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A White Guy posted:1 year. I got extended a month to apply for a 'tent' camp program. I live in a classroom with 12 other dudes who snore super loving loud. I go on 8 day work 'spikes' and then I get 6 days off. Rereading over your thread, this kind of sounds like the lovely camp you send rear end in a top hat kids to on Dr Phil or something, only the kids are over 18.
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A White Guy posted:Microtrash. Satan almighty, microtrash. Microtrash is the task that happens when your C1 (your supervisor) can't think of any thing else to do. Walk around and find litter. Cigarette butts, bottle caps, anything will do. Pick it up and deposit it in a trash bag. Imagine doing that for 16 hours a day. Now you have an image of what we do if we get assigned 'Facilities' on a fire. That and traffic control. You ever stood in a parking lot for two weeks straight, 16 hours a day? I did that. If any of you goons went to the Thomas Fire in Ventura, CA, you and I met when I told you that you can't park your loving fire engine in loving overhead. Death to all firefighters. loving laughing my butt off
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As Nero Danced posted:Rereading over your thread, this kind of sounds like the lovely camp you send rear end in a top hat kids to on Dr Phil or something, only the kids are over 18. Kind of. It's modeled after the original CCC, the Civilian Conservation Corps, which was created as part of the New Deal to find like literally anything for the masses of out-of-work people to do. So it's gonna all be dogshit work, but you're happy it's there when one in five people in the country is out of work, and at the end of it you've like built a national park from scratch in an era where people are happy about that. (I still love our National Parks but man, I am under no illusions about how much people care anymore) The problem is the first CCC was a temporary program, that went away when it was no longer needed after the draft and the wartime jobs boom kicked off. The California version was made permanent in the 70's and what do you do to keep the lights on when there aren't huge masses of unemployed Americans skilled in dog work to fill the ranks???
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Redeye Flight posted:Kind of. It's modeled after the original CCC, the Civilian Conservation Corps, which was created as part of the New Deal to find like literally anything for the masses of out-of-work people to do. So it's gonna all be dogshit work, but you're happy it's there when one in five people in the country is out of work, and at the end of it you've like built a national park from scratch in an era where people are happy about that. This reminds me of a question a professor proposed about a year ago, did the CCC prepare likely draftees for military service? I have no higher point to make, just a question I don't remember the answer to. drat I should have taken better notes/improved my handwriting.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:You really, really can't find something better to do? The CCC and the work we do perfectly intersects with my degree (environmental science), and it's a great gateway into doing my masters. "You wanna do forestry?" "yeah, I spent like the last year dropping snags and doing thinning, and releasing trees etc etc." On the plus side, we're partly Americorps funded so I'm going to leave this place with about 14 grand in scholarship money, I'm about to finish my Emergency Medical Responder certification which both looks good and could be a career path in and of itself, I just got my feller 3 (license to fall trees), etc. Backcountry basically guarantees a job with the federal government. A non-compete puts you in line to get a job with the loving veterans. Even if you don't get a job there,a year in the CCC gives like 2 or 3 points on the California State Exams, plus literally everyone who works for State parks, Department of Water Resources, CalFish and Game, RCDs etc has someone who's worked for the CCC at some point. It's so loving good at introducing you to job opportunities in parks and managed wildlands. Promoting within this organization isn't such a bad gig either - Crew Leaders regularly land really good state-level jobs outside the CCC, being a C1 is a loving sweet gig, hell just promoting to Specialist (Chainsaw) has already got me interest from tree services who need experienced sawyers. Job opportunity-wise, it's absolutely fantastic for getting you in contact with the kind of people who absolutely want to hire motivated Otherwise I have no clue why anybody who doesn't want to pursue doing this kind of stuff for a beneficed, not-too-bad salaried living would do this. But we get them all the time. A girl I knew at my last center recently left the CCC to follow her dreams: producing for movies 
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Dawg you can get an EMT in less than a college semester. An EMR isn’t really even able to do any vitals unless an EMT gives direction. Edit, that’s said, after reading the rest of the post, if doing sawyer work, National parks/state parks work, or that kind of thing is what you want... then poo poo take the leg up. It just seems like a hell of a way to go for that leg up though. windshipper fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Jun 26, 2018 |
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windshipper posted:Dawg you can get an EMT in less than a college semester. An EMR isn’t really even able to do any vitals unless an EMT gives direction. The difference between me and an EMT is that I can't really do any interventions with drugs, knifes or otherwise.I can't shove a rectal thermometer up someone's rear end but I can take vitals so I'm not understanding what you mean. I'm vastly more limited than an EMT in virtually every respect but there's plenty of things that an EMR can do to someone. My understanding is that interventions involving drugs and knifes are off-limits.. For example, your girlfriend delivers your love-child in her apartment. Legally, I can clamp the umbilical cord but I can't cut it. Aside from that, your average person doesn't know the difference between an EMR, EMT, and a Paramedic. Aside from the obvious benefit of having some medical know-how anyway, I can take this stuff to Wildland EMT and get a job with CalFire sitting in an engine asleep while firefighters roll hose. My point about the CCC is that it, like the military, is a leg up. It's loving brutal, miserable at times, downright depressing occasionally, but it can also truly have positive outcomes. Edit, also today I learned that some states let EMRs administer naloxone. 
