frame the discussion that way, so it's entirely academic to talk about 'well if people understood This to mean This'.

VirtualStranger posted:

Socialism would have much more appeal to the average American if most people understood it as "workers democratically governing their workplaces", rather than just "government welfare programs".

One of the best ways to appeal to the average person is to frame socialism as an extension of democracy into all of the various parts of their everyday lives that they have no control over.

rudatron posted:

He doesn't. That's the harsh truth. Bernie Sanders is an island in the vast ocean of US politics, the political equivalent of a long lost relic. His popularity is important, but ultimately transient and contingent.

VirtualStranger posted:

Socialism would have much more appeal to the average American if most people understood it as "workers democratically governing their workplaces", rather than just "government welfare programs".

One of the best ways to appeal to the average person is to frame socialism as an extension of democracy into all of the various parts of their everyday lives that they have no control over.

rudatron posted:

Half of the voting population gets their news from Fox, a network that has to legally define itself as an entertainment network so that it cannot be held accountable for straight up bullshiting and deception.

Jazerus posted:

SKULL.GIF posted:

No.

It's more like 20% of the population that actually gets their news from Fox News. You vastly, vastly, colossally overestimate how many people still watch TV nowadays. Much less cable TV.

SKULL.GIF posted:

The problem is that most people don't even really put that much faith in democracy itself, and our cultural narrative continually reinforces the idea that most people are loving drooling idiots.

Dirk Pitt posted:

I live in Sweden and it owns, compared to Oklahoma where I used to live.

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

kamala harris: candidate of the 1%

because that's what she polls.

SKULL.GIF posted:

No.

It's more like 20% of the population that actually gets their news from Fox News. You vastly, vastly, colossally overestimate how many people still watch TV nowadays. Much less cable TV.

steinrokkan posted:

Yeah, 50% of the population gets their information from InfoWars

Dirk Pitt posted:

Heh I’m still chuckling about Donna Brazile getting a job on the rules committee in Tom Perez’s DNC. The Pod Save Bros swore up and down things would change under Perez.

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/920827499067662336

I’ll never get this good

anime was right posted:

the banker sighed as he drew his kamala

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/ExistentialEnso/status/920886876285947904

lmao

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/ExistentialEnso/status/920886876285947904

lmao

Shear Modulus posted:

wait nobody actually thought that right? everyone knew the idea that perez wasn't the status quo was bullshit

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Remember how Concerned Citizen kept insisting that the DNC chair doesn't even matter anyway?

Concerned Citizen posted:

It doesn't.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

For capitalism to function at a high standard of living, to maintain a labor aristocracy - if you will -, requires the continued exploitation of the developing world by the developed world. If not through outright political colonialism and dominance, then through the dominance of financial instruments and capital exploitation.

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I’m not strictly pro-JDPON, but boy I get where they’re coming from

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Remember how Concerned Citizen kept insisting that the DNC chair doesn't even matter anyway?

Main Paineframe posted:

lol if u think Keith wouldn't have done the same thing

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Complaints began immediately after party officials saw a list of Perez' appointments to DNC committees and his roster of 75 "at-large" members, who are chosen by the chair.

The removal and demotion of a handful of veteran operatives stood out, as did what critics charge is the over-representation of Clinton-backed members on the Rules and Bylaws Committee, which helps set the terms for the party's presidential primary, though other Sanders and Ellison backers remain represented.

Those who have been pushed out include:

Ray Buckley, the New Hampshire Democratic chairman and longtime DNC official who ran against Perez for chair before backing Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., lost his spots on the Executive Committee and DNC Rules Committee;
James Zogby, the president of the Arab American Institute and prominent Sanders backer, is no longer co-chair of the Resolutions Committee and is off the Executive Committee, a spot he has held since 2001;
Alice Germond, the party’s longtime former secretary and a vocal Ellison backer, who was removed from her at-large appointment to the DNC; and
Barbra Casbar Siperstein, the first transgender member of the DNC who supported Ellison and Buckley, was tossed from the Executive Committee.

The moves exposed a rift in the partnership between Perez and his deputy chair, Ellison, who have publicly broadcast their "bromance" since Perez tapped the lawmaker for the post in a show of unity after their hard-fought race earlier this year for the party's chairmanship.

"I’m concerned about the optics, and I’m concerned about the impact," Zogby said of the changes. "I want to heal the wound of 2016."

"I understand the chair can do as he pleases, but still, it's all just very disappointing," Buckley said.

Germond has been on the DNC since the 1980s.

"It is quite unusual for a former party officer who has been serving on the DNC for forever to just be left out in the cold without even a call from the chairman," said Germond, who was a vocal Ellison backer for DNC chairman. "So I assumed it had something to do with myself support for Keith."

"I understand that I fought very hard for Keith Ellison. And I understand that to the winners go the spoils," she added.

The DNC denied any retaliation, saying the changes were an effort to diversify and freshen the party’s leadership and that all the party’s officers had a chance to offer input. They touted new additions like Marisa Richmond, a millennial black transgender activist, and the first DREAMer member, Ellie Perez, to point to the DNC's efforts at diversity...

Siperstein, the first transgender member of the DNC, said, "I can’t speak for Tom (Perez), but you talk about diversity — I’m extremely diverse: Jewish, veteran, transgender, lesbian, grandparent, small-business owner."

quote:

"I can’t speak for Tom (Perez), but you talk about diversity — I’m extremely diverse: Jewish, veteran, transgender, lesbian, grandparent, small-business owner."

quote:

Jewish, veteran, transgender, lesbian, grandparent, small-business owner.

quote:

small-business owner

Main Paineframe posted:

lol if u think Keith wouldn't have done the same thing

he showed how much he was willing to concede to the bad Dems when he endorsed that shithead Bittel - who, by the way, was also appointed to the Rules Committee under Perez