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I think he was saying if you want a difficult job there are easier ways to get one. Conversely, when the zombie apocalypse happens, you are very proficient with a chainsaw, which will be in high demand.
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As Nero Danced posted:This reminds me of a question a professor proposed about a year ago, did the CCC prepare likely draftees for military service? I have no higher point to make, just a question I don't remember the answer to. drat I should have taken better notes/improved my handwriting. I don't know offhand, but I doubt that was the original intention. Certainly former CCC members would have great physical characteristics from all the outdoor work, and be used to orders and a somewhat regimented life, but as I recall, the expansion of the standing army let alone any draft preparations didn't happen until quite after the New Deal. I could, of course, be missing something--I don't have cites available to support that position. But that's what my on-hand knowledge says.
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Redeye Flight posted:I don't know offhand, but I doubt that was the original intention. Certainly former CCC members would have great physical characteristics from all the outdoor work, and be used to orders and a somewhat regimented life, but as I recall, the expansion of the standing army let alone any draft preparations didn't happen until quite after the New Deal. Yeah, the more I think about it I agree with you, I think any crossover was a bit of a happy accident., I think the CCCs started quite a while before preparing for military service would have been intentional, if anything a regimented lifestyle (read: knee deep in the suck) just meshes well with a bureaucratic system.
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loving LOL at CCC spending time police calling and yelling at people for parking wrong. You are pretty much an MP with better healthcare. Also, that slogan of 'it sucks!' would have suckered in 18 yo Bulletsponge like it was free pizza at fat camp. That poo poo attracts broken people who are trying to get away from dumb poo poo. I would have jumped in head first, had it existed around me and the military was an option. I can get the failure rate though- I'm pretty sure if we made the military completely voluntary, you'd dudes dropping like it's cool.
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Nice and hot piss posted:https://ccc.ca.gov/ except the CCC actually does useful work
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A White Guy posted:The difference between me and an EMT is that I can't really do any interventions with drugs, knifes or otherwise.I can't shove a rectal thermometer up someone's rear end but I can take vitals so I'm not understanding what you mean. I'm vastly more limited than an EMT in virtually every respect but there's plenty of things that an EMR can do to someone. My understanding is that interventions involving drugs and knifes are off-limits.. For example, your girlfriend delivers your love-child in her apartment. Legally, I can clamp the umbilical cord but I can't cut it. As Nero Danced posted:I think he was saying if you want a difficult job there are easier ways to get one. Conversely, when the zombie apocalypse happens, you are very proficient with a chainsaw, which will be in high demand. In addition, you can't get a job with an EMR outside of the CCC, basically. So you're right, you can take this and get a wildland EMT certification and go to CalFire... Or you could get an EMT certification without doing the CCC and do the same thing. Or be an EMT almost literally anywhere else in the country, for less effort. And what the average person knows about EMR vs EMT vs Paramedic is... That's like telling me the price of tea in china, dawg. It's got nothing to do with anything. Besides, you legally cannot staff an ambulance with two EMRs. You must have one EMT on that ambulance to do patient care. You can't transport. I'm not saying I'm some shithot or you're so low for being an EMR, I'm saying that you could have had a higher certification - for whatever that means - for only 20-60 hours more classroom time, that would open up jobs for you. EMTs are a dime a dozen, look better to have as staffing rigs, allow you to have people switching off doing transports instead of one person constantly doing patient care... Private ambulance and fire districts don't look to EMRs to do staffing. More often than not, if someone is an EMR in one of those organizations, they're a hold over from way back when who no one has made go and get an EMT. Or they're a volunteer. windshipper fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jun 26, 2018 |
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There are librarians who administer narcan. It made zero sense that police were the only ones initially allowed to administer it. To add to what everyone else has said: there are plenty of volunteer squads and even private companies that will pay for your EMT-B license.
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Vengarr posted:There are librarians who administer narcan. It made zero sense that police were the only ones initially allowed to administer it. poo poo, in exchange for becoming a volunteer way back when, I got my firefighter 1, hazmat ops, and EMT paid for. Edit: poo poo, and that’s super, super common, too. Departments often are happy to do that in exchange for a year or two of being an active volunteer windshipper fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jun 27, 2018 |
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Let's see you do a year in the CCC if you're that tough then mister
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Slavic Crime Yacht posted:Let's see you do a year in the CCC if you're that tough then mister I'm not that tough, but on the flip side... I'm also not in the CCC.
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Idk if dude likes it who am I to judge, but hell I was in the army for 12 years so obviously I'm a dummy
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At least he isnt vahaklya.
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Like I said before, if he likes it, if it works for him, that's awesome. But, what he's said about what it's done for him skills wise, like, the sawyer thing is about it. If that transitions him into work he loves in the parks and all, that's awesome. But if he's bragging about the EMR cert thing and the cushy career it will give him, then... how it works isn't how he thinks it works.
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Viva Miriya posted:At least he isnt vahaklya. Can’t wait for the next chapter of that saga 😅
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Guy seems like he was in a bad place and now he got some poo poo done and he's out in the fresh air. If you want to give him advice going forward fine, but let's not poo poo in his cornflakes.
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Smiling Jack posted:Guy seems like he was in a bad place and now he got some poo poo done and he's out in the fresh air. If you want to give him advice going forward fine, but let's not poo poo in his cornflakes. You are right. I’m being an rear end in a top hat, and for that I apologize.
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I'm under no illusion that an EMR cert will lead to a job. I hqve no interest in pursuing a career in the medical field. Its knowhow, it looks good to those who don't know better, and it cost me not a dime.  Onto idiot stories: One day, we had a sawyer cutting off cowboy killers. Cowboy killers are branches that get jammed into the ground and break off when a tree falls. It leaves a sharp spike sticking out of the ground, which is a tripping and impalement hazard. So, dude has a small Stihl saw and is on his knees chopping this things off. At some point, he gets lazy and just sits down, resting the engine on his inner thigh. At lunch, he looks down at his pants and notices a line of slight tearing that is not even 2 centimeters away from his dick. The chain was running so close to his jimmies that it contacted his pants. Dude almost castrated himself with a chainsaw. Now he's a crew leader,coincidentally on the same crew and at the same center as where that jailrape happened.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Good job there SC NG. seems fine
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Excuse me it’s clearly an enlisted’s fault for not following orders
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Internet Wizard posted:Excuse me it’s clearly an enlisted’s fault for not following orders The buck stops.....there. No not there I mean further back. Yeah right about there.
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PFC Dipshit, the Assistant Armorer will end up with ultimate responsibility. SGT Shitheel, the Armorer, will toss the PFC under those wheels, and will get an Art. 15. The CO will get relieved, a letter of reprimand, and a transfer to BN, where in six months he'll make Major.
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I’ll admit, I read that as “officers fired” at first and I was not even surprised.
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movax posted:I’ll admit, I read that as “officers fired” at first and I was not even surprised. 
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Realising you are on the wrong path in life and deliberately breaking the cycle by doing some extremely strenuous and uncomfortable outdoors work for over a year, bettering yourself and your character while gaining life skills and discipline that will stand you in good stead the rest of your life? Sounds alright to me. You did well, AWG.
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Personally, I find that story heartwarming. It's like, Jr. Enlisted has metastasized out of simply being a service member and into the spouse of one, and there's strippers involved in the family unit, and how many more posts until we discover the husband also financed a Veloster with the best trim package against his wife's name?
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